Kaetlyn Osmond - Canada's hope

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  1. manhn

    manhn Well-Known Member

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    Oh no! She's the Canadian lady of the moment! She'll make an impact on the international scene! What high expectations!
     
  2. love_skate2011

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  3. Rock2

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    Agreed. The tough part is that she will likely win nationals and will also be the only lady qualified to go to worlds...in Canada, no less. Automatically thrust in the spotlight so in some ways it's out of Slipchuk's hands. Furthermore, by not letting her spend another year in Juniors it seems that promoting her and pushing her towards repping us in Sochi has become the plan before the summer started. So I'm slightly baffled by what his words meant.

    So the best they can do is shield her from the pressure of qualifying two for Sochi. Let her finalize the programs that make her feel comfortable vs pushing her to score higher or achieve a certain result.

    I had a thought watching her win in Windsor. Joannie would no longer be a lock to win nationals next year if she returns, especially when you imagine what Osmond will be bringing to the table in 15 months. Is Osmond's emergence the deciding factor that will cause Joannie to formalize her retirement?
     
  4. Rock2

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    Given that GP Final is in Sochi and Osmond has a great shot at going in 2014, I wonder to what extent SC can find her a slot in another GP, to give her a chance to skate in the Olympic venue in the GP final....?
     
  5. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    spikydurian Well-Known Member

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    If Osmond qualifies to represent Canada in Sochi, the experience will be invaluable for 2018 even though she may not have the chance or be ready to podium in 2014, IMO.
     
  7. Ziggy

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    Please. Way more interesting than Joannie could dream of being. :p

    The scandal is their FS PCS being almost equal.

    Osmond certainly does not have good basics. She skates with rounded shoulders and "no neck", her back is a bit stiff and her basic skating is not very good. Her basics aren't terrible but there's plenty of work to be done in those areas.

    I could understand her being marked higher than Suzuki on TR but that's it. Maybe CH as well but that's debatable.

    Czisny will almost surely withdraw from NHK and ISU is surely gonna pressure JSF to invite Osmond.

    Placing top 10 at a JGP event and top 10 at Junior Worlds is hardly obscure.

    Junior Ladies can have a higher standard of skating than Seniors.
     
  8. victoriaheidi

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    At this point, I have a feeling she'd get a spot if one opened...then again, look at how many times Mirai's been passed over.
     
  9. love_skate2011

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    my only thing that I don't like about Osmond's skating is she skates like a hunchback, relies on her back too much like a speed skater
    taht's why she powers through so much jumps
     
  10. Really

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    It's interesting to read comments saying that SC should be careful with Osmond and not push her too hard, yet several years ago, when Phaneuf unexpectedly won Canadian nationals at a young age, there was great consternation at the decision to *not* send her to Worlds.

    (and no, Rock...I'm not picking on you -- your post just happened to mention the (past) possibility of leaving Osmond in juniors for another year)
     
  11. Sylvia

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    So Sale/Pelletier had been to one worlds before the canadian worlds they won and placed 4th in 2000. But Osmond also I think has the potential to be top 6 or greater. Usually a big problem is that if even if you have the jumps you don have he pcs. Osmond has the pcs immediately and just needs the jumps to be there. That is unusual. Though you had that with Yuna and Mao.
     
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  13. Rock2

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    Really? Czisny posted on FB only a few days ago that she was going. But yeah she may still technically be iffy.

    I have to think JSF would naturally pick Osmond but SC would also likely step up and cash in a favor with them as well to get the second assignment. Mind you, she's injury prone, so throwing her into a full season with the possibility of two more events if she makes the GPF, followed by nats, 4CC, Worlds, would probably wear her out. I'm sure SC really wouldn't see it as a bad thing if she didn't get another assignment.
     
  14. love_skate2011

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    I don't think there are any spots open, but I hope if there is one that spot goes to Mirai, she is in waiiting que for a while now
     
  15. smarts1

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    I don't think Osmond will receive PCS marks even close to what she received in Skate Canada. I was :confused: at what the judges were giving her considering she really was an unknown skater until even just this season when she won Nebelhorn. As for her jumping technique, her flip and lutz have a strange lean the air and I doubt under immense pressure she'll be able to stand up on them (well she didn't stand up on the lutz in Skate Canada anyway).
     
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    That would be an interesting Vbet, which I think you would lose.
     
  17. mag

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    I didn't realize there was a PCS category where the mark is based on how well known the skater is ;)
     
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    I agree. Never in the world of figure skating has a skater's marks been bumped up because of that skater's reputation. :p
     
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  20. Bournekraatzfan

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    Congratulations on a great set of performances, Kaetlyn! What a debut! I really enjoyed watching her, and look forward to seeing her skating develop. I love her energy. and congrats to her coach, Ravi Walia, as well. I used to like him when he skated singles, and it is so great to see him doing so well as a coach:)

    ITA. and, imo, this isn't the first time Akiko was underscored. I just don't know what she has to do to get the PCS marks (I feel) she deserves. congrats to her on a gorgeous LP, though. I love think it could become a signature piece for her.

    Thanks for the link to the EX, Sugar!
     
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  21. clarie

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    I am over the moon on this girl's skating. She skates big, and with so much confidence. I think her exhibition piece is charming and in the aftermath of SC, so appropriate :).
     
  22. Flora

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    Just saw her on the local news. They were at the airport to greet her return to Edmonton. She`s hoping for another Grand Prix and if not, she`s focusing on the Challenge event in Saskatchewan. And she`s taking a week off from skating. She seems grounded and focused.
     
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  23. spikydurian

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    This young lady will go places given time.
     
  24. julieann

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    I agree! I just watch the ladies and I am so happy for her. I love her skating and hope she continues to do very well!
     
  25. mag

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    Of course they aren't Peter, what ever could you be thinking? :D

    While I realize that it could be different posters, I find it funny that "we" complain about well known skaters being held up and then "we" turn around and say that an unknown skater shouldn't get high PCS because they aren't well known or established. In general I find that we tend to agree with the PCS marks when skaters we like do well, and disagree with the PCS marks when skaters we don't really like beat our favourites. Of course this doesn't apply to everyone, but it does happen. There was nothing in the original post I quoted about why KO's PCS were too high other than the fact that she was relatively unknown.
     
  26. The Accordion

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    Also - people complain about the PCS marks not being separated - but when KO gets high marks for Performance and Interpretation at Skate Canada people cry out that she is not in the same league as Suzuki and that her marks are laughable.
    This even though Akiko's SS marks were higher and even though at least some people who saw them live said KO skated much bigger, faster and projected / sold the program better.
     
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  27. sk8ingcoach

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    I agree that KO had good performance/execution and interpretation. But Suzuki should have had a further lead in skating skills, transitions and choreography.
     
  28. Emdee

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    I read somewhere that Polina S will not be at NHK. will Kaetlyn now have a chance in Japan? Or will this spot be filled by someone else.

    Just speculation only at this time.
     
  29. hohoho

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    Osmond is in the group of 5 for the first alternates. Not sure if Shelpen was a host pick or an ISU assignment. Would Japan really want Osmond to go there after beating two of their skaters at SC? My bet is on Nagasu from US to get selected. But there is still the chance that Czisny may not go. Would like to see Osmond get a chance at GPF and show that her scores at SC were not inflated.
     
  30. pinky166

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    Oh dear I hope Polina is not seriously injured. She was visibly limping at SC and her trainwreck performances surely had to have been attributable, at least somewhat, to a physical ailment of sorts. If Alissa also withdraws maybe Mirai and Kaitlyn will get to go!