Johnny in NYMag

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  1. The Village Idiot

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  2. DickButtonFan

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    He always has these crazy photos lol. Not sure why he wants porn stars and strippers in his show but it's his choice I guess.
     
  3. Polymer Bob

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    A very interesting article.

    I'm not sure what more to write.
     
  4. LadyNit

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    ZOMG!!! Johnny "had several meetings with Cher’s director and choreographer, Doriana Sanchez, to discuss what he refers to as 'the Spectacular.'"

    gaaaaah. Doriana Sanchez. :rofl: :scream:
     
  5. agalisgv

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    Hmm...
     
  6. Louis

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    :rolleyes:

    What an idiot. Then again, that statement could've applied to anything that came out of Weir's mouth for this article (or at all recently).

    And, sorry, but Modlin is just creepy, more like a hanger-on than an agent. She should pay a bit more attention to her own image.
     
  7. DickButtonFan

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    I realllly hope the porn stars and strippers were just a joke.
     
  8. Polymer Bob

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    I can see there's been quite a lot of pain in this guy's life. :(
     
  9. orbitz

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    Well I'm sure they won't actually be doing porn and stripping in the show. It would just be a way to get more publicity and attract more different type of crowd to the show... if the show happens.

    Maybe Johny should try to get a gig on the E! channel. He can do fashion commentary, etc.

    The prices for those clothes that Johny wear for the photo shoot in this article are outrageous. $875 for a D&G silk lace top? :eek: Who buys stuff like that.
     
  10. mmscfdcsu

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    The show sounds like it is designed to attract the 12=17 year old crowd. People who have worked through the issues of adolescence will find the thing a huge yawn.
     
  11. Rainbow

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    How so?
     
  12. DickButtonFan

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    I'm so jealous he has that many louis vuittons. I'm eyeing the mirror one he had on one of his shows. If Johnny can have a dozen I want at least one in my lifetime lol
     
  13. Sugar

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  14. Wyliefan

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    And I've got a nice bridge in Brooklyn that's for sale . . .
     
  15. manleywoman

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    Seriously Wyliefan.

    I wonder if he'll ever be able to look at his marks and realize that his program just wasn't difficult enough. For him it's always he was just robbed.
     
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  16. Wyliefan

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    It's not that I think he comes right out and tells deliberate lies. I think he stews and frets over these things until he actually persuades himself that they really wanted to give him the gold and it was just political that they didn't. He wouldn't be the first person to think that way.

    Just my impression -- I could be totally wrong.
     
  17. Polymer Bob

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    Well, he had a really difficult break-up, he believes he was robbed at the Olympics, and something has driven him to take up smoking.
     
  18. attyfan

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    It also may be that he sees things in extremes ... so he translates the fact that a lot of people think he was robbed (because he should have been higher than sixth) into he would have gotten a medal if it wasn't political. IMO, there is very little justification for giving him a medal ... and none whatsoever for giving him gold.
     
  19. sunny_sari

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    Johnny has had some bad relationship experience including a really bad breakup with his first bf who he had said was the love of his life. It seems to have made him very fearful of committment and sure that he'll never find a connection with another person again. He's always talking about how happy he is on his own and being independent but I have to wonder if he hasn't built up some pretty strong defense mechanisms.

    His mother gave an interview before the Torino Olympics talking about how he was made fun of relentlessly as a child and at his rink when he learned to skate.

    When he started skating he was immediately corrected by coaches and directors who took issue with his style and his body. They said he was far too feminine and criticized his arms, his posturing, his hands, etc. for being very girly.

    He's been reprimanded by the USFSA since basically the beginning for everything from his appearance to his opinions. There was a period of time a few years ago when he was receiving literally buckets of hate mail a day including death threats against him and people horribly bashing his parents/family.
     
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  20. sunny_sari

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    He never once said he deserves the gold for goodness sakes. His "I'd be Olympic Champion this year" doesn't mean an argument he should have been on top of the podium (he's never uttered anything close to that) but rather if he'd done things by the book all along and the right way he could have been the champ.

    I've heard him say many times in many interviews that Evan deserved the gold and he's proud (before the crap started again between them in April). He also said Plushenko was wonderful so I have hard time believing Johnny believes he should have been the gold medalist.
     
  21. sunny_sari

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    That's another factual error with this article. Johnny hasn't recently "taken up" smoking, he's been an on/off smoker for years. His entire family smokes and his coaches so he's kind of surrounded by it.
     
  22. danceronice

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    And given the crowd he's running with now, not surprising. (There's a reason ANTM made a big show of banning smoking--in the fashionista world, people smoke because better that than eat.) Also, Russia is rather behind the US in attitudes about smoking, so if he's surrounded by Russians he's going to be around smokers. (My friend's father spent the last few years as an exec living in St. Petersburg and when she would visit that was a BIG culture shock, even having grown up in Europe when he was assigned to their Swiss office.)

    Johnny sounds a bit...mixed in that interview. Rational, irrational, OTT...I am less impressed by the description of his "agent." Who is the 'grown-up' here?

    And I love that picture with the seasoned citizens--Johnny's working it and the whole composition's good.
     
  23. sunny_sari

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    I agree with the Tara thing... ugh. Not sure what you meant by the crowd he's running with now. Are you talking about the celeb scene because he doesn't really hang out with celebs or the hollywood crowd regularly. The close friends he has (he calls them dingles) are actually a tight group of people who have known him and supported him since he was a teenager when they all used to skate together. They are his biggest support group that he's had forever and from what I can tell they seem like a pretty down-to-earth, funny group. All of them have jobs and have only really appeared on his show once (minus Paris).
     
  24. BittyBug

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    That's really a little bit of a myth - his technical difficulty was just fine.

    SP:
    1 - Plushenko - Base TES = 44.10
    2 - Lysacek - Base TES = 40.00
    3 - Takahashi - Base TES = 40.40
    4 - Oda - Base TES = 39.80
    5 - Lambiel - Base TES = 36.20
    6 - Weir - Base TES = 39.3

    Aside from Plushenko, the level of difficulty of the top guys' SPs was pretty equivalent.

    LP:

    1 - Lysacek - Base TES = 74.93
    2 - Plushenko - Base TES = 75.03
    3 - Takahashi - Base TES = 70.28
    4 - Lambiel - Base TES = 75.91
    5 - Chan - Base TES = 74.70
    6 - Weir - Base TES = 73.21

    He's a little lower here, but nothing that couldn't have been made up through +GOE and by skating clean (note that the three skaters ahead of him all fell so that drops their mark by -1 right there for the fall deduction, never mind the lower GOE).

    After GOE and fall deductions are considered, the total TES ended up being:

    1 - Lysacek = 84.57
    2 - Plushenko = 82.71
    3 - Takahashi = 73.48 - 1.00 = 72.48
    4 - Lambiel = 78.49
    5 - Chan = 79.30 - 1.00 = 78.30
    6 - Weir - 79.67

    So Johnny had the 3rd highest TES. I know there's more to difficulty than just the technical elements, but the program components are far more subjective, and it's this area where some people argue that politics came into play.

    I don't necessarily think that Johnny should have medaled, but I don't think you can say that his program "just wasn't difficult enough." He was done in by two factors: his lip and PCS. The lip is his fault. The PCS - that's debatable.
     
  25. gkelly

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    It's possible that some posters are using "not difficult enough" to refer to the content of the skating between the elements. That would affect both the infamous Transitions score and also the Skating Skills score (e.g., regarding the "multidirectional skating" criterion).
     
  26. Polymer Bob

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    bf ? ........ or gf ? :shuffle:
     
  27. sunny_sari

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    bf. He was a pairs skater. It's not much of a secret in skating circles but I won't go in depth about it here.
     
  28. reese

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    I hate how he always says he's "fluent" in Russian. That's total bullshit. He can speak a few lines here and there and he can catch the gist of some of the Russian spoken to him. And now he claims to also be fluent in French. Ridiculous. It's this kind of thing, while trivial and insignificant, that reveals a lot about his relationship to facts and truth.
     
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  30. caseyedwards

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    Oda just narrowly was ahead of Weir in TES. Oda had .02 more in TES. So that would make Weir 4th in TES but 7th in PCS behind Abbott. Abbott got huge PCS-he skated ninth but got final six level PCS. Isn't that something?