Icelandic Volcano Causes European Flight Cancellations

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  1. allezfred

    allezfred Prick Admin Staff Member

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    Just in case anyone is planning to fly in, out or over the UK today, flights have been suspended until 8pm tonight.

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  2. RomyNL

    RomyNL Well-Known Member

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    Amsterdam Airport is closing down as well...
  3. equatorial

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    Iceland should be declared a rogue nation and part of Axis of Evil. First a bank collapse wiping out savings across Europe, now a volcano grounding European flights. Enough is enough! Memo to the UN: Discuss.
  4. GarrAarghHrumph

    GarrAarghHrumph I can kill you with my brain

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    Flights are now suspended until 6am Friday morning, British time. It's possible it could go longer, and/or have sporadic cancellations as the ash clears. Scandinavian area flights are also impacted.

    ETA: Now they're saying that it's possible all flights will also be cancelled on Friday. Possibly also Saturday.

    Flights headed from the US to the UK have been turned back in mid-flight.
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  5. GarrAarghHrumph

    GarrAarghHrumph I can kill you with my brain

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    I've heard that the Irish airports have also cancelled flights in an out. Is that the case?
  6. Gil-Galad

    Gil-Galad Well-Known Member

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    All flights over Netherlands, Belgium and Northern Germany cancelled.
  7. marbri

    marbri Hey, Kool-Aid!

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    Well you know there is no C in the Icelandic alphabet so when the British were asking for more Cash all we had to send them was some ash :p
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  8. UMBS Go Blue

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    Re: GarrArgh: Airports all over Europe are shutting down; a graphic at the bottom of Allezfred's article link shows how the ash plume is spreading all over Scandinavia, UK, and northern mainland Europe. Here's another graphic from the Guardian that's annotated with airport closings all over Europe.

    FGRSK8 can opine far more informedly about weather and climatology than I can, but I'd assume if the ash cloud is significant enough (as in the Mount Pinatubo eruption), it would cause brilliant sunsets in Europe in the immediate near term, and could also lead to a temporary reduction in global temperatures that could have significant, wide-ranging short-term (several months to a year) effects for weather and climate in unknown nooks and crannies of the world. If indeed significant, the effects on climate would, in turn, have unknown yet profound economic effects.

    From this random link:
    The link goes on to say how the 1992 Mount Pinatubo eruption did indeed result in lowered global temperatures for a year or so.
  9. allezfred

    allezfred Prick Admin Staff Member

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    Yes.
  10. skipaway

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    Brilliant...:rofl:
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  11. Buzz

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    Oh dear! :lol:
  12. marbri

    marbri Hey, Kool-Aid!

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    I just paraphrased and plagiarized a local joke ;)


    eta...the last time this volcano went off it lasted two years and according to history whenever this one goes off Katla follows. Katla is the volcano most people there would worry about. Not that it matters much to people but maybe something to keep in mind if planning a last minute trip that there could be more disruptions over some time depending on where the wind blows. Amusing to me is the only airport open in Northern Europe at this time is the one in Reykjavik :lol:
  13. skipaway

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    Still...thanks for telling it. :)
  14. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    Wow, that's amazing!
  15. UMBS Go Blue

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    OK, not quite Pinatubo-magnitude yet according to another article I found. But if the volcano keeps on going, and triggers Katla, as marbri mentioned, then we might see some real climate effects.

    But, yes, if there are measurable intermediate term climate effects (i.e. cold winters the next year or two), then you can easily imagine the consequences: more snowfall and/or coldness --> more demand for heating oil --> less people venturing out to shop in the cold --> lost productivity/GDP than what would have otherwise occurred, etc. etc.

    ETA: Another article on (possible) climate impact.
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  16. Nan

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    Any guesses on how long this will impact flights going into and out of London?
  17. NancyNC

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    I am stuck in London and depressed. :( I have been here all week on business and I'm really really ready to go home... Looks like I will have at least one day and possibly more for the sightseeing I rarely get to do during my trips here. But I want to go home!!! :wall:
  18. GarrAarghHrumph

    GarrAarghHrumph I can kill you with my brain

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    At least through Saturday, maybe longer?
  19. Nan

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    Certainly no more than a week, though, right? :confused:

    I have a flight into London in about a month and if I miss this trip with my daughter, there will be no consoling her. :wall:
  20. GarrAarghHrumph

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    It depends on how long the volcano goes, and the direction of the winds during that time. Right now they think maybe two days, but say it depends on what the volcano does next.
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  21. Catherine M

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    Sorry to hear that you are stuck.

    A coworker is in Paris right now and I hope she'll be able to fly home on Saturday as scheduled as she does not handle stress very well!
  22. allezfred

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    I wouldn't count on her being able to fly. Air France has cancelled all flights in and out of Paris tomorrow morning. It's going to have an effect on Saturdays flights one way or the other.
  23. Catherine M

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    Figured as much. She's going to be a basket case. Oh well, at least she is safe and that's all that counts.
  24. Lacey

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    Wow, this is a mess.

    Has it happened before that airports and cross Atlantic flights were cancelled?

    Probably a stupid question: why can't everyone fly to Spain and east out of there?
  25. genevieve

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    Because they can't fly to Spain?
  26. Lacey

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    You mean it's all over Europe, I thought it was just in their flight paths over Iceland to or from US. Sorry, didn't get that.
  27. Hanna

    Hanna Wheeeeeeeeeee

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    Since I don't have to fly anywhere... I'm :inavoid: about the amazing forces of nature. I just find it astonishing. The volcano is erupting and there's nothing the 6,000,000+ people in the world can do about it. Planet Earth is just such a beautiful and wonderful thing.

    Signed, a physical geography student ;)
    (I admit it's easy for me to say when it's not affecting me negatively)

    OTOH, my parents are not so excited about it. They were supposed to be flying to Madeira tomorrow morning but not gonna happen now.
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  28. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Port de bras!!!

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    That would be just about as useful as most other UN discussions. :yawn:
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    See I don't know
    I don't know
    I don't know where I'm a gonna go
    When the volcano blow

    No time to count what I'm worth
    Hey I just left the planet earth
    But a' where I go I hope there's rum
    Not to worry, more soon come
  30. allezfred

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    Ireland, the UK, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Russia, etc.

    The hilarious thing is that Reykjavik Airport is open so you can fly from there to the US because the wind is blowing the volcanic ash east. :lol:

    ETA: BBC now showing programme that may or may not be called "Top 10 Volcanoes....Ever". :rofl:
  31. cruisin

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    Right now Spanish airports are open, but for how long?

    I am :eek::mad::(. I am supposed to leave for Italy next Thursday. If this keeps up :(. We fly through Frankfurt.
  32. allezfred

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    Why the :mad: ? You'd prefer that the planes fly, but potentially into clouds of volcanic ash and the engines stop? :confused:

    Bit of perspective here people. Planes aren't flying for a reason. Sucks that you can't get home or go on holiday, but you're alive.
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  33. cruisin

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    Are you for real? Obviously I wouldn't want the planes to fly if it were not safe. But, excuse me for being disappointed if my plans get screwed up and I lose a lot of money.
  34. GarrAarghHrumph

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    For 9/11 yes. But other than that, nothing this large, no.
  35. AragornElessar

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    I heard on the news tonight this could end up keeping quite a few of the World Leaders who were planning on attending the State Funeral in Poland on Monday from being there.

    My cousin is a Air Traffic Controller at Pearson. I bet he had quite the unusual work day today.
  36. skatemommy

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    When flights get cancelled, the previous passengers get priority so this could dump people off of flights way into next week. So glad no planes flew into this cloud of doom, worse than a flock of birds.
  37. ballettmaus

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    Last I heard, Frankfurt was still open. Berlin and Hamburg are shut down. Could have changed by now though.
    But there's plenty of time until next Thursday :)
  38. marbri

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    I think that depends on the airline?
  39. milanessa

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    I blame Canada.
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  40. 4rkidz

    4rkidz GPF Barcelona here I come

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    Chad the CNN weather guy said tonight this could last for weeks because of the jet stream - causing a circular type motion which would stop the ash from moving eastward away - and dissipate.. oh dear :( May effect flights for quite a while if the jet stream doesn't move..