Gymnastics News #13

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  1. floskate

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    The old thread finally made it to 1000 so here's a new thread right in time for Worlds.

    So.....Maroney is promoted to doing the AA at the expense of Dowell. Anyone see that coming?
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  2. danafan

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    I hoped Maroney would be ready and I'm so happy for her!

    I wonder if they knew this was a possibility all along.

    USAG must think Maroney is in with a chance for an AA medal. I can't wait to see clips of her podium training tomorrow!
  3. london_calling

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    Everything I saw indicated that McKayla was really struggling with bars and beam in training. I would be shocked if she made the AA over Kyla and Simone.

    It seems cruel to not let Brenna compete at all. Maybe she got injured?
  4. Tesla

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    That's very interesting. I guess they figured Dowell would've been pushed from any finals by the other gymnasts. Good for Maroney! I hope she and Ross are the two US AAs. :shuffle:
  5. kuzytalent

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    Whatever choice they made there was no good or bad one. Dowell isnt even a contender to make finals on bars and beam, and Maroney is weak on both bars and beam and never going to make the AA unless one of Ross or Biles have a splatfest, probably falling atleast twice. The main thing is having Biles and Ross in contention for the AA and Maroney in contention for vault and floor. Whichever 3rd gymnast they put up on bars and beam was a crapshoot and almost useless regardless.
  6. kuzytalent

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    I am a bit worried about Maroney now though since I really want to see her win both vault and floor, and I hope that having to focus and do 2 more events for almost no reason other than they cant find anyone to do them doesnt take away from her chances to win vault and floor.
  7. Karpenko

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    I am so happy (and feel evil) that Maroney is doing AA. If she won an AA medal I would be over the moon.

    I think by next year Dowell is going to be a very key team member, ESP for vault and UB in team finals.
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    :lol: All the talk about the triple twisting yurchenko being named after Biles or Maroney first and Hong Un Jong comes along and says ME, and im 50 too now what. her amanar had good height in training. Going to be a great vault podium if she even hits a 2 1/2. Too bad we couldn't swap this one with London..

    :( For Brenna but she will get those moves next year, Simone is going to have an enormous difficulty score on floor. (I bet she could punch a front layout out of it too) ^ She will be world FX champ if she has that same routine in FX finals, nobody would be able to beat her there either.
  12. Erin

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    Just looked at the start lists and I'm surprised that Canada again doesn't have Victoria Moors competing vault (and there not AA). Moors is a good vaulter and the only reason to pull her from vault would be if Chant and Hofland both had a good shot at making vault finals (which seems unlikely). Is it potentially injury related? It still seems like she could but it out for one vault in prelims to have a chance at AA finals, especially since she is also doing floor. I had thought it was equally strange that she didn't vault at the Olympics when she had a DTY and instead Canada put up two gymnasts with 1.5TYvaults.
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  14. danafan

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    Do you mean the nominative roster? I don't think the official start lists are out.

    Moors' DTY wasn't very consistent and in London the decision to pull her from vault was to ensure Canada had a chance to qualify for the AA final, and Pegg was the only gymnast in position to do that, which is why she vaulted instead of Moors.
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    Incredible. Other than the slight leg separation as she goes onto the table, it is perfect. Better than London because of the total control on the landing. I am hoping that she hits one like this in competition to see what score the judges throw at it. Just give it a 10!
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  18. Erin

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    That's good re Moors. The participant list is obviously not final...after I posted earlier, I kept reading and saw that Dowell is still listed to do beam and bars, so there are other changes still to come.
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    I read that Nabieva may have a concussion after landing a tumbling pass on her head. Is this true or was someone just joking about how much bad luck Russia has had? I forgot that Afan was out, too. So much back and forth with this team that I can't even keep up.
  20. gingercrush

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    Yes hearing the same thing. She may not do AA now. I'm not sure the Russians will have anyone by the end of this Olympic cycle. They need to reexamine something because they are consistently killing these girls.

    Not happy that Maroney got an AA spot. She didn't deserve it seeing as she didn't compete AA at National Championship. And although she would be a good AAer for other countries. For the US at least she doesn't stand a chance. Also how incredibly mean of US gymnastics/Martha to do that with Dowell. She should never have been announced as going to worlds in the first place if Martha wanted three AAers. Besides I see Maroney's beam and UB to be simply too weak compared to Biles and Ross. What Martha should be doing is making sure she is a brilliant Vault/FX specialist. She could upgrade the Mustafina vault or even throw a TTY. On floor she could add a half to her Double Arabian and bring back her 3.5 twist.

    And does Martha not like Ross or something.

    Oh and I read on the All Round forum that Mustafina has submitted the Triple Y. She is close to succeeding but I don't think she is close enough.
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    Mustafina has submitted the triple Y so many times now and has never gotten it. One day she will.
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    She has never submitted to world championships, this is her first attempt. The only other championships she has submitted was at the european championships this year, again that would not be allowed for naming purpose.
  23. floskate

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    MAG quals is underway and Mikulak finished just shy of 90 points overall. Definitely a contender. In other news 17 year old Kenzo Shirai has been busy making history with the first recognised triple twisting Yurchenko and a quad twist on floor.

    Kenzo Shirai FX Qual Quad twist stuck cold is the dismount :eek:

    Kenzo Shirai TTY VT Qual

    So a quick question for those in teknik. WAG vaulter Hong Un Jong has submitted the TTY but obviously is yet to compete. Does this mean all future TTY will be called a Shirai? Or if a woman does manage it, will it be named after her under the WAG code?
  24. Karpenko

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    It would be different in the mens and womens. :) Those are beautifully done, he's going to push Uchimura the next 4 years too going to be a great motivation for both.

    Catching up on vids... Based on the PT clips I'm not feeling the Kyla World AA Champ feeling I've had all year, but who knows she may surprise in competition. It's like she's gotten even taller and it's thrown everything off - her bars esp look to have regressed in a lot of ways, hopefully they look a lot cleaner in competition. Floor was good, beam could maybe medal, but I think if they all hit at this point Maroney/Biles might have higher AA scoring potential. Biles could even make all 4 EF. I also think its a huge plus that Mac gets to start on FX/VT - when those two are out of the way all pressure is off and everything is a gain. Mustafina looks great on bars, Izbasa looks good to medal on floor, Yao Jinnan looks fab http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-u8bsa1wK4

    I noticed a Romanian in the feed had both FF-tucked full and FF-piked full BB combos in one routine - has Iordache upgraded here? I love the arena, feels like an authentic gym Worlds. :cheer: :watch:
  25. gingercrush

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    It'll be like the Shewfelt and Amanar I would have thought.
  26. Erin

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    I'm happy as a fan of Maroney's to see her to AA and disagree that she doesn't stand a chance (I don't think Martha would put her up if she had no chance), but I do agree that it was pretty awful of USAG to do that to Dowell. It is also a bit of a shame that she doesn't get the experience this year with little pressure when she could be an important team member in the future.

    Yes, I would agree, although I always think it's strange that hardly anyone calls the vault a Shewfelt in MAG - they usually just refer to it as a 2.5TY.
  27. Loves_Shizuka

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    I just noticed a name in the MAG quals - Naoya Tsukahara for AUSTRALIA... is this the same Naoya Tsukahara of 90's Japanese fame?!
  28. Allen

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    Yay for Brandon Wynn leading Ring Qualifications after 3 subdivisions! Mikulak in second after 3 subdivisions in the all around behind Uchimura.

    Interesting that we have a female judge in the Men's competition and a male judge in the Women's competition. I know this is completely normal at other competitions (NCAA Women's competitions regularly have male judges, not so much the other way around), but it's a first for the World Championships.
  29. Braulio

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    Yes he is the same gymnast

    The standings so far after 3 Subdivisions

    All Around
    1. Uchimura--JPN--91.924
    2. Mikulak--USA--89.532
    3. Lin--CHN--89.43
    4. Zhou--CHN--88.898
    5. Sasaki--BRA--88.699
    6. Hambuechen--GER--88.064
    7. Purvis--GBR--87.031
    8. Hegi--SUI--86.998
    9. Whitlock--GBR--86.941
    10. Calvo Moreno--COL--86.939

    Floor
    1 K. Shirai JPN - 16.233
    2 K. Uchimura JPN - 15.333
    3 F. Hambuechen GER - 15.266
    4 D. Purvis GBR - 15.266
    5 J. Dalton USA - 15.166
    6 S. Morgan CAN - 15.100
    7 S. Mikulak USA - 15.033
    8 S. Sasaki Jr. BRA - 15.000

    Pommel Horse
    1 A. Busnari ITA - 15.633
    2 D. Corral MEX - 15.600
    3 R. Seligman CRO - 15.500
    4 M. Petrov RUS - 15.500
    5 M. Whitlock GBR - 15.408
    6 K. Kameyama JPN - 15.400
    7 H. Merdinyan ARM - 15.333
    8 K. Uchimura JPN - 15.133

    Rings
    1 B. Wynn USA- 15.700
    2 A. Balandin RUS - 15.600
    3 L Van Gelder NED - 15.566
    4 S. Ait Said FRA - 15.566
    5 K. Yamamuro JPN - 15.500
    6 E. Petrounas GRE - 15.466
    7 M. Morandi ITA - 15.400
    8 F. Molinari ARG - 15.366

    Vault
    1 H. Yang KOR - 15.299
    2 O. Verniaiev UKR - 15.041
    3 S. Sasaki Jr BRA - 14.987
    4 K. Shirai JPN - 14.916
    5 M. Berbecar ROU - 14.916
    6 J. Dalton USA - 14.866
    7 M. Fahrig GER - 14.841
    8 W. Shek HKG - 14.795

    Parallel Bars
    1 V. Tsolakidis GRE - 15.866
    2 A. Fokin UZB - 15.800
    3 C. Lin CHN - 15.733
    4 S. Zhou CHN - 15.666
    5 M. Berbecar ROU - 15.600
    6 J. Orozco USA - 15.433
    7 S. Mikulak USA - 15.400
    8 K. Uchimura JPN - 15.400
    8 E. Zonderland NED - 15.400

    High Bar
    1 K. Uchimura JPN - 15.658
    2 F. Hambuechen GER - 15.633
    3 E. Zondeland NED - 15.433
    4 S. Mikulak USA - 15.366
    5 J. Calvo Moreno COL - 15.166
    6 A. Bretschneider GER - 15.133
    7 C. Lin CHN - 15.066
    8 S. Zhou CHN - 15.066
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  30. Fergus

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    CHEERS!!! :cheer2: He was spectacular today.

    Sam was nice and steady, it was very much a strong, secure All-Around performance. :)

    The way they're breaking it up is sorta strange.
  31. ilovesalchows

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    MAG Qualifying is over, and the only US man not to make a final was Naddour, which is a shame because he hit both routines. Just doesn't have the difficulty on PH or SR to make finals.

    Ross went 4 for 4 and scored 59.198. She is way out in front but her challengers won't compete until tomorrow.

    WAG Qual session 2 is up now. The results link appears to be broken.
  32. reese

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    What sessions are Biles and Maroney in?
  33. ilovesalchows

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    Biles and Nabieva are in group 3 tomorrow.

    Maroney and Mustafina are in group 4.
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    Gutted for Dan Keatings. He was coming back so well with that European PH title but he had a bad comp at home just before Worlds and hasn't made the final here. He's worked so hard to get back in the team as well. :(
  35. Theatregirl1122

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    Interesting that the US only ended up having one man do AA. I really hope Sam can keep his performance up! Did the US also only have two men do HB? Because that seems odd.
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    MAG

    MEN'S ALL-AROUND FINALISTS
    1. Uchimura JPN 91.924
    2. Mikulak USA 89.532
    3. Kato JPN 89.474
    4. Lin CHN 89.430
    5. Zhou CHN 88.898
    6. Sasaki BRA 88.699
    7. Hambüchen GER 88.064
    8. Purvis GBR 87.031
    9. Hegi SUI 87.998
    10. Whitlock GBR 86.941
    11. Calvo COL 86.939
    12. Likhovitsky BLR 86.216
    13. Gonzalez ESP 86.132
    14. Belyavsky RUS 86.065
    15. Park KOR 85.531
    16. Vernyayev UKR 85.381
    17. Deurloo NED 85.365
    18. Mariano BRA 85.190
    19. Schmidt NED 84.698
    20. Abad ESP 84.548
    21. Willig FRA 84.014
    22. Brägger SUI 83.898
    23. Ramos PUR 83.340
    24. Simões POR 83.306

    FLOOR EXERCISE
    1. Shirai JPN 7.4/16.233
    2. Hypolito BRA 6.9/15.600
    3. Uchimura JPN 6.4/15.333
    4. Hambüchen GER 6.3/15.266
    5. Purvis GBR 6.5/15.266
    6. Dalton USA 6.5/15.155
    7. Morgan CAN 6.4/15.100
    8. Legendre USA 6.8/15.091

    POMMEL HORSE
    1. Busnari ITA 7.1/15.633
    2. Corral MEX 6.7/15.600
    3. Zhang CHN 6.4/15.541
    4. Seligman CRO 6.4/15.500
    5. Petrov RUS 6.7/15.500
    6. Sellathurai AUS 6.6/15.416
    7. Whitlock GBR 6.6/15.408
    8. Kameyama JPN 6.6/15.400

    STILL RINGS
    1. Liu CHN 6.8/15.866
    2. Zanetti BRA 6.9/15.733
    3. Wynn USA 6.8/15.700
    4. Balandin RUS 6.6/15.600
    5. Van Gelder NED 6.6/15.566
    6. Ait Said FRA 6.8/15.566
    7. Pinheiro-Rodrigues FRA 6.9/15.566
    8. Yamamuro JPN 6.6/15.500

    VAULT
    1. Yang KOR 15.299
    2. Vernyayev UKR 15.041
    3. Sasaki BRA 14.987
    4. Thomas GBR 14.933
    5. Hypolito BRA 14.924
    6. Shirai JPN 14.916
    7. Berbecar ROM 14.916
    8. Legendre USA 14.916

    PARALLEL BARS
    1. Tsolakidis GRE 6.8/15.866
    2. Fokin UZB 6.9/15.800
    3. Lin CHN 6.7/15.733
    4. You CHN 6.9/15.666
    5. Berbecar ROM 6.7/15.600
    6. Wynn USA 6.6/15.466
    7. Orozco USA 6.8/15.433
    8. Uchimura JPN 6.4/15.400
    8. Zonderland NED 6.4/15.400

    HIGH BAR
    1. Uchimura JPN 6.9/15.658
    2. Hambüchen GER 7.1/15.633
    3. Zonderland NED 7.1/15.433
    4. Mikulak USA 6.9/15.366
    5. Calvo COL 7.1/15.166
    6. Bretschneider GER 6.9/15.133
    7. Kato JPN 6.4/15.075
    8. Lin CHN 6.9/15.066
  38. 4rkidz

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    I assume none of this is televised or online? I love watching the gymnastics live..
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    Check this out: http://usagymworlds.com/live/
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