Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, Jun 3, 2013.
Is it true that Denis Ten withdrew from Cup of China?
He's listed in the SP start order as of today.
ETA: But if you read the latest news posted in his thread, it wouldn't be a surprise if he ends up withdrawing: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...ams-amp-more&p=4031043&viewfull=1#post4031043
Thanks. I heard rumors that he was not doing well in practice and has since withdrawn. I hope he gets well soon.
The visa issues are very understandable. It's unlikely for him to just get a tourist visa to compete. I don't know if it's allowed by ISU for skaters to travel to competitions on a tourist visa, but even then, he would need to show the foreign consulates proof of income and/or enough savings, which I'm not sure he has under his own name. But then, if you apply for a business/sports visa, you would need all the paperwork from the federation, invitation, lodging info, insurance etc. It's never easy to get a visa. Usually in China you pay agencies to deal with the paperwork for you, but I doubt those people know how to process a UZB passport. I once tried to get a German student visa in New York City as a Chinese citizen. It took me two months, a few hundred dollars and two rounds of flight rescheduling.
Re-posting from the Denis Ten thread in GSD: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...ams-amp-more&p=4036618&viewfull=1#post4036618
Could he not travel under his Chinese passport? It seems to me that might make things easier considering he is living in China. Lots of skaters travel under a passport that is not the same as the country they represent. It is really too bad that he is unable to compete because of paperwork.
Misha Ge just tweeted some pictures of the rink, apparently he actually trains in the same rink the competition is being held but won't compete
That is just horrible.
That's a shame that the chinese fed don't invite him, he must be heartbroken
Even a Chinese passport is going to present issues going to many places. Especially if he does not have strong government backing pushing the paperwork. For Cup of Nice, it sounded like he just did not have enough time to get the visas.
But it seems like skating at Cup of China or Rostelcom (doesn't he have Russian citizenship too? Maybe I made that up) could have been possible. I know it was very last minute, but I feel like the Chinese Fed dropped the ball. Maybe they don't know how popular he is and didn't think it mattered.
I am relieved to hear that. Glad he's better.
What a debacle.
Ge replied to one of my tweets and said it was an ISU decision, not China's Federation as the LOC.
Which only goes to show how incompetent the ISU is in supporting skaters!
Well done ISU, denying a skater who was already there and could compete at no extra cost, the opportunity.
I wonder if the ISU even bothered to find out where Ge trains? It seems to me there cannot be a rationale for this decision other than they couldn't be bothered to put any energy into it so they just said no. Very sad, but very telling.
If the Chinese Fed actually went to the ISU and asked if they could offer the spot to Ge, presumably they mentined this. The ISU wouldn't know Ge was in China from his bio, which hasn't been updated since last season and lists him training in California:
However, this could be face-saving on the part of the Chinese Fed: the ISU may have sent pro-forma notice at the seven-day mark and the Chinese Fed may be calling this an ISU decision, , or the Chinese Fed may have asked for a "no sub" ruling at the seven-day mark and got it, but then reconsidered, and got a "too late." There's nothing in the GP Announcement that forbids a substitution at the 7-day mark or later. We don't know who did what and when, just that there's an explanation from Ge that's serving at least one purpose.
Yup. we don't know what happened. Misha has lived in China on and off, and yet he has chosen to represent another country. Maybe there's a bit of "why should I help you?" Or maybe the Chinese fed don't want yet another skater to beat Wang yi. Or maybe ISU dropped the ball. Who knows.
According to Ge's tweets, he did get to choreograph part of the CoC finale:
In reverse chronological order:
Katya Bobrova was like "the hip and boby moves you did for ladies Finale gala of CoC we cant even do that good and crazy as you"
Did he mean "body" or "booby"?
I've asked Carolina (Kostner)"What do you think of Choreo i did for finale of CoC,do you like it?"She: i like it ! You a Star!" (Thank You!)
I meet Carolina (Kostner) right after gala practice,soon as she see me she start dance the part that i choreo for finale of CoC Gala
So tomorrow CoC Finally on GALA will be Chinese Choreo and Mine Choreography + Video Tutorial for All 4 categories skaters by Misha Ge
I want to do much more things in Finally for everyone but he said cause there only one hour to practice for everyone need to it more simple
News:i was happy to work with one famous Chinese Choreo another day. He ask me to help him to Choreo Finally for CoC GALA. #Surprise
Alena LEONOVA is still listed on the NHK roster. So is she skating or not?
Either she is or they will have waited successfully into the no-subs-required period. There haven't been any articles so far listing a withdrawal, which usually come before the rosters are changed.
In any case, her Russian internal comp was between her two. GP's and as a non-seeded skater, there's no restriction on her non GP-skating.
I wonder if Li might withdraw from NHK? She looked completely miserable in her FS at CoC and there isn't much recovery time between her events.
Intentionally wait into the no-sub period? That would be a shitty thing to do.
Li Zijun is officially out.
Another wasted spot:roll eyes:, when will isu learn.
okay, not the biggest surprise, but don`t like seeing so mane unfilled spots.
Leonova is probably going to compete given she skated at a Russian comp recently.
I don't think they care at all.
I think you are right!
Re-posting from the Rostelecom Cup forum in Kiss and Cry - Reynolds' name is no longer listed as of Nov. 5, which likely means he has not solved his boot issues in time: