Kaetlyn Osmond - Canada's hope

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Emdee, Sep 29, 2012.

  1. Cyn

    Cyn Well-Known Member

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    Wheeeeeee!!!! Congratulations to Kaetlyn, Canada's new Ladies Figure Skating Champion!! :cheer2: :glamor: :cheer2:

    I posted this in the PBP thread, but I think that her FS is, across all disciplines, by far the best Carmen of the season :swoon:.
     
  2. 4rkidz

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    Well I must admit to feeling sorry for Amelie ending up 4th as she is such a good skater.. but the reality is Canada's top skaters not only can do all the triples.. but triple-triple too's.. we are going to have to find another group of skaters to pick on..I think the days of jokes about Canadian women might have concluded.. but I do have another group.. perhaps I might suggest the upcoming junior men in Canada ;)
     
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  3. rvi5

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    Between the events, I was reading the Toronto Star newspaper to kill time. Surprisingly, there was a two page spread dedicated to the competition and skaters. It included a large photo of Kaetlyn performing a Biellmann. The article discussed how the new kids are not afraid to take the risks, and are eager to try the triple-triples. Apparently Chartrand became the first Canadian lady to land a triple lutz-triple toe during her short program.
     
  4. algonquin

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    During Kaetlyn's LP, I watched Ravi Walia a little bit. He seemed to be very calm and that might help Kaetlyn as she goes into the bigger competitions. I also watched Orser and he is anything but calm.
     
  5. manhn

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    I thought Karen Preston did a 3/3, no?
     
  6. stevlin

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    i can't find Kaetlyn's free program on you tube. Is it on daily motion or any other place?
     
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  8. TheIronLady

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    Why are Canadians writing about how Osmond was better better than Yu Na ever has been? Don't you know this makes people not take Kaetlyn seriously? She practically did a cannonball into the ice in her FS.
     
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  9. Alixana

    Alixana Definitely NOT a sonogram

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    There are always a few enthusiastic people. I think the balance of the thread says that people love her improvement over last year and hope she keeps improving (and stays healthy) but also expect a few bumps along the way.
     
  10. algonquin

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    Are you serious? If yes, please copy any posts that said that. If not, please calm down. One poster said that Osmond might be Canada's best since Barbara Ann Scott and to which other posters replied that that was over top.
     
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  11. michiruwater

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    Uh, a few posts up Cyn quoted her previous post where she states that she finds Osmond to be more enjoyable, entertaining, and better at performing/executing than Yu Na ever has been. Post #269, to be specific.
     
  12. algonquin

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    Thanks, but that is Cyn's opinion & is entitled to it. What bothers me is that all Canadians are lumped together & then bashed.
     
  13. flowerpower

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    I doubt that Cyn is a Canadian. Her sig line quotes the Governor of Ohio.
     
  14. manhn

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    Uh, Cyn's not Canadian.
     
  15. algonquin

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    Huh!

    This post from Vash01 is worthly enough to be repeated:

     
  16. stevlin

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    I think that Kaetlyn's layback spin is much better than YuNa's layback. I hate when the leg that's off the ice is super bent. Dick Button would say "ugly position". lol/// love Mr. Button
     
  17. TheIronLady

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    Maybe she is an Ohioan trying to sabotage Canada's new star with OTT praise! ;)

    Kaetlyn has real performing ability, so I hope people let her develop and do not start calling her Jesus. Her Carmen is very entertaining yes. She needs the experience of regular competition with real rivals, and hopefully she will get cleaner and become a force in the game.
     
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  18. TheIronLady

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    I agree with you 200%.
     
  19. algonquin

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    I agree with you. Putting things into context, a lot of her OTT praise might be coming for posters who suffered through Canadian ladies in the mid to late 90's and into the early 2000s. I don't know all the posters who are giving the OTT praise, so I can't say for sure. Suffered, however, is the only word that can adequately describe following Canadian ladies during those times.

    ETA - I was at Canadians for Keatlyn free skate and I don't think that this is OTT praise to say that she has charisma. That alone will not get her onto the top of podiums, but it might get her sponsors.
     
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  20. Seerek

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    Karen Preston might have been given credit with the first triple-triple sequence or series, but I believe the first Canadian woman to do a ratified triple-triple combination would have been Joannie Rochette (2004).

    Interestingly, I wouldn't be surprised if Kaetlyn at least flirts with a 3 flip - 3 toe next year - she's lucky those are her two best triples and can be used in a combination...
     
  21. rvi5

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    What was the 3/3 Karen performed? Obviously it couldn't be the 3lutz/3toe if Chartrand was credited for it.
     
  22. hohoho

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    At Nationals Kaetlyn was doing a beautiful 3Lz/3T in practice. She can also do a 3F/3T. I think we will see different programs next year. she has also been doing 3L in practice. I believe at Skate Detroit and Wildrose she was attempting 3Lz/3T and 3F in her short programs.

    I think her team are playing it safe this year and getting into the international scene.
     
  23. walei

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    What I like most about Kaetlyn that I rarely see from other skaters even the top champs is how relaxed and genuinely happy she looks when she takes the ice. One of the very important trait for a good performer is for him or her to let the audience feel relaxed and confident that this is going to be a good performance. Kaetlyn has this trait in spades!
     
  24. Cyn

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    Damn, I wanted to be an honorary Canadian :drama: :fragile:

    ;)

    :rofl:

    I'm from the Deep South (Georgia, to be specific)

    :eek: I guess I need to change my siggy line now that the election is over :duh:.

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    I do stand by my post regarding my preference of Kaetlyn's skating to YuNa's.

    Kim has fabulous jumps and great speed across the ice, but her free leg position in her layback spin sucks, and she wouldn't know what a toe-point was if it bit her on the ass. I also don't see a whole lot of emotion or charisma from her during her programs.

    Kaetlyn has the potential to have it all -- jumps, interpretation, skating skills, great body lines and the ability to "finish" her positions, and oodles of charisma.

    When I compare YuNa when she debuted in the senior ranks to Osmond's debut this year, it isn't even close -- I'm far more impressed with the latter and her potential than I ever was with the former. FTR, I'm not a Mao ├╝ber/YuNa detractor in any way, shape, or form; I'm a fan of the sport (and artistry) of skating, and between Skate Canada and last weeks Cdn Nats, Kaetlyn is a breath of fresh air with enormous talent.
     
  25. Cyn

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    duplicate post....sorry about that :eek:
     
  26. TheIronLady

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    I am confused. Has a Canadian never performed a triple-triple combination at nationals? LOL
     
  27. honey

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    Rochette did one in '05, but I can't recall anyone else who did prior to last year. Watt and Robinson made attempts but they weren't rotated.
     
  28. shine

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    Yeah, and exactly what is wrong with that? She didn't say Kaetlyn is a BETTER skater than Yuna. All she seems to be saying is that she enjoys her more and thinks her performance/execution is better. I don't see how that is so unfathomable?

    And speaking for myself, I really couldn't care less about which country which skater is from and naturally don't give a damn about Osmond being Canadian or Antarctician. I've never been particularly patriotic when it comes to figure skating. I've been singing praises of Osmond's skating simply because IMO she is that good, especially for her age.
     
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  29. TheIronLady

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    Her interpretation of music is not subtle like Mao, Yu Na, Rochette, or Costner, but that can be improved. I think she is more exciting to watch than Wagner, Agnes or Gracie Gold (none of whom have enough ooomph or charisma), but she will need to become a more consistent jumper. She reminds me of Tonya Harding with her legs and upper body and high kick choreography.
     
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  30. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    Well I don't agree.

    Osmond didn't exactly show much back bend in any of her layback variations. Her positions overall are more refined and have prettier lines yes, but I would think back bend is ultimately the most important feature in a layback position yes?

    At her best, Kim spins a much faster layback.