Ice Age is back again

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  1. vivika1982

    vivika1982 Well-Known Member

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    After almost two years break RSOI a.k.a. Ice Age is back.
    The new season will be aired on September 8.

    Alexander Zhulin and Ilia Averbukh are the coaches .
    Alexey Yagudin and Irina Slutskaya will be leading the project.
    The performances will be judged by T.Tarasova, Tchulpan Khamatova, Mikhail Boyarskyi, Pavel Bure and Sergei Shakurov
    The skaters :
    Tatyna Navka and Roman Kostomarov , Albena Denkova and Maxim Sataviski ,Margarita Drobiazko and Povilas Vanagas, Maria Petrova and Alexey Tikhonov , Tatyana Totmyanina and Maxim Marinin , Oksana Domnina and Maxim Shabalin,Yana Khokhlova and Peter Tchernishev.

    The celebrities that will join the battle:
    Alexey Yashin, Artem Mikhalkov, Lyanka Griy,Marusya Zuykova, Nyusha,Ekaterina Spitsa, Peter Kislov,Oskar Kuchera, Askold Zapashin, Vladimir Yaglitch, Irina Medvedeva,Yulia Zimnina, AnitaTsoyi

    http://www.vokrug.tv/article/show/L...a_hochet_katatsya_s_Nikitoi_Mihalkovym_39536/
    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26125.2/3017534/

    Photo report from the trainings
    http://altapress.ru/kultpohod/photoreport/show/id/303

    I guess the first episodes are already recorded but we have to wait until September 8-th:
    http://yar.kp.ru/photo/51301/920025/

    On the happy note: during the show Maxim Shabalin announces the birth of his daughter. She was born in Spain in July .
    http://argumenti.ru/showbiz/2013/09/281430
     
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    List of all pairs and very small info about the non-professional skaters :

    1.Roman Kostomarov-Maroussia Zykova(actress)
    2.Alexei Tikhonov-Anita Tsoi (actress and singer)
    3.Maxim Marinin -Lyanka Gryu (actress)
    4.Povilas Vanagas- Irina Medvedeva (actress and singer)
    5.Maxim Stavisky- Ekaterina Spitza (actress)
    6.Peter Chernyshev - Julia Zimina(actress)
    7.Maxim Shabalin- Nyusha (singer)
    8.Tatiana Navka - Artem Mikhalkov(acter and son of Nikita Mikhalkov))
    9.Margarita Drobyazko - Alexei Yashin(hokey)
    10.Tatyna Totmyanina-Oskar Kuchera(acter and musician)
    11.Jana Khokhlova - Dmitry Khrustalyov(acter and showmen)
    12.Albena Denkova - Peter Kyslov(acter)
    13.Maria Petrova - Askold Zapashnyy(handler)
    14.Oksana Domnina - Vladimir Yaglych(acter)
     
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    Thank you for the informations! I´m looking forward to these shows and hope there will be links to the programs as well as many photos etc. :D
     
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    Thank you so very much for the info and all the links, Vivika (and thank you, too, DaiKozOda). I was wondering whether there would be another season of Ice Age. It's sooo good to see that Denkove/Staviski and Drobiazko/Vanagas are again taking part! I love to see them skate, and they have always succeeded in teaching their celebrity partners how to skate!
    It's all skating this season, isn't it? (I'm asking because two years ago, they gave it a try with Modern Dance/Ballet on the floor, too, alternating skating and dancing every other week. I thought that was very interesting to watch).
     
  7. vivika1982

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    Yes. The show will follow the usual routine : all pairs skating/competing, then after few episodes the pair with lowest scores will be eliminated and etc. etc....
    I tried to translate the part were Averbukh talks about the format of he show

    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26125.2/3017534/

     
  8. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    I wonder how Zhulin will balance this project with coaching. This is his time to prove that it will not interfere.
     
  9. vivika1982

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    Lets wait and see but I wonder what B/S will do or won't.As for Zhulin he'll be involved with the project until New Year I guess and he'll handle his coaching the same way he did before :) :in tandem with Volkov, with the help of Staviski and other skater. He doesn't have to be with his competing teams all the time .
     
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    Shabalin is still skating on those knees? I guess professional skating such as this won't put too much wear and tear on the knees.
     
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    Videos from Ep 1:

    All Videos: http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchiver/pr=31154&pg=1


    1.Roman Kostomarov-Maroussia Zykova(actress)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66507&p=31154
    2.Alexei Tikhonov-Anita Tsoi (actress and singer)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66517&p=31154
    3.Maxim Marinin -Lyanka Gryu (actress)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66503
    4.Povilas Vanagas- Irina Medvedeva (actress and singer)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66511&p=31154
    5.Maxim Stavisky- Ekaterina Spitza (actress)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66491&p=31154
    6.Peter Chernyshev - Julia Zimina(actress)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66499
    7.Maxim Shabalin- Nyusha (singer)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66495
    8.Tatiana Navka - Artem Mikhalkov(acter and son of Nikita Mikhalkov)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66509&p=31154
    9.Margarita Drobyazko - Alexei Yashin(hokey)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66505
    10.Tatyna Totmyanina-Oskar Kuchera(acter and musician)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66513&p=31154
    11.Jana Khokhlova - Dmitry Khrustalyov(acter and showmen)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66497&p=31154
    12.Albena Denkova - Peter Kyslov(acter)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66493&p=31154
    13.Maria Petrova - Askold Zapashnyy(handler)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66501
    14.Oksana Domnina - Vladimir Yaglych(acter)
    http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchive/66515&p=31154[/QUOTE]
     
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    Yes thanks for this! Have not seen the whole program yet but at first, I hardly recognized Peter T. Seeing Jana made me think of how much time has passed by as it seemed not that long ago when she was trying to skate with Fedor. Did he ever recover from his injuries? Seems he only coaches now. Shabalin looks like he may have a small brace or something like that on one or both knees and I noticed at least twice he seemed to have a little trouble moving the knee (or the leg?) to get up from a kneeling position. Perhaps, like it has been mentioned, this kind of skating and the pace are tolerable for him with some sort of new brace or whatnot on his knees. It would be interesting to know what he is using that is working for him.
    I just hope that he isn't making things more painful in the long-run or ending up with even more surgery.
     
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    Teams,music and scores for Episode 1
    Petrova/Zapashnyi-Gary Jules – “Mad World” – 11.46
    Shabalin/Nyusha-Alicia Keys –“ Brand New Me” – 11.54
    Staviski/Spitsa-Zaz – “Je veux”-11.56
    Denkova/Kislov-Cirque du Soleil - "Vai Vedrai" – 11.62
    Tchernishev/Zimina- ???Cesaria Evora “Historia de un Amor” – 11.62
    Domnina/Yaglych- Ocean Elzy – “This is how you” (Океан Ельзи – Така як ти) – 11.64
    Drobiazko/Yashin-“Driving on triple”( Ехали на тройке) – 11.68
    Navka/Mikhalkov-Hazmat Modine – “Bahamut” – 11.70
    Totmynina/Kuchera-Joe Cocker – “You Can Leave Your Hat On”– 11.78
    Kostomarov/Zykova- Zemfira – “Living in your head”( Земфира – Жить в твоей голове) – 11.78
    Khokhlova /Khrustalev-Elvis Presley & Ann-Margret – “You’re The Boss” - 11.80
    Tikhonov/Tsoy-Fun – We Are Young– 11.82
    Marinin/Gryu-Jennifer Damiano – “If The World Should End”– 11.84
    Vanagas/Medvedeva- Vladimir Presnyakov – “There's no me “(Владимир Пресняков - Там нет меня) – 11.86

    Like the Episode but to be honest after "Cup of the Professionals" i am not so trilled .I mean i'll watch it because of the skaters ,but on a silly note, i wish Averbukh and company could create something like annual professional competition besides "Ice Age". I understand the goal is to revive the popularity of figure skating but is sad to think that celebrities(not the champions) are being used to do that JMHO.
     
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    Thank you both for the news and links. :)
     
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    Yes, I agree. Cup of the Professionals was so much better. I'm not very happy to have to watch celebrities who cannot skate, when in Russia they have "celebrities" who are figure skating champions. How does that promote the sport?
     
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    It doesn't :) but promotes the ratings of Russian Chanel 1.ITA that after so many Ice Age shows the skaters are even more recognizable and famous now but maybe is not enough and celebs/artists/showmen still attract more audience. Anyway since the good skating is not so appreciated, the show in this format gives cakes to the crowd and bread to the skaters. Just my humble figure skating fan opinion :)
    Back to the topic and the show : so far not so many dangerous hops,lifts and drops and Anita Tsoy was the only watchable non-profi skater .
     
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    I liked Tsoy very much and I find it surprising that she isn't leading straight away. But since I've watched the other seasons of the show, I've learned that it is better not to pay attention to the scores because it is not a real competition anyway...:p
    Gryu & Marinin and Medvedeva & Vanagas were very nice as well.
    Just wonder how many of these programs will inspire Zhulin for competition. Afterall he transformed some ideas from Ice Age into real programs. I remember he choreographed Kazanova & Kostomarov and then picked the exact same music to Bobrova & Soloviev (2012/2013 FD). He also included some Arntgolts & Staviski moves in "Requiem for a dream" choreo in Bobrova & Soloviev's FD.
    I don't know how much this kind of shows may help figure skating but you wouldn't believe how many people i know, who didn't pay attention to it at all, started to wonder about the sport after having watched Ice Age. To me the main appeal is to be able to keep watching skaters like Tikhonov, Tchernyshev and Vanagas whom I love.
     
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    I agree. Thanks so much for the links and information.
     
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    This 'Skating with Celebrities' format must have been quite a success among the Russian TV viewers since Averbukh could find sponsors for a new similar project. It's really great that Averbukh can give jobs to the skaters every or nearly every season.

    I'd give a couple of extra points to Khokhlova/Khrustalyov in this competition because Jana's partner seems to be able to do some skating on his own and looks much less scared to be on the ice than most of the other non-skaters. lol

    I'm amused to see that Zhulin is involved in a new Ice Age because I clearly remember Piseev a couple of years ago wanted Zhulin to choose between coaching/choreographing for money and working for the glory of the country. lol
     
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    I agree that the show brought some creative programs into competitive figure skating and that the main appeal is the opportunity to watch the skaters. What I wanted to say is that they've tried this before , then made season with celebrities who won and had some decent skating skills and finally came with Cup of the professionals which was great. They should have either stop or continue with the Cup with more skaters from all over the world because this season compared to the last two is more downgrading but lets watch and see.
    First behind the scene video for this season from Petrova and Tikhonov:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPf3--Oj-uQ
     
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    LaKhok :wuzrobbed
    this should have been her season.
     
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    Episode 2-Music from 50,60 ad 70-s
    1.Shabalin/Nyusha-11.62-“Girls standing aside”-Maria Pakhomenko(Мария Пахоменко- Стоят девчонки)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZAl3yeeFYw
    2.Marinin/Gryu-11.84-“Lilies of the Valley”-Gelena Velikanova(Ландыши" - Гелена Великанова)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwtuSJ9UzQM
    3.Khokhlova/Khrustalev-11.82-“Susana”-Adriano Celentano
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J38pvKGI8xU
    4.Navka/Mikhalkov-11.96-Blue bird and Sergei Drozdov-“Where maple rustles” (Синяя птица и Сергеи Дроздов - Там где клён шумит)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wGS8yvO8E
    5.Staviskii/Spitsa-11.96-Alexander Losev and The Flowers-"My bright starlet" (Александр Лосев &Цветы -Звездочка моя ясная)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqDghB_aA5E
    6.Tchernishov/Zimina-11.78-Perez Prado-"Tico tico tic"-instrumental version
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYlg3BtG9ds
    7.Vanagas/Medvedeva- 11.78-Dzhingis Khan-“Moskau”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjGmmOQHZWI
    8.Tikhonov/Tsoy-11.86-Valerii Obodzinakii-“These eyes in front of me”( Валерий Ободзинский Эти глаза напротив)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjEhH32_EBE
    9.Kostomarov/Zykova-11.76-Boney M-“Daddy Cool”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiYT2K4Isog
    10.Totmyanina/Kuchera-11.82 -Blue Bird-“So that’s what you are”(Синяя птица - Так вот какая ты)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGzwskQ_aYc
    11.Domnina/Yaglych-11.82- Muslim Magomaev-“Golden ray of sunlight” (Муслим Магомаев- Луч солнца золотого)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFo1inLvLkg
    12.Denkova/Kislev-11.84- Trio Meridian-“Waltz of loneliness” (Tрио "Меридиан"- Вальс одиночества)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvVOFbJ9c0c
    13.Petrova/Zapashnyi-11.86-Chris Isaak-“Besame Mucho”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yZSfwsSmH8
    14.Drobiazko/Yashin- 11.84-Yurii Antonov-“Don’t die Love”(Юрий Антонов"Не умирай любовь")
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPN5Cib_7bM

    Episode 2 on Chanel 1:
    http://www.1tv.ru/prj/ice/vypusk/25682

    Nice Episode.Almost everybody made progress and looked better :)
     
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    Navka and Zhulin are divorced. Do they still have a good relationship.