Ilinyh/Zhiganshin, Sinitsina/Katsalapov, Zabijako/Larionov, Bazarova/Deputat

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  1. TAHbKA

    TAHbKA Well-Known Member

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    Updates on the Russian pairs/ice dancers from Elena Vaytsekhovskaya in sport-express.ru
    The Estonian team Natalia Zabijako/Alexandr Zaboev, who were 10th in the Europeans 2014 split. the decision was voiced by Zaboev on his facebook page where he wrote his partner's decision came a surprise. The new partner of the 19y.o. Zabijako is the Russian 28y.o Larionov, who skated for years with Vera Bazarova and medaled 3 times in the europeans.
    They will be coached in Moscow by Mozer. They will be able to compete internationally in a year from now after Zabijako sits out a season.

    According to Sport-express information Bazarova should continue her skating career as well. She already has an agreement with a new coach and a new partner, it should be ok-ed by the federation next week.

    Another change is in the ice dance: starting tomorrow Elena Ilinyh, who skated up till now with Nikita Katsalapov will be training with Ruslan Zhiganshin. They plan working in Moscow in Kustarova/Alexeeva group.

    As for Ilinyh's ex partner Katsalapov who wants to skate with Sinitsyna - all will depend on how fast they can do the paper work. Nikolai Morozov who is to coach them is wrapping up his work in Russia and is moving to Hackensack.
  2. TAHbKA

    TAHbKA Well-Known Member

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    Let me say it: :scream:
  3. Finnice

    Finnice Well-Known Member

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    I second TAHbKA. And:wuzrobbed
  4. Marta24

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    I'm just so shocked that this is really happening. I knew about the rumors, but I never thought they would really go through with it. I think, the big winner in this situation will be Zhiganshin, who gets one of the best female ice dancer in the world as a new partner.

    The realtionship between Nikita and Elena must have been really strained if the Russian Federation was ready to go with this split.
  5. shan

    shan Well-Known Member

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    All I can say is wow! :scream:
  6. kimkom

    kimkom Two Pot Screamer

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  7. DORISPULASKI

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    The big winners are Bobrova & Soloviev, who get a chance to regroup after a disastrous season, while the two teams who are most competitive with them self-destructed.
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  8. TAHbKA

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    Am curious to see Ilinyh and her mom getting along with Kustarova/Alexeeva. Am also curious to see what Ilinyh's costumes will look like (recalling Bobrova's horrors... :scream:)
  9. Moka-Ananas

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    Oh the lost potential greatness of I/K...gone...:fragile:
    And another cringeworthy catastrophe is sooo going to happen.
    Kustarova will absolutely **** up I/Z, why don't they go to Igor or Krylova or even Linichuk for God's sake?!
    I wonder who Bazarova's new partner will be. They sure found one fast.
  10. lulu

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    Thanks for the update TAHbKA. :)

    I know there have been even more high profile partner breakups in the past (most notably Rodnina & Ulanov), but has there ever been this many high profile partner switches/breakups in one season?
  11. manhn

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    I can't see both ice dance teams surviving (and thriving). One of them will explode.

    I wonder who Vera will be skating with.
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  12. Marta24

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    Well, I have the little hope that they learned their lesson with Bobrova and won't put Elena in those monstrosities that Bobrova had to wear. Who knows, maybe this situation will be better for Elena. She doesn't have to deal anymore with Morozov (thank god, but poor Victoria, though :( ) and maybe Ruslan fits her better character-wise.
  13. rfisher

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    This also means Leonova is now coachless as she said she wasn't moving to the US. I wonder if Vasiliev is splitting up Gerboldt and Enbert, especially if her injury is still a problem. :watch: I love the Russians.
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    :eek::eek: ....the Russians sure do not do things by halves. Am :wuzrobbed about I/K. Excuse while I rummage for a large whiskey to calm my nerves.
  15. lmarie086

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    I'm just stunned. Really thought the relationship between Elena and Nikita was improving, and I wish it was Morosov whot got ditched.

    Elena gets the better end of the deal here.
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  16. Lyinna

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    :mad::eek::scream: It's so sad, I loved Zabjiko/Zakroev. And I don't get it. If Larionov has one year to loose, why not use this year to fix Vera's jump?

    And for I/K split I'd rather not even think about it.
  17. love_skate2011

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    :p, B/S will win Worlds !
  18. Hanna

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    This is all completely fecked up.

    I can't even begin to think about the I/K split (they were to be legends in my book) and the fact that we're gonna see Oily oiling himself all over Victoria next season. :scream:

    Also, all the exciting "up'n'comer" pairs from Euros are splitting too. :huh: First Davidovich/Krasnapolski, now Zabijako/Zaboev. Zabijako was the one that was actually Estonian in this pairing and now they're going to skate for Russia? What a shame, especially since Estonia qualified two spots for Europeans.
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    This.

    She said she wouldn't move to the US to train for the whole summer, let alone permanently.

    What a reversal: Estonia wouldn't give Zaboev a passport, and now they lose their Pairs woman to Russia. If one of her parents is an Estonian citizen, ie, she didn't apply at 15 or older, then she won't have to give up her Estonian (EU) passport.
  20. mollymgr

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    Today is April 6th here.:watch:
  21. Jeschke

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    you speak out of my heart; i really have no clue, why they not even try it with linichuk, holy shit.

    i had the small hope (and fear the same time) kiril khaliavin mightbe the lucky guy, but seems he stays with monko and i hope they will not take the gorshkova/buikov route.
    but come on, b/s and stepanova/bukins chances increased by a mile :D

    unfortunately i cannot imagine what i/z will look like, but let's wait and see.
  22. Moka-Ananas

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    To be honest I don't think I/Z is going to work out. Although Ruslan is very good he is no match for Elena. Also they don't have the look Elena and Nikita had together.
    Nikita and Victoria could actually work out but only for a limited amount of time because Morozov will sleep with her anyway.
  23. Macassar88

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    I think that Ruslan is a better skater than Nikita is, but I worry whether he's tall enough or mature enough to handle Elena. Granted he mentioned once that when he was with Sinitsina, his goal was to showcase and nurture her or something like that, so hopefully he can handle her. I am so happy for Bobrova and Soloviev though. Probably one more national championship at least guaranteed for them even if they do their free dance to the chicken dance!
  24. TAHbKA

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    According to her ISU bio she was born in Tallinn. Assume she has an Estonian citizenship by birth
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    She only has it by birth if at least one of her parents is Estonian. If both of her parents were Russian and opted to keep Russian citizenship or didn't qualify under the laws that were meant to put up road blocks for Russians who moved to Estonia in Soviet Times -- waiting periods, language tests, etc., -- or didn't complete all that before she was born in 1994, then she would have had to be naturalized.

    There was a lot of scrambling around the years around the transition.
  26. DaiKozOda

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    :wideeyes::dog::scream::(:(:eek::eek::(:slinkaway:huh::lynch::argue::wall::soapbox::angryfire:duh:

    This sums my reaction to this
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  27. Tesla

    Tesla Whippet Good

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    At least the off-season won't be as boring. :watch:
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    I want Elena Ilinyhk to win all of the things. That is all that I want.

    This is the worst announcement in years.
  29. Zemgirl

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    That's more partner swapping than in the Russian TV ice shows :watch:

    But seriously, what where they all thinking? And did everyone accept the first person who offered a partnership?
  30. Bue

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    Yep. It's rare that the off season is more exciting than the actual season!

    Does anyone have any insight into how this would have been engineered? I never believed the I/K rumour (more fool me) but the straight swap is even more surprising.

    For some reason I am hating the concept of the I/Z partnership.
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  32. love_skate2011

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    plus Ruslan looks like a malnourished srummy little kid who needs to build muscles
    hopefully the inevitable for Sinitsina wont happen :duh:
  33. Andrey aka Pushkin

    Andrey aka Pushkin Brezina's Nemesis

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    Even the horror of break up of 3 great couples (Ilyinyh/Katsalapov, Sinitsina/Zhiganshin and Zabiako/Zaboev... as for Bazarova/Larionov... meh :blah: ) can't overcome the amusement I'm going to have seeing Diva-Ilyinyh skating with heavy blue eyeshadows, fake hair extensions and long heavy skirts with a huge rose on the butt.
  34. AYS

    AYS Cruder than you thought

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    :eek: :watch: Thanks for posting TAHbKA.
  35. skategal

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    If we didn't just have April Fools day, I would be sure this thread was an April Fools joke.

    Truth is stranger than fiction in this case...
  36. hanca

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    So let me get this straight. Larionov gets rid of Bazarova with who he was achieving for the last few years around 6th or 7th place at worlds/Olympics and then instead of going Maisuradze's route (picking any 'under-average' Russian junior girl who has 'only' three of four triples (which is currently not enough for any Russian junior lady to be competitive) he finds a partner who has been achieving 19th place in the SP and not qualifying into the FS at worlds. Well, good luck with that! I am curious if he ever attends another Europeans/worlds, given the level of pair competition in Russia. At this moment Volosozhar-Trankov and Stolbova-Klimov sits firmly on first two spots, so the fight will be for the last spot, and there is Antipova-Maisuradze, maybe Kavaguti-Smirnov (if they don't retire), Tarasova-Morozov and 4 other pairs moving up from juniors. (I didn't count Gerboldt-Enbert because they haven't shown us anything note worthy for the last few years). I really can't see how Larionov imagines that they will beat all those pairs to grab the third spot. Well, never mind. He was nothing special anyway so I won't miss him.

    ETA: Unless he plans to switch the citizenship and skate for Estonia?
  37. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Maybe Zabijako has untapped potential that is not yet evident? She can land a clean 3T (2014 Worlds & Euros SP).

    ETA: TAHbKA posted in the B/L split thread that Z/L plan to represent Russia (after sitting out a season). Yes, it would make much more sense for Z/L to represent Estonia.
  38. parapluies

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    What we learned from this is the anonymous Russian source is always right.;)
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  39. Messalina

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    This is crazy. I am in total shock since I thought all of our :violin::drama: here over the unverified rumors was just that. Never dreamt this was all really going to happen.

    I am still scratching my head over the fact that the Olympic Bronze Medalists split up after their biggest result yet. What?!

    Also, maybe P/B should reconsider that retirement of theirs. I wouldn't mind. :)

    I agree. Elena for everything! I hope Ruslan endeavors to deserve her.

    But what a sad state of affairs in Russia and Estonia.
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  40. Vash01

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    So the rumors were true. At first sight:

    Winners: Sinitsina, Yuri and his new partner, zhiganshin, Bobrova & Soloviev
    Losers: Elena, Nikita, and hopefully Morozov
    Vera: tbd until we know the specifics

    What a disaster in Russia after a very successful Olympics!

    I will root for Elena in every competition. I hope she will be successful in every competition.

    How on earth did the RSF agree to this circus?
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