Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Gypsy, Feb 6, 2012.
Fire kills husband of missing Utah woman, 2 boys
This story totally broke my heart. Can't imagine the agony Susan Powell's parents are going through.
So tragic. I know that he was never charged or convicted of a crime, but those kids should never have been in his care -- supervised visits or not.
What a shame. There are no words - this was cruel and selfish.
I guess what he really proved is that both of those statements were patently untrue. Those poor little boys.
The social worker - my first reaction was- if only she had kept them by her side. My second reaction - if she had then she would probably be dead too. From the details given it seems pretty clear he was going to carry out this explosion no matter what. In fact I am somewhat surprised he didn't make sure she was included in the blast.
Wow, this is really a terrible tragedy I had a gut feeling he was behind Susan's death, and shouldn't be trusted with those kids...It's too bad there wasn't enough evidence to convict him for Susan's disappearance. My heart goes out to Susan's family.
Those poor children!
What a monster their father was.
My sympathy to the Cox family; and to all the people who tried to protect the boys.
They are suffering terrible guilt.
This makes it sound like the social worker was not doing her job. According to the paper here (this took place outside of Seattle) - Josh Powell grabbed the kids from her as soon as they arrived, slammed the door in her face and locked it. She called 911 immediately.
Clearly this was premeditated. What a vile act that this worthless slime killed his children (in addition to probably killing his wife) instead of just committing suicide.
I can't imagine what Susan Powell's parents must be going through.
This is a nightmare of epic proportions.
I had to read the headline over and over before I could even grasp it. What a tragedy.
There have been some articles reporting that one of the children was beginning to talk about his mom's disappearance - telling people about a camping trip where (paraphrasing) mommy was in the trunk and then she disappeared.
This guy knew his number was up and so the coward took those kids with him. I like to believe they are with their mom again and he's in his special hell.
When I read the story, I immediately thought of the Zachary Bagby case in Canada. If you've never seen the documentary, Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father, this case is similar.
I hope Josh Powell rots in hell.
That movie was so heart wrenching. It definitely comes to mind.
That documentary was so sad that I cried all day after watching it!
That ASShole didn't have to take those baby boys with him. Those poor little boys.
The articles are varied - one says the kids ran out of the car as soon as she pulled up at the curb. They were already inside when she reached the front door. Another article said he pulled the kids inside and blocked the social worker from entering before locking the door.
I guess he figured an adult would notice the gasoline smell right away (which she did) but the kids wouldn't notice or interfere. He was probably afraid she'd be able to stop him or get the kids back out if he didn't shut her outside. The kids were excited, so they did what kids do - hurry ahead.
The social worker was lucky she went back to the car to phone her supervisor or she could have been caught in the blast. I don't blame her for the situation, but apparently she (or he?) is traumatized.
Well. That answers whether or not HE was involved in his wife's disappearance.
FigureSpins: I would think the social worker would be traumatized. I hope s/he is on paid leave and gets some therapy time. What a thing to witness, even setting aside the 'there but for the grace of God' aspect.
Absolutely! If the social worker WASN'T traumatized, I'd be concerned about his/her health. I just meant that it was reported by the agency that s/he was traumautized.
It's come up on my Netflix recommendations list a bunch of times, so after reading this thread earlier I decided to watch it.
Absolutely heartwrenching, and at times hard to watch. I definitely recommend it.
Josh Powell deserves whatever he gets in the afterlife, if there is such a thing. I can't imagine how anyone would want to kill their own children. It just boggles the mind.
And I, too, hope that social worker is on paid leave and being offered the help she undoubtedly needs. I don't think this was her fault at all.
if any access - it should have been supervised at a facility that follows the SVN guidelines.. thus ensuring the children could visit their father in a safe setting, with safety protocols and trained staff..
She is very fortunate to be alive, he was clearly determined to do this no matter what.
unfortunately most of the lethalities over the past couple of years of children in Supervised visitation situations have been when done in the community or in the home and not in a secure setting with trained staff.. seriously if the parent needs to be supervised it should be in a safe setting not in a home..
Awful. Just thinking about how he killed those two innocent children makes me sick to my stomach. And my heart goes out to Susan's grandparents, who lost not only their child but now their two grandchildren because of this monster. If there was even a shred of doubt that he killed her, it's gone now.
I hope the social worker gets the support and help she needs. What a terrible thing to go through.
To those sweet boys and their mother (who is surely gone) RIP together. To Dad: unless you had some mental illness you are one selfish, cruel Pr...nevermind. And many, many hugs and blessings to the grandparents and everyone who loved that family (dad included.)
this is on the news right now...apparently both boys had multiple hatchet wounds on their necks and torsos...but that the blows didn't kill them, carbon monoxide poisoning (from the fire) did.
I did too. I have never cried so hard because of a film in my life, and I definitely recommend it to everyone. I came away from it devastated but so admiring of the grandparents, who have been through so much but remain so strong.
These kinds of acts leave me completely speechless. What he did is just unspeakably evil. I don't know what else can be said.
My immediate gut reaction was "he did this to get back at his in-laws and social services".
My second reaction was to hope they continue their child porn case against his father. Since his arrest, I've always wondered if he was connected in any way to Susan's disappearance.
Good Lord!!! Too bad he died because prisoners are parents too and he would have deserved everything they would have done to him. The Cox family must be in hell right now. My prayers go out to them.
Which means that they died in agony and pain.
I can't stop crying for those two little boys.
My heart & prayers goes out to the family & the worker.
Yes, and I suspect he did it simply to cause that much more pain to Suan Powell's family. Pure evil.
Yup. F**king lowlife pig.
Just horrific and tragic. It brought back to my mind the local murder-suicide from 2009, where a father killed his two young sons and then hanged himself during an unsupervised visitation. His wife had tried unsuccessfully to have his access to the boys limited. The legal system truly failed this family, too.
I just read about the hatcheting now...and he loved his sons???? Good grief, what a monster.
I hope that disgusting man rots in hell, and I don't say that about many people. What a horrific, sick thing to do to your own children. I can't stop thinking about how scared those kids must have been.
I wish Susan had gotten away from this monster before it was too late for her and her kids RIP.
Conversely, maybe the blows rendered them unconscious. We can hope, at least.
Even if that was true, he had to do it to one kid first and then the other one afterward. It's just unimaginable.
The Westboro Baptist church will be at the memorial service for the boys on Saturday because apparently the gay marriage bill just passed up here caused Josh to kill the boys , and Occupy Seattle will be there to counterprotest. No link because I'm on my phone, but I'm sure you can find something at SeattleTimes.com.
My uncharitable comment is that it's too bad it wasn't some of the hate-filled Westboro church gang who were in that burning house, instead of those two poor innocent boys.
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