Johnny Weir as commentator at US Nationals

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  1. n*ice mom

    n*ice mom New Member

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    Well Mens SP is on and I am just loving Johnny Weir as a commentator. So relaxed, articulate, and insightful.

    I don't generally enjoy commentating because I find it takes away from the performances... whether the passioniately hyper or insipidly simple.

    Tonya, by comparison to Johnny, struggles to come up with something meaningful to say and instead delivers only the obvious and in a way that I think either insults the listener's intelligence or the skater's skating. Take the commentary on Jonathan Cassar...Tonya said that because he only has a double axel he has to work extra hard on other elements to make up for it, but Johnny pointed out that while the program was a lesser degree of technical difficulty the program was one of the most proficiently executed. She sounds critical, while Johnny sounds like he is giving a thoughtful critique just like a protocol. And does Tonya even know the COP? She never seems to point out that there is a -3 GOE for doing less than the required rotations or not having the required combo...she just says something like "he will credit for that single/double but it will just be less points."

    Johnny, you are a natural born commentator. Your comments are intelligent and celebrate skating. Bravo!
     
  2. shan

    shan Well-Known Member

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    I was completely annoyed at first. The gushing over Adam Rippon was :rolleyes: (and I'm a Rippon fan). But he has improved. I just wish he would talk less. I don't want to hear yammering through the entire program.
     
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  3. DickButtonFan

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    I think Johnny is doing a great job as well. He was meant to do this!:)
     
  4. SkateFan66

    SkateFan66 Active Member

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    I agree. Less talk. I would rather hear the skater's music than hear Weir make a pointless and silly comment about a skater's hair.
     
  5. numbers123

    numbers123 Well-Known Member

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    when johnny sticks to the skating comments he is great, when he thinks that he needs to tell us about hair, sparkles, "real hair" color, etc. that is :rolleyes: I want him to stick to the skating and tell us what about the skating is good or why that makes it a great jump, spin, footwork sequence.

    I want snarky comments about fashion, hair, costumes from FSU, where one can skim over or block them out if one chooses to do so.
     
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  6. Chris_E

    Chris_E Active Member

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    Completely agree. Just talk about the skating and he's great.
     
  7. oleada

    oleada Well-Known Member

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    He is KILLING me :rofl:
     
  8. iarispiralllyof

    iarispiralllyof Active Member

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    eurosport does it best
     
  9. HisWeirness

    HisWeirness FREE LYUBOV

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    Me too. I'm going to have to rewatch all of this later. Fantastic entertainment and I've learned some things too.
     
  10. lmarie086

    lmarie086 Well-Known Member

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    Same! He was born for this- he's fun and informative to listen to...unlike the other two.
     
  11. Louis

    Louis Tinami 2012

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    Very indifferent to his skating but BEST. COMMENTATOR. EVER.
     
  12. iarispiralllyof

    iarispiralllyof Active Member

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    someone on twitter said that johnny congratulated one of the skaters on leaving priscilla?

    jeez
     
  13. jeffisjeff

    jeffisjeff Well-Known Member

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    Forget IceNetwork, Johnny should host the Oscars next year. And do the post-game gown judging.
     
  14. rfisher

    rfisher Satisfied skating fan

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    ITA. He's the funniest, snarkiest commentator ever.
     
  15. mpal2

    mpal2 Well-Known Member

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    Not exactly. It was more along the lines of the skater left Priscilla and the move seemed to be working out for him and congratulations on a well-skated SP. I didn't get an insult to Priscilla out of that.
     
  16. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    I think about half of his commentary is entertaining and/or insightful, but he needs to shut up and only talk about 50% as much as he does. And most of his comments are really about him. He might as well be asking "aren't I clever?" after most of what he says. But in there is some really great stuff. And I actually love the counterpoint between him and Tonia :lol:
     
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  17. reese

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    I thought it was kinda funny and definitely sort of a dig at Priscilla. Johnny is a master of the passive-aggressive doublespeak.

    I noticed Priscilla didn't have any senior men at this event. Actually, any seniors at all in any discipline?
     
  18. Spazactaz

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    I was dying just reading excerpts here. Soooo jealous of all you who actually got to watch/listen! :(
     
  19. shan

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    I love Johnny on this Backstage show with Peter Carruthers. He can talk, talk, talk here!! Just pipe down some and it will be all good.
     
  20. dinakt

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    Thumbs up! Just one wish- that he would talk a little less during actual programs. But he is a hoot as a commentator, keep him!
     
  21. Jenna

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    I loved his commentary, for the most part. He was honest, insightful, knowledgeable and downright hilarious. I literally laughed out loud several times. I wish he would cancel his comeback and commentate for IN full time! ;)
     
  22. BreakfastClub

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    Johnny is the only commentator who could yak through the entire program and I wouldn't care. Pink flowers and sparkles, eyebrows, honey badgers and insightful about the skating too... could listen to him all day! :rofl:
     
  23. Sylvia

    Sylvia Bring on the JGP & Sr B comps!

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    Alex Zahradnicek (last year's Junior silver medalist) withdrew from the Senior men's event. She coached Tony Lu (Novice) in San Jose and then went to Euros to caoch Viktor Pfeifer there.
     
  24. doubleflutz

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    I was pleasantly surprised by how sharp he was as a technical commenter, actually. For all his trash-talking and professed ignorance of COP, he was actually better at breaking down aspects of step sequences or spins that could affect levels, unlike Tonia. Better analysis of the jumps, too, which is something she goes on and on about, without always being very insightful. His comments about how Mroz just didn't trust the landing on his 4T, and then again on the 3A, reminded me a lot of what Dick Button said about how you don't "commentate" skating, you have to "narrate" it, create a story about what's going on for the audience. When he wasn't trying to show off how clever he was, I thought Johnny did an awesome job of that, and that's probably something a general audience can relate to more than Scott Hamiltons grunts, squeals, and incoherent babbling.
     
  25. RockTheTassel

    RockTheTassel Well-Known Member

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    MTE. His comments about skating are often quite thoughtful and he had some :rofl: lines, but sometimes I just want to watch the skater skate and listen during warm ups, replays, and KnC time instead.

    That said, I did enjoy his commentary and think he could be really good.
     
  26. iarispiralllyof

    iarispiralllyof Active Member

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    did he have a bitter fallout with priscilla?
     
  27. midori

    midori Well-Known Member

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    I am not really a fan of Johnny but his commentary is BEST!! I do not mind he talks too much because I have another broadcast source to record without commentary. :D

    It is funny, warm and very informative, from elite skater-point of view to eyebrows. That makes me even wish him not coming back next year but keep commentating. :p
     
  28. Sasha'sSpins

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    Just got done reading the men's SP threads (thank you everyone for PBPs!) Congrats to Jeremy, Adam, and Armin.

    That being said I was PML at Johnny's comments!! The posts read like Tonia was the 'straight' man to Johnny's zany comic!!
    'Honey Badger' 'Pink and Sparkle's' 'Eyebrows' :rofl::rofl:
     
  29. Cheylana

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    I thought he was hilarious and insightful! Already rivaling Dick Button in the zany quotes department. :lol: I think he did an excellent job of critiquing without ripping skaters to shreds.
     
  30. Jaana

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    Is that something that should be appreciated in a person?
     
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