Kaetlyn Osmond - Canada's hope

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  1. professordeb

    professordeb Well-Known Member

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    I loved what I saw of Daleman at Canadians. I didn't think she was quite there in terms of what Kaetlyn showed in her programs, but I don't think she's too far behind. She (Daleman) seems to have the ability to shake off when she falls on a jump and IIRC, she was whipping off 3-3s in practice -- and if I'm not recalling that correctly, anyone who WAS at Canadians can feel free to correct me. I was really pleased with what I saw of the younger ladies at that competition and if they master the puberty monster, I can see Kaetlyn being challenged for that top spot next year. For me, though, KO had it in spades! When it was time to compete, she just shone and you could tell she was enjoying her moment in the spotlight. Wasn't quite the same when it was time for the Free at World's but then -- for me at least -- it was about getting her feet wet in that kind of competition.

    What was difficult to watch was LaCoste. She would start her program with such fire and then after a mistake (or two) I could swear I'd see the fight almost gone out of her. I'm glad she had the chance to attend World's last year as I believe it will be the last time she competes at that level. There just seems like a lot of talent in the younger ladies.

    Oh, can I just say again how thrilled and proud I am for how well Kaetlyn did skate. I think she did our nation proud.
     
  2. rvi5

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    It depends on what was on her mind at the time. Was she more immediately concerned about not making the top 10, or not being dead last by a significant gap within that final group (considering who she was skating with)? If the latter, it may have been better if other newbies had been there to share the load. However, she found herself alone. Could she have been thinking about closing the score gap? When you want something badly enough that you begin to worry, that is when you will be more likely to make mistakes.

    Clearly something was on her mind during the warm-up. She didn't have her usual big smile when the audience cheered as she stepped onto the ice, or after her name had been announced.

    In either case, she did well enough. If I am not mistaken, her skate was more-or-less how she normally performs that LP, with the exception of one additional fall.
     
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  3. blueglass

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    I always notice a skater's face when they're in their starting position - and to me she did look quite tense. I'm no competitor so I don't know what she might have been thinking, but if she wasn't intimidated by the presense of Yuna, Mao and Carolina - figure skating royalty - then she can't have a single nerve in her body.
     
  4. JasperBoy

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    Exactly. Skating with three world champions? Perhaps a bit intimidating. She did well.
     
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  5. marii

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    You never know. Daleman (15) and Chartrand (16) are young and have lots of potential. As with Osmond, anything can happen to a skater...like gaining weight for example, motivation or any physical changes in the body and vuala, jumps and overall performance are not as before. Osmond wasn't long enough around yet.
     
  6. professordeb

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    I think I've read *somewhere* that Osmond has pretty much "blossomed" into her adult body so I don't think there would be any of the puberty monster changes going on with her.
     
  7. euterpe

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    I'd just like to see Osmond with more flattering costumes next season. Both the SP and FS costumes were too busy and made her look chunky through the middle, which she surely is not.
     
  8. pinky166

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    I agree, I'm always, well I don't want to say surprised, but just really notice how different she looks in interviews and pictures of her in practice clothes. She's fairly broad through the shoulders, but is very fit and trim. In practice clothes, you can see why she's such a terrific jumper, lean with very defined muscles. But that doesn't come out in her costumes. The SP dress wasn't so bad but the FS one was really not flattering, it did make her look thick and she is definitely not at all! I think she could rock a unitard personally, or just a dress with less of an open back would be better. She's a beautiful girl and her dark coloring I think could also be better showcased in different colors of costumes, like fuschia or turquoise.
     
  9. clarie

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    I liked her SP dress but not the Lp dress. I also think she would "rock a unitard" if the program called for it.
     
  10. algonquin

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    A little off topic, how much does a dress cost (approx) for an elite level skater?
     
  11. Proustable

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    Marina Zoueva commented that Tessa Virtue's dresses could cost around two thousand dollars (this was during the Olympic season). I presume that was on the very high end, though.
     
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    It really varies a lot and there certainly is in upper limit. Depending on the theme of the program a dress could cost as little as $350. IMHO, generally clean lines are more effective. You can go all out with rhinestones provided you have a clear idea when you start and stick with a few sizes and or colours. Custom dresses dripping in beadwork and stones can run upwards of $1000. I don't think Kaetlyn's LP dress could have been that expensive. I agree with those who say the cut wasn't terribly flattering.
     
  14. shutterbug

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    Probably something along the lines of “don’t suck, don’t suck, don’t suck”? :lol: Seriously though, it was a tough situation to find herself in, not just because she was skating with “royalty”, but also because she knew that even skated perfectly her program likely didn’t have enough content to maintain her position, much less make a run for the podium. It was designed to keep her in the top 10, not get her a medal. The two falls cost her somewhere around 10 points, which still would have only have put her in 6th or 7th. When the program was being developed at the beginning of the season, her 3lutz had only been consistent for a few months. Who knew at that time she’d end up in the final group at Worlds? I was pleased to see that she had the presence of mind to add the two 2toes to the 2A after the fall on the 3toe – shows she can think on her feet.

    Very happy to see Gabby added as the 2nd woman at WTT. :) Quite a little dynamo that one. The experience will no doubt be invaluable for her. She struggled with the 3flip and 3lutz a little at Canadians, but nailed both at Jr. Worlds, so she’s coming along nicely. Even though she’s only 15, she looks fully developed. I can’t see her growing much more. Alaine turned 17 this week, so isn’t likely to grow much more either. Interestingly, both Gabby & Alaine did clean 3lutz’s in their FP’s at Canadians last year (Alaine did 2 in fact), whereas Kaetlyn didn’t even attempt one. Crazy how different the rate of development can be during the teen years!

    Kaetlyn’s SP dress was fine (once they got rid of the silver bra :yikes:), but IA that her FP dress was not particularly flattering. It wasn’t so much the cut, but the placement of the nude fabric cut out in the waist made her look thick through the middle.
     
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  15. shine

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    Is it just me or does she remind anyone of Sasha Cohen in this program? :) In looks/facial expression but particularly in the way she carries her neck and back - super straight!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxTzdCUWFRY
     
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  16. blueglass

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    I saw Osmond for the first time at Canadians. She doesn't have broad shoulders or broad anything for that matter. It's all to do with the camera angles that for the most part are all focused at the girl's hip level. I'm not a fan of the fussiness of most female costumes, but I did think her short program costume suited her on-ice personality.
     
  17. marii

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    Professordeb,
    Im not speaking of puberty. Some women have tendency gaining weight more, than others it's natural for woman's body to gain weight. I'm saying anything can happen, look at Rachel Flatt and what happened to her. I like Osmond and hope he does well, but what I don't like is to put all hopes in one basket, excluding other skater. Give her a bit more time to proof herself and not put so much pressure on her shoulders.
     
  18. Proustable

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    Osmond reminds me a bit of Stephanie Rosenthal in terms of her performance qualities.
     
  19. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Épaulement!!!

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    I really think she should ditch her open backed dresses. It makes her torso look really wide. I see some Cohenesque qualities in the way she used her hands and arms in this program. I really like her because she is a performer and a dancer besides being an excellent skater.
     
  20. professordeb

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    Ahhh, that's what you meant, thanks for clearing it up. Usually when posters here speak about women and their bodies, it seems to be in the context of her not yet in her "adult" body -- hence my reference to the puberty monster.

    Regarding Rachel Flatt, I'm not aware of issues that she has had regarding her body. Perhaps because I don't follow women's skating as closely as I have other disciplines.

    I totally agree the Kaetlyn needs time and space to prove herself. I, like many others, are so pleased to see her have such a breakout season. There's also a couple of other young Canadian women who are in their teens who I think may give Kaetlyn a run for the Canadian championships next season. I hope for her to do well -- for her sake, not for mine. I've enjoyed watching her this season. It feels like there is hope for Canadian ladies skating, not just because of Kaetlyn, but because she is leading the charge. As a skating fan, it has been difficult to watch our Canadian ladies do decently at home, but when they go out onto the international stage, it seems to head south. I am believing and hoping that Kaetlyn is just the first of many that we'll see over the next few years. What is going to be interesting -- is watching all these "youngsters" from various countries as they try to step up to the plate and onto the podium. I'm looking forward to it.
     
  21. clarie

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  22. shine

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    I totally saw it too! In fact, that's the first skater she reminded me of when I saw her skate for the first time this season! Same verve, musicality and joy!
     
  23. quartz

    quartz Far beyond these castle walls

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    Would love to see Kaetlyn tackle something more off the beaten track musically. It seems like most people tend to agree she has great musicality and performance skills and a natural presence on the ice. She could do some really interesting programs, and I hope her coach and choreographer try something unique with her.
     
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    She is good but I think she needs to improve on technical and artistic to reach the top. Not just one. She doesnt have enough of either yet.
     
  25. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Sasha

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    Right now Kaetlyn is not even on par with the other 3 young ladies - Liza, Adelina and Gracie. Unless she learns to land difficult jumps she is not going to make it to the top. She clearly has the time to learn, however. IMO she is being crowned way too early. Nobody knows how much she will develop.
     
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    I think she is just as good as all of them. I don't understand what the hype is about Gracie. What has she done to "be on par with the others you mention?"
     
  27. danafan

    danafan Canadian ladies über

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    What? Osmond has beaten all three of them in international competition, and the first two she has beaten twice this year. I don't think this statement is fair at all.
     
  28. Mayra

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    Nobody knows how any of these girls are going to develop. They are all young but inconsistent talent with a lot of potential. Your are also about two months too late with this. Nobody is crowning Kaetlyn as anything. :confused:

    As for Kaetlyn not being on par with the other three you mentioned, the results at Worlds prove otherwise.
     
  29. Proustable

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    She's competed against Elizaveta twice. Won both competitions.

    She's competed against Adelina three times. Won two competitions.

    She's competed against Gracie twice. Won once.

    Just sayin'
     
  30. Alixana

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    Kaetlyn needs to include her 3Z in competition and work on a more difficult 3/3 combo so that she's more even technically with the other skaters mentioned. But this year Kaetlyn was more consistent than the other 3 IMO and hence the success. All in all, great senior debut!
     
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