Jodi Arias trial

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by ks777, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. ks777

    ks777 Well-Known Member

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    I am so nervous.
     
  2. talulabell

    talulabell New Member

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    I think the length of deliberation was disagreements between Murder 1 and Murder 2. I'm betting they come out with Murder 2.
     
  3. ks777

    ks777 Well-Known Member

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    I am thinking the opposite. They come out with Murder1.
     
  4. Buzz

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    I hope it is a murder 1 conviction.
     
  5. talulabell

    talulabell New Member

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    I hope you're right. I'm just afraid the jury will have a hard time with that premeditation thing. Isnt murder 1 the only one that can come with the death penalty?

    But I do think she is guilty of murder 1.
     
  6. attyfan

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    In CA, the jury not only have to reach a verdict (murder 1 or murder 2), but they would have to make further findings ("special circumstances") before a defendant is eligible for the death penalty. Does anyone know if something similar would be required in this case?

    I understand that she was convicted of first degree murder!
     
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  7. talulabell

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    woah... Guilty of Murder 1. The form said something about counts of jurors who found which for what, but I missed it.

    I think they got it right.

    ETA: Nancy Grace just repeated it: 5 jurors found premeditated, 7 found both premeditated AND agrivated (I think that was the word).
     
  8. twinsissv

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    Ha! Guilty Murder..."Juan"! And you can mark her word on that!!! :respec:
     
  9. ks777

    ks777 Well-Known Member

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    5 jurors found premeditated, 7 found both premeditate and FELONY murder(I think)
     
  10. talulabell

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    yes, they just showed the reading of the verdict again... Felony was the word. I'm not sure what that means in the context of the verdict.
     
  11. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    So does this mean she gets the death penalty? I know this can't bring their son back but I hope at least this verdict can at least bring some comfort to Travis Alexander's parents.
     
  12. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Here is a video (live) from the local TV station:

    http://www.azcentral.com/community/...deo-jodi-arias-verdict-murder-trial-free.html

    The jury is going to see more evidence to see if this was aggravating murder or not. I also read a word 'cruel'. They will listen to the additional information to decide on whether or not it should be a death penalty.

    The expert thinks there is a high chance of a death penalty. Before the trial he had predicted a 1st deg. conviction.

    Here is the reading of the verdict, as shown on CNN
    http://www.cnn.com/
     
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  13. danceronice

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    Felony murder is more serious, usually death penalty. And Greta van Sustren's on saying how it's going to be hard for her attorney to argue to spare her when he he flat-out said himself nine times out of ten he didn't like his client, either...she seems to be of the opinion the defense did not do a very good job on this. (Which could help Arias in the long run as if the jury opts for the death penalty there are going to be appeals piled on appeals.)
     
  14. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Jodi Arias has cost the Maricopa County tax payers 1.7 million dollars, up to April.
     
  15. ks777

    ks777 Well-Known Member

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    Premeditate murder and felony murder are both First Degree Murder. So she will either face the death penalty or life in prison without parole.
     
  16. talulabell

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    Well, the family has announced a wrongful death lawsuit. Does the county have to sue as well, to get money back for court costs? I think I heard somewhere that, if found guilty, the defended is responsible for the costs.

    The way the verdict was read: 5 found for premeditated, 0 for felony, and 7 for premeditated PLUS felony. so, all the jury thought it was premeditated, but 7 added felony on top of that. I'm going to have to look around for what that means.
     
  17. ks777

    ks777 Well-Known Member

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    Jodi Arias has no money but she's been making money from donations and selling arts.
     
  18. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    If she writes a book and makes money from it, she may have to give it away, right?
     
  19. ks777

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    I don't know if she is allowed to write a book. Is she allowed to? I think she should come clean and tell us what really happened that day in the bathroom though. I want to know if she shot him first or last.
     
  20. CantALoop

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    Are there Son of Sam laws in Arizona? If so, they might prevent her from profiting at all from the sales of murder-related media.
     
  21. AxelAnnie

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    It is my understanding that she will no longer be able to make profit from her crime....that includes a book....and they won't care what she says she is going to do with the profit.

    Where was this jury with Casey Anthony. I am so proud of them! Thank G-d!
     
  22. AxelAnnie

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    It is my understanding that she will no longer be able to make profit from her crime....that includes a book....and they won't care what she says she is going to do with the profit. Although there are groups testing the constitutionality of the Son of Sam Laws, as near as I can tell, they apply at the moment.............as well they should.

    Where was this jury with Casey Anthony. I am so proud of them! Thank G-d!
     
  23. AxelAnnie

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    Well, not so much according to this source: CBS They have to decide mitigating factors:

     
  24. VIETgrlTerifa

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    Maybe a criminal attorney can explain this to me, but how can someone be guilty of First-degree murder and felony-murder? That doesn't make sense to me.
     
  25. ks777

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    I have mixed feelings about todays' verdict. I was so happy for Travis Alexander's family and friends but at the same time I felt really bad for Jodi Arias' family.
     
  26. numbers123

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    unfortunately there is never a good outcome for all.
     
  27. AxelAnnie

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    Her family must be hurting. This has been a nightmare for everyone. I am just so glad the jury had to courage to convict her.
     
  28. Allskate

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    I haven't been following the trial, but "felony murder" is a term that means that someone caused someone's death in the course of committing a felony. For example, let's say that someone robs a bank and ends up killing someone in the course of committing the crime. That's felony murder. It's also usually first degree murder even if the killing wasn't premeditated. For example, they might hit someone and kill them when they're speeding away from the bank.
     
  29. VIETgrlTerifa

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    That's right. Depending on the state that recognizes felony murder, it may also apply to any death that occurs in the course of one committing an "inherently dangerous" felony. So if a man commits an armed robbery, and the cashier defends himself with a gun but accidentally shoots an innocent customer, the armed robber could be charged with felony-murder.

    That's why I was confused as to how she could be convicted of both first-degree murder and felony-murder since usually deadly assault or physical violence (which could be felonies on their own) would absorb into the first-degree murder charge since the violence would be an essential element for first-degree murder.
     
  30. Vash01

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    I don't have a law background, so this may sound dumb, but isn't murder itself an act of violence? Plus stabbing someone 27 times and then shooting that person in the head sounds pretty violent to me.