I get it now...

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by arakwafan2006, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. arakwafan2006

    arakwafan2006 Active Member

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    So, I always knew the World Pro Champ Paul Wylie. I never saw this performance before. Wow... when you watch the reaction of the woman at http://youtu.be/SzB4Cn8MNSw?t=4m29s its easy to see that especially in the mens event, no one is moving audiences like this anymore. So, with the US Nationals almost upon us, how appropiate this performance



    http://youtu.be/SzB4Cn8MNSw
     
  2. kwanatic

    kwanatic Well-Known Member

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    When I think of moving performances at nationals, this epic performance is just :cheer::swoon:. They blew the roof off of Philips Arena that night...:respec: Just listen to the audience...it's incredible.
     
  3. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    That has to be the absolute fastest that a non-Kwan thread has ever turned into a Kwan thread. :D
     
  4. kwanatic

    kwanatic Well-Known Member

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    ^^Oh you know it! I was going for the record! Did I get it? :p

    But to be fair, the thread mentioned moving performances at nationals...who has more than Michelle Kwan?
     
  5. skateboy

    skateboy Well-Known Member

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    Damn, I was hoping to talk about Paul Wylie. Oh well.
     
  6. falling_dance

    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    Wylie's short program at 1990 US Nats wasn't bad either. ;)

    I'm wondering when it ceased to be permissible to repeat the same triple jump in the men's short program. Wylie's short had two lutzes, one of which was in combination (of course).
     
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  7. gkelly

    gkelly Well-Known Member

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    The following year.
    As you see, Wylie did two triple lutzes.
    At Worlds that year, Browning, Petrenko, and Eldredge did two triple axels, as well as the required double axel. So not much variety in jump takeoffs :

    As of 1991 season, it was no longer allowed to repeat the same jump (i.e., same takeoff and same number of revolutions) in two different short program jump elements.

    Remember that up through 1988 the jump out of steps was a specified double, and there was also a specified double jump in the combination.

    Beginning with 1989 season, the jump out of steps was not specified and men were required to do a triple for that element. Hence the repeats between solo jump and combination.

    IIRC in the 80s we did see some women doing double axel combinations as well as solo double axels and whatever the required double out of steps was that year.
     
  8. arakwafan2006

    arakwafan2006 Active Member

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    You can say that again.

    That short program was terriffic
     
  9. Skate Talker

    Skate Talker Well-Known Member

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    Thanks gkelly. I have often wondered about this too but I knew it was during Kurt's era because it immediately reduced his possible difficulty because he could not do the 3L so the change was not in his favour. At 90 Worlds he would have been in big trouble since he muffed his first attempt at the 3A combo and had to add it to his solo 3A at the end. Is that why the rule changed - joking.
     
  10. A.H.Black

    A.H.Black Well-Known Member

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    Now compare 1990 with 1989 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFo9lv2t-tk and 1991 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlW2BMj8jxQ

    Same program, 3 different years. 1991 and 1990 are about equal for me. Neither is perfect but both are wonderful. 1991's costume is much better which is sort of a big deal to me. Speaking of the costume; in person it was actually blue with green buttons. I guess the contrast made the buttons more visible on TV.

    It's too bad there isn't a video of Pauls 1991 short program at Nationals. He skated to The Right Stuff. That program wasn't seen many times and Nationals was by far the best performance of it. It had a killer step sequence. I have a video of it but no way to post it.
     
  11. Sasha'sSpins

    Sasha'sSpins Well-Known Member

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    Same here. :shuffle:
     
  12. Lacey

    Lacey Well-Known Member

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    My all time favorite skater, and yes, he did interact with and play to the crowd.
     
  13. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

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    OMG, I've never noticed that (I didn't follow US Nats at this time !).
    That's a shame to have 3 years in a row the same LP.
    Anyway, his performances were always great, even with the mistakes, he knew how to skate and give everything to the crowd.
     
  14. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    Many skaters did the same thing.

    One of the qualities that I've always loved about Paul is that his programs had "purpose", intent, and a point-of-view.
    His skating reflected that.
     
  15. DarrellH

    DarrellH New Member

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    Well, you know...Paul Wylie DOES know Michelle, so maybe that counts?:D

    I remember screaming for joy at the TV, watching Paul at the Olympics!
     
  16. kwanette

    kwanette Fetalized since 1998

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    Well said. He skated with intelligence.
     
  17. DinDonShamu

    DinDonShamu New Member

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    :rofl: :rofl:
     
  18. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    When a skater is able to do that, the audience feels it, and responds,
     
  19. Jasmar

    Jasmar Active Member

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    I always appreciated his skating, but was never a fan of the Big Movie Soundtrack program… but when I saw him skate an intricate, introspective piece choreographed by Lar Lubovitch in SOI (Jan. 97), I became an uber.
     
  20. Wyliefan

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    Was that the Bach program? I got to see that live, too. He did a fantastic job with it.
     
  21. Jasmar

    Jasmar Active Member

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    Yeah - that's the one! LOVED it. I wish he had done more stuff like that.