Johnny Weir as commentator at US Nationals

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by n*ice mom, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. soxxy

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    This is exactly how I feel. I want to write him a fan letter. I think he even made Tonia better....not so boring.
  2. luenatic

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  3. Carolla5501

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    I am sorry, but

    1. I don't care about the "good use of purple in his costume"
    2. I don't care about the "hairdo"
    3. I don't care about the eyebrows.....


    What he's teaching is that "the look" is just as important as the skate (And if that were ACTUALLY true and his view counted he would have that Gold Medal!)


    Until he quits acting like a "fashion commentator" in addition to a skating commentator BOO!
  4. cameron

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    I loved Weir's commentating. I agree that it was a bit too much at first and a bit disjointed...as if he ran to get there on time and was nervous and out of breath (which may have been part of it actually). And, I can see a little less emphasis on fashion and hair; and NONE Of it during a skate. But, he was so good at calling and explaining elements; so good at comparing and contrasting; so informed about about each skater and other things - like coaches and music. So good at pronouncing names. Seriously, I hope IN and NBC and I don't know who else make him full time. I know he wants to compete, but my gosh, he is a great commentator.

    If he could hold back just a little more on detail during a skate - especially when it is a top skater - so we could get into and enjoy the program too, that would be great. But, best element caller and quality explainer; best COP commentator; best replay and wam up commentator I have ever heard. And, I love Button; in a different way love PJ Kwong too. But Weir is hands down fabulous and knowledgeable about this sport and its judging. And really he was so supportive of each skater and style too. That surprised and pleased me.

    I agree that after they got used to each other, he made Tonya better. She is fine - but he is far more articulate (although you could hear her catching up and getting better, so kudos). Anyway, thanks IN - loved it!
  5. Charlini

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    ITA! :p
  6. UDelpairs2012

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    He seamed to just love the gays and hate on the straight ones...
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    Really? Because he seemed to love on pretty much everyone. It's one thing I enjoyed about his commentary - he pointed out a positive aspect of each competitor's skating. (Unless, of course, you're implying that they're all gay. ;) ).
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    Keegan "Honey Badger" Messing is gay?
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  10. n*ice mom

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    I think the honey badger is used in a current commercial too. It is supposed to be synonymous with 'fearless.' Where do you get anything else? Nevermind, don't answer that... you have taken us off-topic and are clearly reading too much into Johnny's commentating.
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    I think those of us who enjoyed his commentary should tweet at Johnny to let him know :) I liked it, there were some laugh-out-loud moments there. Definitely better than Tonya/Mr. Nancy or the horrid Scott/Sandra combo!
  12. Marty

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    I did not enjoy Johnny's comments during the program.

    His comments took away from the importance of the event. To the skaters, the event is not a joke...it is important.

    Think about it...if any other of the commentators had said the comments about the costumes, people would have been up in arms. If it is inappropriate for others, it is also for Johnny.

    Someone earlier in this thread said that overly sensitive people would not like what he said...I do not consider myself overly sensitive, just a figure skating fan who doesn't think the event should be trivialized (sp) by the commentators.
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    I liked Johnny a lot. A little mouthy at times, yes, but he's new at this, and most everything he said had a point. I think he gave me real insight on what it's like to compete and train, much more than Tonia does. Like when he was talking about jumps vs. steps and how fun jumps are to train vs. steps. Talking about costumes had a point, like when he said that Jeremy's spats broke up his line. Positive, honest and funny.
  14. museksk8r

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    I think Johnny is just reveling in the fact that as a commentator, he can lighten the mood of such a stressful environment as Nationals, the Worlds and Olympic trials, the most important event of the season for the skaters in North America. As a competitor, Nationals was "do or die time" for him; as a commentator, he can be as colorful, comedic, and relaxed as he wishes to be and he has earned that right. I think he tries to extinguish the stereotype that skating is filled with old, uptight, prim and proper snobs and he wants to open the sport to a younger, more fun audience (I'm not saying that older people can't be fun) and, IMO, there is not a thing wrong with wanting to change that perception. You don't have to take yourself so seriously all the time. ;)
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    LOL no, he is not. For the record.
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    Going off-topic: Yes they were spats but IMO not appropriate to the program. Jeremy was doing big band which was mostly 1930's-40's; from Wikipedia: "Spats were primarily worn in the late 19th and early 20th centuries." By the time of big band, spats had mostly died out. Also in what century were high-water pants fashionable? I think Jeremy's costume is pretty bad.

    Did you also think Dick Button trivialized the skating events? He said things like calling Sokalova "cupcake", he used rusty hoot, he wanted to put Nicole Bobek over his knee, etc. Being lighthearted about things doesn't mean you don't take them seriously. And I don't think the majority here would be "up in arms" if some other commentator made a few jokes during their commentary.
  17. luenatic

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    Johnny is the honey badger of figure skating commentator!
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    I was annoyed at first but then I just accepted it and began to think it was quite fabulous. He talked a little too much, though.
  19. Frau Muller

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    I loved Johnny's commentating. He's a Dick Button for the 21st Century!!! More - more - MORE Johnny, puh-leeze!
  20. pinky166

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    Lol he seems to love the youngins. We all know he's obsessed with Hanyu and kept going on and on about how wonderful Jason Brown and Josh Farris are. And I'm not saying that they aren't wonderful, they are, but Johnny's comments about Jason being bright and shiny and Josh having such a romantic interpretation of Claire De Lune made me giggle :lol:.
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    We've got so many lousy figure skating commentators though - who know nothing. Rod Black makes me cringe. Tom Hammond knows horses better than figure skating. Scott Hamilton and Sandra Bezic ought to know more about figure skating but often don't act like it, talking about non-judged stuff and making people think it's judging criteria. At least Weir is entertaining and does the job well, especially if you want to grade on a curve. I think so.
  22. cruisin

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    No, he did not. They parted amicably.

    I agree, Johnny would never insult Pricilla.

    As far as his commentary, I didn't get to hear it. Wish I had. But, isn't this his first time? A learning experience, he'll grow into it and get better with time. Tanith sounded like a 12 year old when she first started, now she sounds good.
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    He did commentary on 2010 Worlds Ladies and Men's events for Universal Sports.
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    ^^ Well, that was just general comments at the end of each segment of competition. I think this was his first time doing play-by-play commentary. I thought he did a very good job. He talked a bit too much, maybe tried too hard to be funny in the beginning with the constant hair critiques, but he settled in quite nicely and gave a lot of constructive criticism on spins, jumps and steps, interpretation, etc.

    Methinks a Tara-Johnny pairing would be my dream team! :swoon:
  25. Subway

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    Well now you've just spoiled it. :p
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    Unfortunately I did not get to see Johnny commentating, but reading this thread I am cracking up at some of Johnny's comments. He sounds like a breath of fresh air in an otherwise stale and bland field of current commentators, but of course I am biased because I love Johnny...off to search you tube to see if I can find a video clip.
  27. nerdycool

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    I'm the kind of person who wants to watch my figure skating commentary-free. But if we HAVE to have a commentator, I prefer Johnny. Some of the fashion/hair talk was a little OTT, but when he did talk about the actual skating, it was informative even for those of us who are knowledgeable skating fans. Most other commentators dumb everything down, even on IN, where it's assumed that the only people subscribing are more than just casual fans.
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    He got honey badger from college football. It was the nickname given this year to LSU cornerback Tyrann Mathieu, because he is small, but very aggressive. It's actually not very original.
  29. kwanette

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    I thought that Johnny was terrific. When I first heard that he was commentating, I was a little nervous, this from a long-time fan of Johnny th e person and Johnny the skater. But, he was articulate, complimentary, not a snark, he infused wit , he did his homework. Let IN know, I did.
  30. Sparks

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    I listened to Johnny's commentary via Skate Radio (in the arena) for the Men's Short Program.
    I found it to be entertaining as well as informative.
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    That's a good idea; what e-mail address would I use if I wanted to offer feedback?
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    This! I was DYING laughing at his commentary, eyebrows and all. The comments about presentation were very insightful. I will take him any day of the week over Scott and Sandra, whose commentary made me :rolleyes: :mad: :scream:

    I'm tired of Tonia only telling us about the skater dropping a shoulder (especially on jumps where it's obvious that wasn't the problem). She's dry and boring, though to her credit she doensn't talk too much.
  33. soxxy

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    What got me was Tonia would talk during the entire performance, then as soon as the skater stopped, she stopped talking. She waited a minute for them to get in the K&C to talk again.
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    I just do not see how anyone could complain about Johnny or even poor Tonia after listening to Scott and Sandra. They are SOOOO awful; words could not possibly describe how pitiful they are. They say nothing informative. They do not ID the jumps. They do not understand the scoring system, so they cannot explain it. When Jeremy has just landed his quad and is about to give us a masterpiece, they keep blathering on and on about nothing rather than letting us enjoy the skating unfolding before our eyes. They jinx every skater by talking about a fall and then it happens (LOL, joking, but still, it is really annoying how that continually happens! lol) They are redundant in their idiocy, and just plain dumber than a sack of rocks!

    Johnny was silly sometimes about hair or eyebrows or whatever, but 95% of the time he gave insightful commentary, praised each skater, knew for real what they had done wrong approaching a botched jump, understood the scoring system, could appreciate the difficulty of spin positions and tell us, etc. etc. If I kept thinking I could go on and on. The comparison is so glaring. johnny=knows what he is talking about. Scott and Sandra=Do Not Know What they are talking about, or do not care to act as if they do. Both should. Why they are so insipid is beyond me.
  35. Rob

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    But didn't the LSU people get it from the Randall video?
  36. BittyBug

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    Not to mention the fact that I kind of doubt Johnny watches football, much less college football.

    If you haven't listened to the 2nd half of the men that just went up on demand on IN, I think you'll find a very different Johnny. I don't know if they asked him to tone it down, or if he was just a little nervous during the short, but in this segment he is calm, restrained and very selective in his commentary, with nary a mention of fashion or hair. Still some funny quips, though, with a pointed reprise of his honey badger remark (I'm guessing he got a lot of comments on that one :lol: ).

    And once again, Johnny found something positive to call out about every skater, even as he might have also been pointing out errors. I really enjoyed hearing his thoughts. :)
  37. IceAlisa

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    :respec: Love him! Hope IN keeps him.
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    Just to add, I think I like Johnny's voice as a commentator. Not annoying like errr...Scott's
  39. nerdycool

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    The honey badger reference also could have come from Glee last year.
  40. Michalle

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    Y'all, if there was a honey badger reference other than the youtube video posted on this thread, then it was in itself a homage to the youtube video... the youtube video came first, became a big hit, and lots of pop culture references to the video came later.