Gwendal Peizerat running for prez French Fed

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  1. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    :lol:

    Disappointing result. But at least he stood and provided another option. It is a democracy and maybe that is what the French Federation wants. As most of us are not there how do we know how it operates.
     
  2. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    He got more votes than I thought he would.
    Keep at it, Gwendal.
     
  3. VarBar

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    Judging by the amount of criticism of how Didier runs his federation, one would be tempted to think that most of those who are involved in the sport of figure skating in France would want to get rid of him as soon as they can and elect a new face but the recent 65% of vote just comes to show that Didier still enjoys the support of quite a few skating clubs and officials in his country. Puzzling to say the least.:rolleyes:
     
  4. Zemgirl

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    Unfortunately, it seems pretty certain that they only way to pry Gailhaguet away from the FFSG is if he sets his sights on the ISU :scream:
     
  5. michiruwater

    michiruwater Well-Known Member

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    Please do me a favor and point out exactly where I said that she is the only person I would have banned.

     
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  6. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    It might be puzzling to us but not those who voted.
     
  7. Amantide

    Amantide Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the amount of criticism are the minority. We tend to think that those who speaks out and complain are in majority.
     
  8. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    This.
     
  9. MarieM

    MarieM Grumpy Cynical Ice Dance Lover

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    No you're wrong. The fact is that DG has got plenty of good files on the presindents of certain clubs to make sure he wins (as an example Bercy is his pet).
    And making sure certain clubs couldn't vote gave him an easy win...
     
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  10. Asli

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    No it isn't! The French fed is the North Korea of the figure skating world. A one-man institution.

    I agree with skatesindreams, Gwendal got more votes than one would have expected. 34% is quite something! Congratulations to him!
     
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  11. MarieM

    MarieM Grumpy Cynical Ice Dance Lover

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    North Korea ? LOL :):D
     
  12. victorskid

    victorskid Skating supporter

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  13. VarBar

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    Back in 2010, after being the target of harsh criticism from the then secretary of state for sports on account of the poor results of the French skating in Vancouver, Gailhaguet won the election for a new term by 88% of the votes. :lol: If DG loses 23% of the votes on every election, he will surely be pushed off his armchair four years from now. lol Looks like what Didier's next opponent will have to do is conquer the large clubs and I suggest that opponent should try to steal from Gailhaguet the good files he has on their presidents. If MarieM was implying that Didier would be blackmailing corrupt club presidents to make sure he wins, well, the French have this saying "Tel maître, tel valet".

    Now seriously, I tend to agree with Zemgirl that Gailhaguet will never leave the helm of the French Fed unless he is appointed/elected in a higher position and I clearly remember a couple of FSU members posted a while ago that DH would make a fine ISU president because he is a good manager and he knows figure skating.:slinkaway

    Gwendal's 34% proves that the French Fed is not North Korea though but I'm afraid that this defeat might prevent him from ever running again.
     
  14. aftershocks

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    ^^ Why would being defeated the first time one runs, prevent one from ever running again? :confused:
     
  15. VarBar

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    I suspect there is no rule that would forbid Gwendal to run again but those who lose presidential elections once usually don't give it another try. It's a matter of image.
     
  16. aftershocks

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    ^^ Is this a French thing then, this "image" thingy? :p

    No correlation, but I was just thinking of another example: Richard Nixon ran and lost against John Kennedy and then kind of disappeared until he came back to run again and win! Of course his despotic tendencies and paranoia had him leaving office in disgrace before his full eight years were up.

    Would that Cinquanta's despotism, power-hungry machinations, and inept knowledge of figure skating would have him leaving office in disgrace!!!

    Not voting for Gwendal is the French Federation's loss! Figure skating is so status quo, to its own detriment.
     
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  17. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm if it was like North Korea Didier would have got 100% of the vote.
     
  18. Nours

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    Easy to put things out of context.

    In my case it was written "compare to Cinquanta" after or before. Which is totally different than what you imply.
     
  19. jenniferlyon

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    There would also be enormous banners and portraits of Didier hanging at every skating rink. (Maybe there are? I've never been to a rink in France.)
     
  20. VarBar

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    I don't know what you think I was implying but if Gailhaguet is thought as good enough to run the international skating, why wouldn't he be good enough to run the French skating?

    I'm not French, my comment just stems from observing presidential elections around the world. I said "usually" because I know there were some exceptions but generally speaking, political parties try to avoid to nominate a candidate who was defeated before because I assume it's pretty hard to campaign again for a "loser". I think Marie-Reine Le Gougne called the result a regal slap in Gwendal's face? Or did I get her words wrong?
     
  21. kwanfan1818

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    The elections for the French Fed always remind me of the Prisoner's Dilemma.
     
  22. Asli

    Asli Well-Known Member

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    Gailhaguet apparently behaves like the Eternal President of North Korea, not allowing any of the clubs, coaches or skaters any say in decisions about their own lives and destroying those who dare open their mouths.

    However the voters are after all French, so they have been "corrupted" by western values like having a mind of your own. ;)
     
  23. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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  24. Susan M

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    Seriously? She is the only one who could or should be sanctioned because she is the only one proven guilty of misconduct. A lot of folks thought the Russians deserved to win on merit, so you can't assume that the other 4 judges who gave them their top ordinal were all part of any fix or deal.
     
  25. Zemgirl

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    She was never proven guilty of anything, though. Probably because it was in nobody's best interest to carry out a full, impartial, and transparent inquiry.
     
  26. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

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    Their suspensions weren't overturned, so while there was no full investigation, there was at least a partial one, including Lavoie's letter, the letter by the Swiss official who forced a letter, a letter from a volunteer who was a judge in the French court system which described a conversation she heard while she was the driver, the description of her breakdown in the referee's meeting. That she later recanted after a meeting with Gailhaguet would likely have been trashed in a formal investigation as collusion.
     
  27. NadineWhite

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    My hats off to you for trying, Gwendal, and do not give up! Whatever you think about the most is what you will become...

    "it's better to have tried & failed then to have never tried at all"
     
  28. skatak

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    The French federation issued a short press release about the results for the elections.
    A rapid translation gives (it's a bit too late it for more refinements ! am correcting the mispelled sentences anyway ^^) :

    [summary of the results]

    Didier Gailhaguet declared after the vote : 'I am surprised with the scale of this score taking into account the mediatic pugnacity of my competitors and the fact that I almost did not any campaign for it.
    The presence at my side of Brian JOUBERT, Nathalie PECHALAT, the election to the Federal Council of still active athletes like Florent AMODIO, Sebastien LEPAPE * and Maé BERENICE ** are strong assets for a new, modernized and rejuvenated Federation.'

    The General Assembly noted the good economic health of the federation and the program of the newly elected president was presented :
    - strengthened/closer relations with Clubs and Leagues
    - launching of something linked to Olympic Sport
    - creation of an autonomous league for judges/referees
    - project to create a National Center of Ice Sport***
    - more open-mindeness to new way of practicing skating like 'freestyle'


    * [short tracker]
    ** I did not correct the mistake on the name of Maé-Bérénice MEITE
    *** there had been a system called 'Opera de la glace' which was supposed to, in summary, bring promising skaters from different clubs to Paris for special training sessions with specialists for short periods of time. Maybe it's a similar stucture but widened to Ice Sports in general ? I have barely heard of the previous one (which may still be existing)