Jeremy Abbott withdraws from 4cc due to an injury

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by ChibiChibi, Feb 4, 2012.

  1. PeterG

    PeterG Hanyuflated

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    Yes and no. Sarcastic (actually, probably more bitchy than sarcastic) due to the lazyness of people who can't use full names. Jeremy Ten has been battling injuries for years and finally made a great comeback at Canadians. To see a new thread stating that Jeremy has injured his hip gave me mild pains in the chest. Colour me displeased by the original poster's lazyness.

    P.S. I'm the person who will google for spelling instead of typing "T & V" for example (Maxim Trankov and Tatiana Volosozhar) so non-obsessed posters know who I am talking about.
     
  2. centerpt1

    centerpt1 Active Member

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    In a fair world, Armin would be the one going to 4CC as alternate.

    (get well soon, rest up JBott, the US needs you)

    On the other hand, Dornbush now has to prove he was worth sending. The pressure's on him.

    Personally, I hope J10 beats Dornbush. (unlikely I know)
     
  3. centerpt1

    centerpt1 Active Member

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    edited to add Jeremy Ten and Jeremy Abbott so I can stay on Peter G's good side!
     
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  4. triple_toe

    triple_toe Well-Known Member

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    I HATE the endless D/C, V/T, X/Z, whatever! Is it honestly that hard? I mean, I get it with names like Lynn Kriengkrairut and Logan Giulietti-Schmitt, but is it necessary all the time? Especially when talking about teams of old it gets awfully confusing. When I first started reading FSU I never knew who people were talking about because it was all initials. I still get confused by it sometimes.
     
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  5. MacMadame

    MacMadame Cat Lady-in-Training

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    Except they haven't done this for any other spot except maybe Rachael being 1st alternate for 4CCs but in this case she came in 6th so she only jumped up 3 places in the list and she is a former National Champion and has a much better international record than Dornbush.
     
  6. mag

    mag Well-Known Member

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    This is exactly what I thought ... but I saw Jeremy at 8 rinks last week ... oh wait, they're talking about Jeremy Abbott. :rofl:

    Just like using the name Ten (which could mean Jeremy or Denis) is confusing, it would be great if people would put last names in as well - how hard is it to type Jeremy Abbott not doing 4CC's?
     
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  7. mjames

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    If assignments are based on the years performance why did not Jeremy Abbott (hehe Peter) go to WC last year. It was the smarter choice. If picking Ricky D over Armin M is based on "Smart" choice.

    Who is USFSA? Isn't it the headquarters in Colorado where Armin M trains? Why would they not support a hometown altitude ready athlete? Don't get it.
     
  8. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    Colorado Springs is the location of USFS' paid headquarters staff.

    USFS' International Committee decides the international assignments, and they are unpaid volunteers -- officials/judges, coaches, and athletes are all represented on the IC. Link to the IC info page on the USFS site: http://www.usfsa.org/Story.asp?type=leadership&id=846
     
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  9. Ares

    Ares Guest

    If this was in fact politiks at work, for me, the question would be why would the USFSA go out of their way to ensure Dornbush gets to a championship this year?

    We've had former National medalists fall off the face of the earth in following seasons before, so what is this guy doing that gives him that type of clout with the USFSA?

    Honest question, I haven't been following his career at all.
     
  10. figurefan

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    My oh my! Did someone defecate in your wheaties this morning or are you always this petty? It's the Internet honey...full of abbreviations, bad spelling and atrocious grammar. If you don't like the "lazyness" (it's spelled laziness by the way) then hit the ignore option. :rolleyes: Some would argue that you also spelled color wrong, you are using the British variant but you could be British.

    Some people would argue that Richard Dornbush took Jeremy Abbott's Worlds spot last year but that's another story. I like Richard Dornbush but feel that his low finish at Nationals and not so stellar Grand Prix should have opened the door for Armin Mahbanoozadeh and Douglas Razzano should have been next in line...but that's just me.

    Did I get everyone's full name right? Did I spell them correctly? ;)
     
  11. Sparks

    Sparks Well-Known Member

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    PeterG, I'm sorry some people don't get you, my dear poodle.
     
  12. euterpe

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    Dornbush had a dismal SP, but his FS was 5th, ahead of Armin's. It isn't as if Ricky's entire Nationals was a disaster.
     
  13. DaveRocks

    DaveRocks Well-Known Member

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    :rofl::rofl: Thanks for the laugh.
     
  14. doubleflutz

    doubleflutz New Member

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    Some people would be on crack. Ross Miner might have taken Jeremy's spot, but not Dornbush.
     
  15. alilou

    alilou Crazy Stalker Lady

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    :rofl:

    Only an American would suggest that colour is spelt wrong. :rolleyes: You should get out more ;)

    Yes, ok I admit I too sometimes get sick of the mostly americentric bias of the board. Sigh. But to have someone suggest colour is spelt wrong is a bit much.
     
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  16. Theatregirl1122

    Theatregirl1122 Well-Known Member

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    Because USFSA does not treat worlds assignments the same way they treat 4CC assignments. As I've said in other threads, USFSA tends to consider Worlds spots to be earned by the skaters who finish on top at nationals while it tends to use 4CC spots for who will sell tickets (if the competition is in the US) and who they think needs the assignments for developmental/SB/preparedness for worlds reasons. It's silly to act like the assignments for the two competitions are done with the same logic because they obviously are not.
     
  17. taf2002

    taf2002 flower lady

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    Your sarcasm is not endearing. And Peter G is not your honey...he's mine. ;) It's not being petty to ask people to be clear in their posts. Unless they like having people misunderstand them.
     
  18. jlai

    jlai Title-less

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    I think Peter G meant to have the title of the thread clearer about the skater concerned...it is not practical to have Jeremy Abbott's full name spelled out in every post. (Imagine me having to spell Armin's last name in every post...)
     
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  19. MacMadame

    MacMadame Cat Lady-in-Training

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  20. attyfan

    attyfan Well-Known Member

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    ITA! G-d have mercy on Dornbush, if he does badly, because the USFS won't.
     
  21. aliceanne

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    You need to Google how to spell laziness while you are at it. :rofl:
     
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  22. mjames

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    I wish someone would answer this because I can't understand it. After looking back on his record he never accomplished much to earn such special treatment.

    Thanks Sylvia. I knew there was a committee but somehow I thought they were federation officials from headquarters in Colorado who were impartial and working professionals in the sport.
     
  23. Sasha'sSpins

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    I'm a day late for this.

    My stomache just tightened up when I read 'Jeremy..hip injury'. :(

    Good luck to Jeremy, please recover completely before Worlds!

    I feel very badly for Armin-it's got to really hurt to be passed over like that.
     
  24. haribobo

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    Thanks for bringing this up. His FS was actually very strong, and he was just 2 points out of 3rd place in the FS. Ostensibly he could have been 3rd in the FS if he skated in the final group. So if you consider that Ricky skated 1st in the SP and had a total fluke of a disaster (maybe he's had problems in the SP before but never like that), and couple that with his strong international results over the last few years and quite decent results this year on the GP, it makes for a compelling case that the "real" Ricky showed up in the FS.

    I don't really have a strong feeling as to whether Richard or Armin deserves this spot- I think you can make good cases for both. I will say that Armin and Doug are not nearly as exciting as Richard- perhaps someday they can be but right now there is more work to be done on presentation and choreography to create an interesting and exciting free skate, IMO. I was critical of Ricky's FS earlier this season, but at Nationals I realized that in comparison to many others, he's still pretty far ahead of most of them.

    I think the pewter medal win is great for Armin, but still, this would be a good opportunity for Armin to examine what he needs to take him to the next level so the USFS AND international judges will want to look at him as a top contendor. His Avatar FS was very good and when skated well at last year's SA, he was marked well. I haven't seen him recapture that magic since that competition though.
     
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  25. Sasha'sSpins

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    I'm an American and I'm well aware that the British spell such words as color 'colour', etc. figurefan seems to be aware of it too with the comment 'but you could be British' to PeterG.

    Americentric bias on the board. It's unfortunate if that is how you see things here.

    PeterG's comment that Ricky sounds Hispanic is interesting. I've heard this nickname all of my life but never associated particularly with Hispanics (being Hispanic myself). It does bring to mind famous character's like Ricky Ricardo and the late tv/music star Ricky Nelson. :)
     
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  26. WildRose

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    We spell it colour in Canada too.
     
  27. alilou

    alilou Crazy Stalker Lady

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    And in Australia. And in New Zealand. And in South Africa. And probably in all the ex-British colonies in Africa, and India, etc. etc.

    figurefan did begin by saying PeterG had spelled it wrongly. Well only to an American.

    And I'm not the first, and no doubt will not be the last, to comment on the americentric nature of the board - but it's not a big deal to me Sasha's Spins. I guess you missed the part where I put it in really small letters. Gosh I'd even go so far as to say some of my best friends are American :D

    Anyway enough of this. It's really not important. Feeling snarky this morning :p
     
  28. MacMadame

    MacMadame Cat Lady-in-Training

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    Peter G is an American.

    As for the "americentric nature of the board", I think that's in the eye of the beholder. The board is owned and run by someone from the UK and has way more people from Canada and Europe than any other board I've been on no matter what the focus of the board is.
     
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  29. nlloyd

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    I also found the title of this thread misleading. Jeremy Abbott's last name should be included. Every time I read it, I think it refers to Jeremy Ten, bronze medal winner at Canadians, who has just returned to competition from injury and is scheduled to participate at 4CC.
     
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  30. luenatic

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    He is? :eek:
     
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