Gymnastics News No.12 Part Deux!

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  1. MR-FAN

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    I just loved his legs! Stuck together every second of every performance even in slow-mo. The was very apparent during horizontal bar, rings and vault in the AA, and floor exercise in the event finals (where he wuzrobbed :p . And he has this aura about him just like Mustafina. When the camera zooms on him, you feel greatness that only radiates from people knowing how great they are. confidence, but not arrogance. And the point of his toes! Never an ugly or sloppy position unless he screws up, and even then somehow it still looks elegant!

    No comment on parallel bars though, I NEVER understood this event :slinkaway
     
  2. floskate

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    Thank you for this. This sums up exactly what makes Mustafina so special. :respec: Glad she called Alexandrov on the Rodionenko's article. Maybe that gave her extra motivation?
     
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  3. Hedwig

    Hedwig Rarely here anymore but I try to be better!

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    The article is certainly interesting.
    I was so disappointed with Grishina as well. Interesting how she trains and how much her mother seems to be part of it.

    And I did not know that Oleg Ostapenko was back in Russia. I thought he was still with the Brasilian team?
    I will always love him for Podkopayeva so I am glad to hear that he is back in the Russian program (or for him not really back as he used to be in the Ukrainian program but you know what I mean).
     
  4. gingercrush

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    I just hope Grishina doesn't get the Dementyeva treatment and finds herself locked out of worlds etc. Yes she was disappointing but she has so much potential as well.

    Gymnastics really wasn't good for the newcomers. Iordache, Grishina and Ross to a far lesser extent (hit in team final but didn't make event finals) all disappointed.
     
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  5. Loves_Shizuka

    Loves_Shizuka Gettin' my sass out

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    Ross performed fairly well IMO; it's just her best (UB and BB) were quite stacked to begin with... well UB was lol. The UB final was very high quality. I think her time is yet to come and some perhaps were slighlty overrating her indiviudal chances.

    Grishina WAS disappointing.

    Wasn't there some trouble betwen Ostapenko and the Brazilian fed? Another poster here was saying he basically got kicked out.
     
  6. Hedwig

    Hedwig Rarely here anymore but I try to be better!

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    Yes, I remember that - but I thought he was let in again?

    But now it seems like he was in charge of Russian juniors (and maybe even the Senior team?) since a while.

    I would love to have more details if anyone knows more about it.
    I am very fangirly about the Russian team right now. :eek: :slinkaway:
     
  7. bek

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    Oleg was in charge with the Russian Juniors but they got rid of him.. And Alexandrov clearly wasn't happy about it. He's now back in Brazil.
     
  8. Loves_Shizuka

    Loves_Shizuka Gettin' my sass out

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    Just digging around it seems some Brazilian millionaire talked Ostapenko into going back to Brazil in preparation for Rio :sekret:
     
  9. Hedwig

    Hedwig Rarely here anymore but I try to be better!

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    Ah, okay - so he is back in Brasil already? That is a pity for Russia but good for Brasil of course.
     
  10. skfan

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    thank you, MR-FAN, for explaining. i will re-watch and see if i can see all the details you pointed out. i definitely appreciated the absence of sloppy form, but i'm not sure to what extent that nullifies my sense of uneasiness watching him. i don't know what it is that made me instantly decide i'm on his (uchimura's) side, but it's something irrational, probably, because i already favored him, even before i saw the youtube vids of him looking much more sure-footed in 2011. maybe it's that aura you've pointed out :)


    i hope someone answers your q's about when the major gym events are held, etc. maybe someone who truly knows gymnastics will link us to a FAQ about such things, why not all events are held every year, etc. questions like, why are some gym fans not so excited about NCAA etc. will probably not be on the FAQ. :lol:


    one question that has lingered in my mind --why does kyla ross put one leg in front of the other like she's stepping from one bar to the other on the uneven bars? i seem to recall that this has been done by other gymnasts in the past. perhaps it's a matter of style, but i've always found it less aesthetic.

    thanks again. you make 4 year fans look smart :p
     
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  11. london_calling

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    I believe it's a deduction for them to do that. I remember Jordyn used to do the same thing when she was a junior. I'm not sure why they do it, maybe a habit or an issue of not having the strength to keep their legs together.
     
  12. Loves_Shizuka

    Loves_Shizuka Gettin' my sass out

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    There are a couple of World Cup events in Stuttgart and Glasgow later this year. The next big thing is The World Championships in Antwerp - in September 2013!

    I'm not sure if there will be a Euros next year. There are also some events held in the US earlier in the year like The American Cup.
     
  13. skfan

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    thanks, everybody, for the education :)
     
  14. danafan

    danafan Canadian ladies ├╝ber

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    It's only a deduction if you don't reach handstand before you split your legs (.3).

    Usually gymnasts use that technique because of lack of flexibility, which is odd in Ross' case because she can do a very good inside Stalder with her feet together.
     
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    Thank you. Lack of flexibility makes more sense.
     
  16. floskate

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  17. b-man

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    Thanks, Shizuka.
     
  18. Karpenko

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    SO MUCH LOVE THIS. :rofl: :cheer: This team is something very special. I feel so drained and sad that it's over, like any Olympics you are left with a mixed bag but overall I'm really pleased with how it went. I'll post my highs/lows later on but I'm left feeling happy and hoping that many of these gymnasts keep going for 4 more years.
     
  19. Karpenko

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    I just saw this video of Alicia Sacramone in London and had to post it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0a-_7yM034

    She is so hilarious. :rofl: I would never have the guts to do that, she's probably a blast to hang out with. She also looks fantastic as usual. :)
     
  20. Scintillation

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    Agreed. She looks amazing and clearly she's having a great time.
    Also loving mckaylas contribution to her own meme.

    Well I'll attempt my highs and lows:

    Highs:
    1. Team USA getting gold
    2. Mustafina getting a medal in every event she was in and solidifying her place as my absolute favorite gymnast this quad
    3. Gabby winning AA...a very exciting surprise because I was convinced shed fall apart. She didn't and I'm thrilled she won.
    4. Tweddle getting bronze on UB. I was torn between her and mustafina for gold but I'm glad she got a medal.
    5. Sui Lu rocking her beam set.
    6. The men's vault final
    7. The men's highbar final
    8. Mckaylas meme explosion
    9. Aly kicking ass and taking names.

    Lows:
    1. Women's vault final
    2. Men's team final
    3. Sui Lu missing out on beam gold. Deng was great but... I wanted Sui to get it.
    4. jordyn being shut out of AA finals.
    5. Kohei being good but not great like he usually is
    6. John orozco imploding. Ugh.
    7. Viktoria komova giving up therefore leaving me underwhelmed and disappointed.
    8. The Russian women imploding in the team final. I wanted the competition to be closer than it was.
     
  21. skfan

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    re: #50

    john orozco fought back to a respectable finish in the all around. NBC refused to show his rising up to #8 overall because it would have interfered with leyva fluff (or whatever their motivation...). just as some people objected to NBC painting an incomplete picture of the russian ladies as divas, i similarly object to their showing john's downfall but not even bothering to show events later that evening where john has a good or respectable performance.

    ah, but what do i know. i like him the best of all the american male gymnasts, so i had to pipe up and say something, though i largely agree with your list, especially re: mustafina and gabby.
     
  22. Scintillation

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    John's my favorite too, and I know he did fight back to finish 8th but with that and his disasters in team finals it was overall a very disappointing Olympics for him. I thought he couldve made a run for the AA podium-I was hoping he would be over Leyva. (I just find Leyva to be kind of douchey.) However he is still so young and he can come back strong for Rio.
     
  23. skfan

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    ^ i sure hope so :)
     
  24. Karpenko

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    It's actually not a deduction - that's considered acceptable technique, it just leaves a negative impression. The step down technique is this era's sole circle on the low-bar jump to high bar transition. It's an acceptable skill that won't get deducted, but breaks up the line and nobody really cares to see it..

    ETA: didn't see Danafans post :)

    I actually thought Kyla's TF routine could be a bit higher, she got .5 on one of the pirouettes but I think bend arms here and there is what did her in. Bent arms on the toe shoot is also a big reason why Gabbys score was so much lower in QR and TF compared to the all-around.
     
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  27. Buzz

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    Why does Jordan have a brace on her foot?
     
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    Does anyone know where I can find a stream or a download for any of the WAG event finals from London? I can't access the NBC streams because I'm not in the U.S., and the CTV website doesn't seem to have much more than a few individual routines.
     
  29. Scintillation

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    Apparently she has a stress fracture.
     
  30. Karpenko

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    My London highs and lows:

    Highs

    - US Women's consistency and amazing nerves under pressure - I don't think we've ever had an entire team compete so well throughout an entire Olympics, I think only 1996 comes the closest. They were so emotionally close and lifted each other up and lived every routine together. They were such an easy team to root for and I think the team unity and endless hours of hard excruciating work is what brought everything together for them compared to the other teams.
    - Maroney's stuck TF vault, never thought we would get to see this and she did it at the exact time she needed to do it most out of her entire career. :rockstar: This vault will be remembered forever. Million saw her do this, and millions more will know her because of her meme. And she's not retiring. :glamor: One of my all-time favorites.
    - Deng Linlin's BB gold. I have felt the past 4 years that she is the most under-rated beam worker in China, and while Sui Lu has a gorgeous punch front half I've always been a bit baffled at why people forget about DLL's routine but rave over a billion 2-skill combinations with absolutely no choreography to speak of in Sui Lu's. I prefer DLL's acrobatic elements, choreography, and almost everything about it. Even her leaps are better IMO, that sheep jump-back tuck combination is gorgeous. :swoon: She's a classic chinese BB routine and her win for me was the biggest shock of the competition (other than VT finals :scream:) It's literally walking backwards or forwards the entire time to set up a skill in Sui Lu's routine, though I do find her to be more elegant overall. Happy to see her hit because she fell 4 times on beam at the test event, but I think the gold and silver in that final were very clear and am surprised to see so many feeling that Sui Lu was robbed.
    - Aliya Mustafina :) She is amazing and presents herself beautifully. I blink at the triple twist and it's more tolerable, everything about her here was pretty awesome and I loved how classy she acted the entire time while NBC tried portraying her as a diva. She is only going to keep getting more and more medals, she more than lived up to her expectation here. She medaled in every event that she competed in, very very impressive! :respec:
    - Kohei Uchimura - In a way compared to the past 3 years I might consider this competition somewhat of a low for him, but I am just so relieved that he is the Olympic AA Champ and that everything is right in the world as far as that goes.
    - Gabby Douglas. :D She did it, and neener neener. :p I'm 2 for 2 now on Olympic AA Champs and am so proud of her!
    - Komova's FX in the AA - That might be the best routine I've ever seen under pressure. It was one of those moments where everything came together at just the right time on every pass, and it was far and away the best routine on floor she has ever done. By at least 7 or 8 tenths of a point actually. She has to realize that every routine can't be like that one for someone who is human, which is why it's always so important to fight at any cost..
    - The HB final, YES! :cheer: The best top 2 on HB ever at an Olympics IMO!
    - Beth Tweddle finally getting an UB medal, shame about the dismount but I still would've had her 2nd personally.
    - Aly Raisman finally coming into her own as a gymnast and competing extremely well. I am a huge snob about her in particular, but you can't deny her tumbling like that and she does bring a nice contribution to the sport as far as difficulty is concerned. Finally an Olympic Champ that pushes the boundaries on tumbling passes. She's never going to be fun to watch for me on anything but floor though, but she deserves all of her success and attention and did a great job.
    - Team Canada - way to go! :kickass:
    - Berki's beautiful pommel flairs
    - Aly Raisman's parents, maybe rude to others around but :rofl: pure comedy.
    - Gabby's family after she won the AA, also Chow and Mihai after Aly nailed floor in EF
    - Jenny Zhang forever!!! :respec: What an amazing team coach
    - Sam Mikulak and Aly Raisman's sportsmanship
    - Ponor's layout full in from prelims and stuck landings in her last Olympic routine
    - He Kexin showing that she truly is one of the best on UB, but left me still a bit meh. She more than did her job here though :respec:


    Lows
    - NBC - Would have ruined my Olympics without Shannon Miller and BBC antidote. Really bad this time, the worst they have ever been IMO. And I want to be the fluff maker someday, I liked some of their ideas but :yikes: at the cheesyness of some of them. Some of their montages uploaded to the website too were just terrible and zoomed in on all the wrong places that I felt icky and couldn't finish. I wish we could bring John Tesh back just for the fluff.
    - The vault final that never was. And NBC once again showing Ellie here out of every Canadian routine, I mean really.
    - The thought of the board knowing what the FX podium was eventually going to be 4 months ago. :scream:
    - The mens Team Final, if not for the GB men that would've been the worst ever I think.
    - Team Russia's final rotation on FX :fragile: I know Grishina was coming back from injury, but she did so poorly that worry if we will ever see her in competition again.
    - Komova :wall: Once she learns how to let go, let it all go, and start competing to win instead of competing to be perfect, she will be unstoppable. She's capable of dominating this sport and I really don't think she's even at her peak yet. But her whole demeanor was a letdown for me. :(
    - John Geddert. Ugh.
    - Jordyn Wieber's prelims, they milked that as much as anything I have ever seen
    - The thought of this being the last time we see so many of these amazing ladies. I hope that Chusovitina, Ponor, and Tweddle inspire these girls to not give it up.
    - Iordache's injury, and the way Belu and Bitang handle situations. Whenever they don't win they act as if their gymnasts don't exist, nobody is watching their gymnasts and thinkning about the coaches so why don't they ever show they care when it isn't a gold medal? They need to get over themselves and be thankful they could even assemble the team that they had, because with Ponor, Izbasa, or an injured Iordache, they would have been lucky to even make the team final or win a medal period.
    - Ferrari's leotards
    - Ponor's floor music
    - YJN injury :( Could've easily won an AA medal otherwise I think
    - USA mens team, and really Danell Leyva is great but he seems to get cockier by the minute. You did well to medal but could've done much better then you did there buddy ;)
    - China's vault scores in mens QR and TF

    For some reason I feel like I'm forgetting a ton, but overall it was good. I'd give it a solid 6.5/10.
     
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