ISU Junior Grand Prix dates & locations in Fall 2013

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  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    From: http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=3854
    (ETA that allezfred originally posted this link in Oct. 2012 in a GSD thread titled "ISU Communication No. 1767: Decisions of the ISU Council")

    ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating – Calendar Season 2013/14

    The ISU Council approved the following calendar for the season 2013/14:

    Riga, Latvia August 27-September 1, 2013 (incl. Pair Skating)
    Mexico City, Mexico September 4-8, 2013
    Kosice, Slovakia September 11-15, 2013 (incl. Pair Skating)
    Gdansk, Poland September 18-22, 2013
    Minsk, Belarus September 25-29, 2013 (incl. Pair Skating)
    Ostrava, Czech Rep. October 2-6, 2013 (incl. Pair Skating)
    Tallinn, Estonia October 9-13, 2013 (incl. Pair Skating)

    ETA: Of course there's already a U.S. JGP assignment speculation thread in the Trash Can ;): http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...s-Projection-Discussion-for-JGP-Spots-2013-14
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  2. oleada

    oleada Well-Known Member

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    So is that 5 pairs event instead of just 4? :cheer:
  3. BittyBug

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    Why are they always predominantly in Eastern Europe?
  4. SamuraiK

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    Those are usually the feds that apply for hosting the events. US (Lake Placid) and France (Courchevel) tend to do it every 2 years.
  5. Skittl1321

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    Because they offer to host? I don't think these events are great money makers.
  6. BittyBug

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    I know they're not money makers, but given that, it's curious to me that it's mostly Eastern European countries that step up and pursue them. Why not the richer feds?
  7. Marco

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    No Asia :eek:
  8. IceIceBaby

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    Eastern Europe has been very active for getting the European Championships, too. And then half of the arena is empty because they don't have any interesting home skaters.
  9. hanca

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    Actually, this year it was mostly full, especially for long programs and free dance. For SP it is sometimes difficult to take time off for people, so they prefer to come in the evening.

    Also, this year one whole side was reserved for press and VIP (skaters, skating federations etc) so at some events it could have looked half empty if the camera caught that side of the hall, but only because the public was not allowed to go there.
  10. allezfred

    allezfred Prick Admin Staff Member

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    Have you been to any European championships? The only one I recall being half empty was in 2008 and this year's was really well attended. :confused:
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    Really surprised that there is nothing in Asia.

    When will the Senior B's be announced? I hope those are spread around more widely.
  12. allezfred

    allezfred Prick Admin Staff Member

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    If the federations don't bid for them, they aren't going to get them. For all we know the Asian federations aren't interested in organising JGPs.
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  14. allezfred

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    So you weren't in Zagreb then, I take it. As somebody mentioned upthread one side of the rink was cordoned off for press, skaters and officials. The side that was for the general public was pretty full, especially for the frees. The gala was more or less sold out.

    I guess since Amodio only presents to one side of the rink he wouldn't have been aware of the audience behind him. :p
  15. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    This is the first time Košice, SVK is hosting a JGP - the other 6 cities have hosted at least once, or a few times, before.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Košice
    "Košice (German: Kaschau, Hungarian: Kassa) is a city in eastern Slovakia. It is situated on the river Hornád at the eastern reaches of the Slovak Ore Mountains, near the border with Hungary. With a population of approximately 240,000, Košice is the second largest city in Slovakia after the capital Bratislava."
  16. Ziggy

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    Yay, can't wait for the JGP season to begin. I will defo be in Gdansk. :)

    Because American and Asian federations aren't offering to host them. :p

    It's good this way as well since many federations can't afford to send skaters to events happening outside of Europe.
  17. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Canada hasn't hosted a JGP since 2005. :shuffle:

    Japan last hosted a JGP in 2010 (in Karuizawa).
  18. Ziggy

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    And they aren't hosting a senior international event either even though it would be really in their favour and would surely have loads of skaters competing (many international skaters train in Canada and the US).

    Skate Canada, YOU SUCK!
  19. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Canada did host the combined Junior & Senior GP Finals in Quebec City in December 2011.

    I looked up the JGP competitions that have been held in Asia (including Australia) and the North American continent:

    1998 Mexico City, Mexico; Beijing, China
    1999 Montreal, Canada; Nagano, Japan
    2000 Mexico City; Harbin, China
    2001 Phoenix, AZ-cancelled after 9/11; Nagano, Japan
    2002 Scottsdale, Arizona; Montreal; Beijing, China
    2003 Mexico City; Okaya City, Japan
    2004 Long Beach, CA; Harbin, China
    2005 Montreal; Okaya City, Japan
    2006 Mexico City; Taipei, Taiwan
    2007 Lake Placid, NY
    2008 Mexico City; Combined Finals in Goyang, S. Korea
    2009 Lake Placid, NY; Finals in Tokyo, Japan
    2010 Karuizawa, Japan; Finals in Beijing, China
    2011 Brisbane, Australia; Finals in Quebec City
    2012 Lake Placid, NY
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  20. BreakfastClub

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    :rofl:

    I'm still a little traumatized from being so scrunched during the jammed free skates in Zagreb. The arena was pretty packed. Amodio should ask Cinquanta why there weren't 5000 people because it's the ISU that holds most of the seats on the judges' hostage.

    On topic... some pretty beautiful locations for the JGP. Riga, Tallinn, Gdansk, Kosice... you could make a great Eastern Euro vacation out of it!
  21. kalamalka

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    Thanks, Sylvia. That is actually more non-European JGPs than I'd remembered, but (excluding finals, which are now probably scheduled more around the seniors than juniors) only one non-European JGP per year since 2007*, and other than the post-9/11 cancellation year, never more than one JGP in North America. They used to more or less rotate Can/US/Mex for one slot. It's probably not mainly a matter of no one to host in NA - it may be that ISU has decided there will now just be one non-European slot.

    *not quite - there was one in South Africa in 2008, the year before they changed from 8 to 7 events - not covered in Sylvia's NA/Asia list.
  22. sandra_persch

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    But members have to apply to host a JGP and if I take Germany as an example they only apply every second year but seem to have managed to make a small profit out of hosting it since they moved it to Dresden.

    What I'd like to know is way the Asian and Amerikan federations don't apply more often! Do they not care or are they more interested in hosting SGP and Championships?
  23. Ziggy

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    No way would ISU decide that when non European countries are the ones where skating is most popular, for the most part.

    JGP is JGP though. Unless you're really lucky, those are loss-making events to hold.
  24. Rae35

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    How about that... six in Europe, one in Mexico? And this is a world sport?
  25. SamuraiK

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    It has Never been a world sport. All of Africa and South America countries dont have a ISU federation except for 3 nations. And in Asia there's only about a dozen from a continent with more than 50 countries. It has always been Europe plus special guest powerhouse stars CAN,USA and just lately JPN and CHN.
  26. allezfred

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    All those European countries wouldn't be hosting it if they were making a loss. There's money there, just not in ticket sales. :shuffle:

    :violin:

    Well seeing as 42 out of the 68 figure skating members in the ISU are in Europe, I'd say that balance was more or less right. :p
  27. Vagabond

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    Does it cost the Eastern European federations anything to rent a rink for a week? If the federations own the rinks or can get them for free or on the cheap from a local authority, it may actually be easier for them to host the event than it would be for other federations.
  28. Ziggy

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    That might be it. Pretty much all ice rinks in Poland are owned by the local authorities which probably rent the ice for free (as a kind of sponsorship) for the purpose of international events.

    If rinks had to be hired from private companies, then those events would surely run on a big loss.
  29. Vagabond

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    And, indeed, that's why the USFSA often hosts events in Colorado Springs and Lake Placed.
  30. Lara

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    :wuzrobbed It was the only event Montreal would occasionally get. I guess no more. :(
  31. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    The 2013-14 JGP Announcement document with entry numbers by country is available now: http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,4844-151840-169056-nav-list,00.html

    Direct link to Announcement: http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=4429

    LADIES
    2 entries per JGP (7 events): RUS, USA, CAN
    1 entry in 7: JPN, GER, KOR
    1 entry in 6: FRA, FIN, CHN, AUS

    MEN
    2 entries per JGP: USA, CHN, PHI (latter 2 countries not likely to use all their spots)
    1 entry in 7: RUS, JPN, GER
    1 entry in 6: CAN, KOR, BLR, BRA

    PAIRS
    3 entries in 5 events: USA, CAN, RUS, CHN
    2 entries in 5 events: GER, ITA, UKR, POL, NED

    DANCE
    2 entries per JGP: RUS, FRA, USA
    1 entry in 7: CAN, GER, UZB
    1 entry in 6: UKR, ITA, TUR, ESP
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  32. hanca

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    I don't think the skating Federation owns the rinks. At least not in the UK. The rink is owned by the Local authority.
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  33. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Announcements are available now for the first and last (7th) JGP competitions:

    Riga Cup in Latvia, August 28-31, 2013
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, July 26, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Riga)."

    Tallinn Cup in Estonia, October 9-12, 2013
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, September 6, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Tallinn)."

    Event website for the 3rd JGP in Košice, Slovakia, September 11-15, 2013: http://www.jgpkosice.sk/
    I think they meant to write seven events. ;) ETA: I think they also meant to write the "following week..."
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  34. Tantallongirl

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    How do they decide what junior skaters/teams go to a Grand Prix? Especially new teams that are starting a competition season together for the first time?
  35. Ziggy

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    It's all up to the respective national federations.
  36. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    For example, Skate Canada usually publishes JGP minimum technical requirements (and TES scores?) for their skaters -- I don't see a link for the 2013-14 season on their International Assignments page yet.

    ETA: Last season's document re. JGP/Senior B selection criteria is no longer online (it was replaced by Skate Canada's selection criteria for 2013 Worlds, 4CC & Junior Worlds) but here was the relevant discussion thread from last year: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...ion-criteria-for-Senior-B-amp-JGP-assignments
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  37. oubik

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    It should be also great to learn Slovakian friends that Riga is a capital city of Latvia (as well as the capital city of Lithuania is Vilnius...)
  38. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Four more Announcements are available online:

    Riga Cup in Latvia, August 28-31, 2013
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, July 26, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Riga)."

    Mexico Cup in Mexico City, September 4-7
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, August 2, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Mexico City)."

    ISU Junior Grand Prix Kosice in Slovakia, Sept. 12-15
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, August, 9, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Kosice)."

    Baltic Cup in Gdansk, Poland, Sept. 18-21
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, August 16, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Gdansk)."

    Minsk, Belarus, Sept. 25-29

    Czech Skate in Ostrava, October 2-5
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, August 30, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Ostrava)."

    Tallinn Cup in Estonia, Oct. 9-12
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, September 6, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Tallinn)."
  39. Hanna

    Hanna Wheeeeeeeeeee

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    Finnish entries have been named.

    JGP in Riga, Latvia Aug 28 - Sept 1, 2013
    Ladies: Liubov Efimenko
    Men: Juho Pirinen

    JGP Mexico City, Mexico Sept 4 - 8, 2013
    Ladies: Lyydia Määttänen

    JGP Kosice, Slovakia Sept 11 - 15, 2013
    No spots

    JGP Gdansk, Poland from Sept 18 - 22, 2013
    Ladies: Jenni Saarinen
    Men: Juho Pirinen

    JGP Minsk, Belarus from 25 - 29, 2013
    Ladies: Lyydia Määttänen
    Men: Matthias Versluis

    JGP Ostrava, Czech Republic Oct 2 - 6, 2013
    Ladies: Jenni Saarinen
    Men: Tino Olenius

    JGP Tallinn, Estonia Oct 9 - 13, 2013
    Ladies: Liubov Efimenko
    Men: Matthias Versluis

    Subs for all events: Nelma Hede, Rosaliina Kuparinen, Seidi Rantanen (ladies), Roman Galay (men)

    No ice dance :(
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  40. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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