Jay Leno back to old timeslot?

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  1. Latte

    Latte Well-Known Member

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    I think Jay will walk. He has made it very clear that he is not happy with what is going on. There are rumors that he is considering a offer from Fox.
  2. missflick

    missflick New Member

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    You mean Conan?
  3. Satellitegirl

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    I hope Conan walks. He deserves better.
  4. deltask8er

    deltask8er New Member

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    Reminds me of that famous quote by Johnny Carson to Letterman in the early 1990s:

    http://www.avclub.com/articles/advice-for-conan-from-the-late-shift,36923/

    Remember when Letterman's show was on NBC and he kept referring to the NBC/General Electric executives as 'pinheads'? Now, more than ever, we know Letterman wasn't exaggerating.


    BTW, Wanda Sykes' show is on Fox. That could make an ugly predicament for Fox, too, if Conan moves there. http://www.fox.com/wanda/
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  5. Andora

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    Why? Because she'd be bumped? I read a month ago she was getting piss poor ratings.
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  6. numbers123

    numbers123 Well-Known Member

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    I usually love Wanda, but I could not watch her after about 10 minutes. I tried several times. I would watch Leno on Fox, but not Conan. However, the general audience age group for Fox (not Faux news) is younger and probably are Conan fans
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  7. bobalina77

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    Conan is too clever and too dorky to be a frat boy :lol:
  8. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    Letterman's jokes about this situation last night were very funny. he opened with "I'm still not getting the Tonight Show"
  9. JAF

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    I heard on TBS a promo that Southland is on tonight at 10:00 EST on TNT. :)
  10. Andora

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    It did pick up Southland, but that's a touch of a step down from NBC, isn't it?

    Regina King is amazing. As is, surprisingly, Ben McKenzie from The OC.
  11. Kruss

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    And he's made his decision! Conan's statement

    I have so much respect for him right now.
  12. The Village Idiot

    The Village Idiot Demon Barber

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    Me too. Good for you Conan. LOL abt your hair.
  13. Lorac

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    Let's see what NBC does now!! They screwed up when they allowed Jay Leno to call the shots. He was the one who wanted to retire so NBC looked around for a replacement and Conan stepped up. Then Jay decided he didn't want to retire so got NBC to give him that primetime show - which was never going to work in a million years. That totally took the audience away from the local news broadcasts and the Tonight Show itself - never giving Conan a chance to develop an audience IMHO. NBC are reaping what they sowed - and they are looking more and more like they are up s#%ts creek without a paddle!!
  14. Andora

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    Man, Conan really let NBC have it. At least in a world of over-PR'd statements. He wasn't rude or bitter, but he didn't pull any punches. Good on him.
  15. Cheylana

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    This is what gets me. Why should Jay just be able to change his mind like that? Doesn't he realize other people are relying, to their detriment, on his promises? Can't people honor their commitments?
  16. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    Totally. Good for him for not accepting the huge slam that NBC was serving, for pointing out that the network brought their troubles onto themselves and are going back on their word, and for name checking Carson, Letterman and even Fallon.

    I hope that NBC leaves Conan's Tonight Show as it is and gets rid of Leno (whose appeal I never understood). If not, I hope Conan gets another opportunity soon and is able to shine - I think he will come out of this with more interest than he had before.
  17. Anita18

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    :watch:

    Good for Conan for standing up to NBC like that. He (and other prominent members of his crew) uprooted themselves and their families to move across the country and it's not fair that NBC can just go, "Hey, never mind!" just a few months in.
  18. Kruss

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    And unless I'm mistaken, Conan is leveling a bit of anger towards Leno too. The "10 pound jaw" joke last night, the "like my predecessor" part in the statement that discusses how Leno had time to overcome the shaky ratings he had in the beginning.
  19. Satellitegirl

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    Anyone want to theorize this is all a conspiracy to get more viewers to watch The Tonight Show and get ratings back to NBC? lol

    Also, good for Conan. I loved his statement. Well said, and lol @ the hair.
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  20. talulabell

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    I'm pretty sure Wanda Sykes is only on once a week (Saturdays?). So, creating a show for Conan (or Leno) wouldnt affect her.

    Good on Conan for standing up. He's right, it wouldnt be "the tonight show" if it didnt start until after midnight. I've enjoyed him at 11:35, and I hope he stays there. The ball is in NBCs court.

    I agree with what others have said. Jay retired. Then he changed his mind, and got the 10:00 show (who the heck thought that was a good idea). He screwed local news, he screwed Conan. It's time for Jay to actually retire and go away. Put things back to how they should be, and maybe Conan can do something with the TOnight Show.
  21. PrincessLeppard

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    What about moving Jay earlier in the evening? Why does he have to be on at nine? Although I just don't think a talk show like is going to work in the early evening, and I like Jay. Sometimes, I just watch his monologue, and then switch to something else, though, unless I like the guest. But I always turn back to NBC for the local news. They are the only crew here who aren't morons.
  22. fenway2

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    I've got to chime in & add my own "Good for Conan!" He's being pushed around by those cowards at NBC & I'm glad to see he's not going to stand for it.
  23. deltask8er

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    Or put him on one of the NBC cable channels, like Bravo?

    :confused: What could be a more lucrative offer than the Tonight Show? (aside from becoming BFF with Oprah, resulting in your own syndicated show)
  24. fenway2

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    He probably meant financially lucrative. He makes it very clear the level of prestige he believes The Tonight Show holds in American popular culture.
  25. deltask8er

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    So, what other entertainment/comedy show scenarios would he be referring to? Was he offered an unbelievable deal by Fox, for example, the other year? Comedy Central? HBO?

    I don't know what his current salary is, but he was paid $8 million a year near the end of his Late Night gig.

    http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/2002/2002-02-26-obrien.htm

    Just wondering :sekret: .

    I also assume Leno and O'Brien have different agents, trying to get the best deal for his client, too :bribe: :hat1: .

    ETA: $20 million a year. Good for him!

    http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/10/conan-obrien-jay-leno-nbc-foc-abc-tonight-show
  26. orbitz

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    It' s not like NBC plan to cancel 'The Tonight Show'. Conan and his staff still have have that spot if they want it. I don't buy the argument that 'The Tonight Show' at 12am is no longer 'The Tonight Show'. This is more about Conan's ego talking. I do understand Conan's frustration, anger, etc. but in the grand scheme of thing, so what if his show got moved.
  27. dst7star

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    Ego? I'm not sure. I feel Conan has a valid point. A show that starts at 12:05 AM is not the tonight show, and NBC does not need another hour of Today. I don't know how this will work out, but it seems NBC is comfortable being in last place again. They let solid scripted shows go for a money-saving experiment that just didn't work out. Oh well.
  28. dbell1

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    :kickass: I now worship Conan O'Brien! He sat for 6 years, he uprooted his family and staff (and their families) to LA from NY on the promise of getting "The Tonight Show" and now he's got to watch some prima donna jerk the network around? Awesome statement, very well written and :rofl: on the beginning "people of earth" and end "hair" comment. :cool:

    I grew up watching Johnny Carson and remember the debacle when he retired and Jay took over - Jay never even acknowledged Carson in his first show. Good riddance to Jay. Never liked him after that classless act. Too bad NBC didn't keep Letterman and send Jay packing all those years ago.
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  29. genevieve

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    I took it to mean he had turned down offers when he was hosting the Late Show, that paid more than he was making at that time, but he stuck with the Late Show and put in his time at NBC in order to move up to the Tonight Show down the line. Possibly he was referring specifically to the 5 years between when he was named as Tonight Show successor and when he got to take over, as I'm sure his stock went up a lot during those years and there would have been plenty of places that would have loved to have gotten their hands on him.
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  30. KikiSashaFan

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    I wish I could positive rep Conan :respec: If I ever happen to meet him I'll stick a green post it on him :p
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  31. Indra486

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    According to TMZ, NBC plans to put Leno back on the Tonight Show. :eek: Conan plans to leave the network for Fox?

    I am reading this from ONTD.
  32. Orable

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    Chiming in to echo you. Shame on NBC - they're treating him very, very badly! :wags finger: Of course I'm not and have never been a Leno fan, so that's coloring things a bit, but, seriously, Conan waited his turn patiently for YEARS, just to get shat on like this? Tisk, tisk. I have to confess that I do think that Craig Ferguson is funnier than both of them, tbh

    Good on Conan! :respec:
  33. numbers123

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    Princess is correct - our local NBC station has the only crew who aren't morons.
  34. love skating

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    I like both Jay and Conan and wish them the best.

    I disagree with those who said Jay wanted to retire and changed his mind. I don't think he ever wanted to retire. NBC forced his hand. He agreed to leave The Tonight Show after a set number of years so they could keep Conan because Conan had been shopping around to take his show elsewhere back then. But I think Jay wasn't happy about it. And when it was time for the switchover Jay's ratings were so good still that NBC didn't want him to leave. But they already promised Conan the show so they went with the 10 O'Clock idea because now other networks were looking at doing a show with Jay and now they didn't want to lose him.

    It's all so ironic. It all started because there was talk of Conan going to another network and NBC didn't want to lose him. And now it looks like that will be what happens after all. If they just let him go back then, they could've saved not only a lot of money, but a lot of bad press.
  35. Indra486

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    That's why he's on the late, late night show. ;)
  36. Allskate

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    I'm not a Conan fan at all, but I agree with him on this and I don't think Jay comes off looking so good.

    Conan did his time in the after midnight spot for years, giving up alternative earlier shows elsewhere. That helped with Jay's ratings by keeping down the competition, and now NBC has screwed him over. If Jay wanted to come back at 11:30, he should have gone to Fox.
  37. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    oh PML Craig Ferguson just called NBC "lying rat bastards" on his show :rofl:
  38. soxxy

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    Jay may be walking away from NBC as well.

    http://www.popeater.com/2010/01/13/...popeater.com/2010/01/13/jay-leno-leaving-nbc/

    I'd find it odd if Jay thought he could just waltz back into his old time slot without a *real and sincere* sign of approval from Conan.

    I'm guessing NBC will be trying to work this thing out to both their satisfaction during the Olympics. (NBC, don't mess with the Olympics!)
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  39. deltask8er

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    OMG, did you see Jimmy Kimmel act and look like Jay Leno throughout his entire show?!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMgPPJZfsCM

    :rofl: :EVILLE: :p :respec:


    I saw the first half of the Tonight Show, too. Conan's jokes and timing were on fire! :kickass:
  40. The Village Idiot

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:!!!