Japanese skater/skating news & updates

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  1. seabm7

    seabm7 Active Member

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    The answer is "no". I translated the article into Korean using a Korean webservice and checked the content. It is a very short article. The first half of it is about some Japanese triathlon people canceling their trip to a competition in China due to safety concerns. The second part is like this:

    The Head of JSF, Ms. Seiko Hashimoto, said that "the athletes cannot be sent under the current conditions" to the third GP series, Cup of China, at Shanghai at the beginning of November, suggesting pending of the trip. Asada Mao (Chukyo University), Miki Ando (Toyota Automobile), and Daiske Takahashi ( Kansai Graduate School) are scheduled to participate in Cup of China.

    Basically, this is it. JSF is worried and monitoring the situation. It does not mean they canceled the participation yet. It is too early to say something definite. My guess is things will calm down in a few weeks.
     
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  2. l'etoile

    l'etoile New Member

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    North East Asian region is becoming more and more like a minefield lately:(
     
  3. FrouFrou

    FrouFrou New Member

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    Thanks. I just hope the skaters' safety won't be compromised and they get to compete in two events to have a chance at qualifying for the GPF, especially Mao. It's been so long since she was at the finals and I was bummed last season when she had to withdraw even though it was obviously for a more important reason than skating. Keep politics out of skating.
     
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  4. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    I hope the affected skaters competitive season won't be ruined by the turmoil.
    Can the ISU make adjustments to the schedule/entries to facilitate that?
     
  5. mikeko

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    China has territorial disputes with Philippines and Vietnam, too.
     
  6. Mrs. P

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    And OT for the record: Japan is also in a dispute with South Korea over what is known as the Dokdo Islands.

    Back to the topic: I hope it works out and things calm down. I hate for these skaters to miss out on the GPF because of political events they have no direct role in.
     
  7. Theatregirl1122

    Theatregirl1122 Well-Known Member

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    This most likely has a lot less to do with politics and a lot more to do with the actual, physical safety of their skaters. Hopefully things will calm down before November, but if the event were this weekend, the Japanese fed would be perfectly justified in feeling that their skaters would be in harms way if they went to China. Missing a GP event is not the end of the world and will not ruin their season. Hopefully they won't have to miss the event. But they'll be fine if they do.
     
  8. FrouFrou

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    I'm actually not against the Japanese skating federation pulling the skaters out of competition in China if the Chinese demonstrators potentially are a threat- that's what I meant when I said I hope the skaters' safety won't be compromised. "Keep politics out of skating" was not the most conducive way, but my way of saying there is a time and place to air out whatever issues people have without resorting to violence against an individual simply because of their nationalities.
     
  9. ioana

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    Not to mention they'd need increased security measures if they were to go and the organizers might not be willing or able to afford that. I can easily see why the JSF isn't willing to spend their entire budget on heightened security for one event -that's not even Worlds or 4CC.
     
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  11. Jeschke

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    any news, who miki will coached by this season?

    by the time there should have been a decision, and i can´t wait to know.
     
  12. MikiAndoFan#1

    MikiAndoFan#1 Well-Known Member

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    I read at Mao's fan forum that Miki will compete without a coach.
     
  13. Jeschke

    Jeschke Well-Known Member

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    thanks, that´s what i suspected, but my dear, how can this go the right way? let´s see
     
  14. inskate

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    To be more precise, the article mentioned that Miki will not have a coach "by her side during CoC." A bit earlier it was reported that she is working with Yuko Monna (who worked with Miki for 4 years when Miki was a young girl, she also helped Miki get her jumps stable during the off-season after Olympics 2006 and was her co-coach during the 2006-07 season). So it's possible that Miki still works with Yuko, but Yuko, being busy with her young students, can't follow Miki to the competitions outside of Japan.

    I hope Miki does well. She looked pretty fit during the summer shows (and she was shown landing a great 3T-3T in one f the practice clips). :)
     
  15. Hedwig

    Hedwig Rarely here anymore but I try to be better!

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    I thought Miki withdrew from the whole GP? Or is that just a rumour at this point that she is going to withdraw?
     
  16. Jeschke

    Jeschke Well-Known Member

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    do you have any links of that clip?

    i wondered if miki was going for 3toe3toe (like everybody else-->kind of boring), because 3toe isn´t one of her good jumps ormaybe wasn´t.
    but obviously she hadn´t any effort with her 3loop-combos.

    we will see, she has a great 3lz2lo, i would build on that.
     
  17. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    Rumor.
     
  18. rosewood

    rosewood Whoa! Samurai battles!

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    Can't wait watching top skaters' new programs at Japan Open!!
    Mao's Swan Lake should be soooooooo graceful:saint:
    And the Carnival on Ice 2012 is the most gorgeous ever:respec:
    WHEEEEEEEE
     
  19. jlai

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    Sorry for the cross posting:

    There's an article about the Japanese federation sending their skaters to Cup of China after all.
    http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2012-09-...96240244.shtml
    There's something in there about wanting China to guarantee safety of the skaters. And the Japanese fed is also bringing extra security
     
  20. inskate

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    Sorry for such a late reply! I didn't notice your post until now. :eek:

    The clip I watched seems to be gone, but the 3-3 can be seen in this clip at 0:40 :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8lsF_b0jLE
    The quality isn't the best (it looks like sonebody filmed the screen with their camera), but it's the best I could find.

    3-3s with loop at the end are extremely difficult to get ratified among seniors those days, I'm not surprised they are not exactly popular those days. I think we'll see more 3Lz-Ts, 3F-3Ts, etc., as the time goes on (some of the ladies who did 3T-3Ts lasts season are already doing them in practice and planning to put them in their programs this season).

    I think 3T is actually one of Miki's strongest triples - she often planned it at the end of her programs, did it in shows, and was capable of landing 2A-3T and 3T-3L. I think the only times she messed it up in competition was when her condition in general was so poor that she could fall on anything.

    Plus, 3Lz-3Lo wouldn't work too well for Miki in the SP. 3F is not her strong jump (after she fixed the edge it became somewhat unstable and frequent falls in practice aggravated her injuries), and she wouldn't be able to repeat 3L, so only acceptable choice left would be 3S (which she never did in the SP out of steps). 3Lz-3L + 3S = 15,3 BV, 3T-3T + 3Lz = 14,2. That's only 1,1 point of difference - and 3T-3T is likely to get up to +2 GoE if done well, while 3Lz-3L is likely to be downgraded again...
     
  21. Jeschke

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    thanks so much; looks solid, hope she can deliver it!

    i always thought the same about mikis toe jump, but in some interview it was mentioned, that it wasn´t one of her best jumps, so 2a3t are difficult for her. i was kind of surprised cause most of the time this combo looked really strong.

    but i´m not sure if a clean 3llz2t 3l 2a short will put her much behind thos with 3t3t.

    problem will be yu-na kim coming back with mayby 3lz3t, even the russian wonder babies are going for the 3t3t :D
     
  22. wonderlen

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    Gone are the days of 3F+3Lo and 3Lz+3Lo....Even Adelena Stok is revemping her jump to 3Lz+3T...she was having problem landing and getting < all last season. Once u hit puberty....bye bye to that combo
     
  23. Jeschke

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    yes, it´s a nice developement so many girls out there doing 3t3t and a many 2a3t, but for me personally i miss the hard combos.

    some of these girls even do not have a triple flip or lutz in their program.

    but maybe it´s just the time and it will probably disappear like all those sequences with 2axels at the end in the olympic season.
     
  24. rosewood

    rosewood Whoa! Samurai battles!

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    According to this article Japanese federation announced they send their people to Shanghai to investigate security around the link and the hotel. And also it says &#65322;&#65345;&#65360;&#65345;&#65358;ese fed received answers from ISU and Chinese fed, that they do their best not to make any trouble during COP.
    http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/f-sp-tp0-20121004-1027521.html

    I just found Mao's new CF. She looks pure and beautifu in her white dress :saint: It's a kind of funny CF. Mao is reading a story about a pig which wants to clean up every toilet around the world :D
    http://toiletton.com/movie/
     
  25. os168

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    Good news! In time of peril, actually sports AND arts are good uplifting exchanges to ease the tension, or certainly calm the situation for a while.

    Figure skating is both, a celebration of skill and beauty. I really doubt people are going to blame/target a few young skaters who have nothing to do with the deeds of the last the generation. If they do, they should really be ashamed of themselves. There's a time and place for everything, and Cup of China is certainly not the place to unleash their protest to unrelated matters.

    I am especially looking forward to Mirai making the most of her only GP assignment this year. Come on Mirai!!
     
  26. kwanatic

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    Wow. I'm actually really impressed with Miki's performance here. Her Meditation program is beautiful! Is that going to be a competitive program or is that just her exhibition?
     
  27. Hedwig

    Hedwig Rarely here anymore but I try to be better!

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    OMG - think before you post. :rolleyes: There is a time and place for attacking innocent bystanders (which is what is/was feared, i.e. that random Japanese people are attacked)
    And only those who attack beautiful skaters should be ashamed of themselves?

    I realize that you did not mean it that way but it was worded really poorly and without giving it any thought at all. And people who attack other people should not only be ashamed of themselves but be punished. I doubt you realize what an angry mob is capable off. :wall:
     
  28. Doubletoe

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    The length is 3:22 (neither short nor long program length) and there isn't enough content, so it's got to be her exhibition program.
     
  29. os168

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    I am glad you realize I don't mean that way, so why bring it up at all? I realise this is a time for sensitivity, so please don't embellish it into something else other than what was stated. Surely I don't have to type out there're no excuse for violence, vigilante and vandalize innocent by standers, or write an 1000 words essay on what WOULD BE the right cause of action and WHY sports and arts should continue in times of peril and wide political divide, for that they can bring people together?

    I am going to share the rest of my thought on the issue in the other political incorrect thread a bit later.

    Good luck to all Japanese skaters at Cup of China.
     
  30. Hedwig

    Hedwig Rarely here anymore but I try to be better!

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    Why bring it up at all? Because it was an insensitive post the way you posted it and I wanted to bring to your attention that you can insult when you write this way.
     
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