Grand Prix Assignments - 2013/14 Olympic Season

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  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    Assignments are up! Links to the 4 PDF files by discipline (under "Historic" :confused:): http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,4844-136494-137802-nav-list,00.html
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    Men / Ladies / Pairs / Ice Dance

    ETA link to ISU's press release: http://www2.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/...3,4844-205151-222374-nav-list,00.html?id=1327
    An excerpt:
    For further reference, here's the link to the earlier 2013-14 ISU Grand Prix Pre-announcement thread.

    * = GP debut

    SKATE AMERICA (Oct. 18-20, Detroit, Michigan)

    Brian Joubert FRA
    Takahiko Kozuka JPN
    Tatsuki Machida JPN
    Daisuke Takahashi JPN
    Denis Ten KAZ
    Artur Gachinski RUS
    Alexander Majorov SWE
    *Max Aaron USA
    Evan Lysacek USA
    TBA USA

    Mae Berenice Meite FRA
    Elene Gedevanishvili GEO
    Valentina Marchei ITA
    Mao Asada JPN
    *Elena Radionova RUS
    Elizaveta Tuktamysheva RUS
    Viktoria Helgesson SWE
    Ashley Wagner USA
    Caroline Zhang USA
    TBA USA

    Moore-Towers/Moscovitch CAN
    James/Cipres FRA
    Berton/Hotarek ITA
    Stolbova/Klimov RUS
    Volosozhar/Trankov RUS
    Castelli/Shnapir USA
    Denney/Coughlin USA
    TBA USA

    Zlobina/Sitnikov AZE
    Carron/Jones FRA
    Cappellini/Lanotte ITA
    Reed/Reed JPN
    Tobias/Stagniunas LTU
    Davis/White USA
    Shibutani/Shibutani USA
    TBA USA


    SKATE CANADA (Oct. 25-27, Saint John, NB)

    Elladj Balde CAN
    Patrick Chan CAN
    Andrei Rogozine CAN
    Michal Brezina CZE
    Yuzuru Hanyu JPN
    Takahito Mura JPN
    Nobunari Oda JPN
    Jeremy Abbott USA
    *Joshua Farris USA
    Ross Miner USA

    Amelie Lacoste CAN
    Kaetlyn Osmond CAN
    TBA CAN
    Kiira Korpi FIN
    Akiko Suzuki JPN
    Yuna Kim KOR
    Alena Leonova RUS
    Julia Lipnitskaia RUS
    Christina Gao USA
    Gracie Gold USA

    Duhamel/Radford CAN
    Lawrence/Swiegers CAN
    *Purdy/Marinaro CAN
    Sui/Han CHN
    *Vartmann/Van Cleave GER
    Berton/Hotarek ITA
    Kavaguti/Smirnov RUS
    *Davis/Brubaker USA (new)

    Paul/Islam CAN
    Virtue/Moir CAN
    Weaver/Poje CAN
    Zhiganshina/Gazsi GER
    Guignard/Fabbri ITA
    Riazanova/Tkachenko RUS
    *Stepanova/Bukin RUS
    Hubbell/Donohue USA


    CUP OF CHINA (Nov. 1-3, Beijing)

    Kevin Reynolds CAN
    Nan Song CHN
    Yi Wang CHN
    *Han Yan CHN
    Florent Amodio FRA
    Peters Liebers GER
    Takahiko Kozuka JPN
    Denis Ten KAZ
    *Maxim Kovtun RUS
    Richard Dornbush USA

    Zijun Li CHN
    Kexin Zhang CHN
    TBA CHN
    Carolina Kostner ITA
    Kanako Murakami JPN
    Polina Korobeynikova RUS
    *Anna Pogorilaya RUS
    Adelina Sotnikova RUS
    Joshi Helgesson SWE
    Agnes Zawadzki USA

    Pang/Tong CHN
    Peng/Zhang CHN
    TBA CHN
    Popova/Massot FRA
    Savchenko/Szolkowy GER
    Martiusheva/Rogonov RUS
    Scimeca/Knierim USA
    *Zhang/Bartholomay USA

    Huang/Zheng CHN
    Yu/Wang CHN
    TBA CHN
    Carron/Jones FRA
    Pechalat/Bourzat FRA
    Bobrova/Soloviev RUS
    *Aldridge/Eaton USA
    Chock/Bates USA


    NHK TROPHY (Nov. 8-10, Tokyo)

    Chafik Besseghier FRA
    Takahito Mura JPN
    Nobunari Oda JPN
    Daisuke Takahashi JPN
    Konstantin Menshov RUS
    Sergei Voronov RUS
    Javier Fernandez ESP
    *Max Aaron USA
    Jeremy Abbott USA
    Adam Rippon USA

    Zijun Li CHN
    Elene Gedevanishvili GEO
    Valentina Marchei ITA
    Mao Asada JPN
    Akiko Suzuki JPN
    *Satoko Miyahara JPN
    Alena Leonova RUS
    *Elena Radionova RUS
    Gracie Gold USA
    Mirai Nagasu USA

    Lawrence/Swiegers CAN
    Peng/Zhang CHN
    Sui/Han CHN
    TBA JPN
    Kavaguti/Smirnov RUS
    Volosozhar/Trankov RUS
    Castelli/Shnapir USA
    *Denney/Frazier USA

    Gilles/Poirier CAN
    *Kolbe/Caruso GER
    Cappellini/Lanotte ITA
    TBA JPN
    Ilinykh/Katsalapov RUS
    Sinitsina/Zhiganshin RUS
    Davis/White USA
    Shibutani/Shibutani USA


    TROPHEE ERIC BOMPARD (Nov. 15-17, Paris)

    Patrick Chan CAN
    Nan Song CHN
    *Han Yan CHN
    Michael Brezina CZE
    Florent Amodio FRA
    Romain Ponsart FRA
    TBA FRA
    Yuzuru Hanyu JPN
    *Jason Brown USA
    Ross Miner USA

    Kiira Korpi FIN
    *Lenaelle Gilleron-Gorry FRA
    Mae Berenice Meite FRA
    Yretha Silete FRA
    Yuna Kim KOR
    *Anna Pogorilaya RUS
    Adelina Sotnikova RUS
    Viktoria Helgesson SWE
    Christina Gao USA
    Ashley Wagner USA

    Duhamel/Radford CAN
    *Purich/Tran CAN (new)
    Pang/Tong CHN
    James/Cipres FRA
    TBA FRA
    Della Monica/Guarise ITA
    Bazarova/Larionov RUS
    Denney/Coughlin USA

    Orford/Williams CAN
    Virtue/Moir CAN
    Pechalat/Bourzat FRA
    TBA FRA
    Zhiganshina/Gazsi GER
    Coomes/Buckland GBR
    Ilinykh/Katsalapov RUS
    Monko/Khaliavin RUS

    ROSTELECOM CUP (Nov. 22-24, Moscow)

    Kevin Reynolds CAN
    Brian Joubert FRA
    Peter Liebers GER
    Tatsuki Machida JPN
    *Maxim Kovtun RUS
    Evgeni Plushenko RUS
    TBA RUS
    Javier Fernandez ESP
    Richard Dornbush USA
    *Joshua Farris USA

    Kaetlyn Osmond CAN
    Carolina Kostner ITA
    Haruka Imai JPN
    *Satoko Miyahara JPN
    Kanako Murakami JPN
    Julia Lipnitskaia RUS
    Elizaveta Tuktamysheva RUS
    TBA RUS
    Mirai Nagasu USA
    Agnes Zawadzki USA

    Moore-Towers/Moscovitch CAN
    Savchenko/Szolkowy GER
    *Takahashi/Kihara JPN (new)
    *Antipova/Maisuradze RUS
    Bazarova/Larionov RUS
    TBA RUS
    Scimeca/Knierim USA
    *Simpson/Blackmer USA

    Gilles/Poirier CAN
    Weaver/Poje CAN
    *Papadakis/Cizeron FRA
    Bobrova/Soloviev RUS
    Riazanova/Tkachenko RUS
    TBA RUS
    *Heekin-Canedy/Dun UKR
    Chock/Bates USA
     
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  2. puretea

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    thanks, Sylvia :)
     
  3. npavel

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    wow, didn't aspect that early :) up to see them
    thank you so much
     
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  4. Jeschke

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    2 grand prixs for pogorilya and radionova.

    no grand prix for koch/nüchtern,ouch.
     
  5. pinky166

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    Pogo :respec: Farris :cheer: Dornbush :cheer2:

    I am a happy girl right now!
     
  6. zebobes

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    Interesting points that have popped out at me.

    It seems like all of the hosts except for Canada are trying to maximize their spots by keeping a couple of TBA.

    For example, JPN is keeping one Ice Dance and one Pairs spot TBA. That way, their only couples, Reed/Reed, and the new paring, Takahashi/Ryuichi, will both be able to have two assignments total. Did the Reeds do too poorly at Worlds to qualify for two assignments on their own? Must be.

    On the USA side, Adam Rippon and Jason Brown both have one spot only, neither of whom are assigned to Skate America, where there is one TBA. Will one of them get it? Also, Evan is only assigned to one Grand Prix. I guess even though some speculated that he could still use his status as a comeback skater to get two, the ISU must have decided he already used his one time comeback. Or else, Evan doesn't want to do two Grand Prix. Thank goodness that Adam got a high enough season's best this spring, or he might not have gotten a Grand Prix at all.

    I'm glad that Mirai got two spots this time, so that the board doesn't have to pull out their hair in anxiety, waiting for her to get assigned.

    That's all the thoughts I have for now.
     
  7. misskarne

    misskarne #ForzaJules #KeepFightingMichael

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    Josh got two! Jason got one! :cheer:

    So annoyed that the USFSA wasted a GP spot on Lysacek. We all know he won't skate at SkAm, ESPECIALLY if he has to go against Max.

    So pleased that Gachinski got one! Pretty mad that Menshov only got one but Kovtun got two. Stupid RuFed.
     
  8. Zemgirl

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    Skate Canada looks very good on paper.

    I don't understand why Volosozhar/Trankov don't want to skate at their home GP and prefer to travel a fair distance to both events. Strange approach, IMO.

    It'll be interesting to see if Lysacek and Plushenko end up competing. Joubert not going to TEB hasn't happened since his first season, I think. I wonder if it was his idea or the FFSG's.
     
  9. npavel

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    didn't Nikol GOSVIANI get an GP? I wasn't expecting that as Polina KOROBEYNIKOVA got one. Maybe it's up for the TBA spot at RC
     
  10. Zemgirl

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    I don't think Tomas Verner got any assignments, and while he certainly didn't skate well last year, I imagine that if he'd been from one of the host countries, he'd have gotten at least one if not two based on his past record.
     
  11. Marco

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    Too bad a 2nd at Junior Worlds (Brown) does not trump a 5th at 4CCs (Dornbush). I guess Lysacek, Brown, Rippon and Johnson will be sent to fall internationals as well, and the last three will battle out for the last TBA spot at Skate America. it's a bummer that Johnson does not already have a GP. Didn't he medal at that competition after Nationals and beat Joubert in the free at Challenge Cup?

    Kovtun has 2 assignments but Gachinski, Menshov and Voronov only has one for now. I guess whoever has the best outing will get the TBA at Russia.

    Interesting that Joubert is not skating at the home GP.

    No Verner. I guess he really hasn't had a solid skate in a LOOONG time.

    Finally Yan Han has 2 assignments!!! :cheer:

    Looks like SA will have a great men's competition. 3 former world champs (including reigning Oly champ), 2 world silvers (one reigning) and 1 world bronze.

    Why is P&T still on the GP list? :(

    Interestingly neither Daleman nor Chartrand are on the list... but Lacoste is...

    Is Hicks not moving up to seniors? I wonder who is going to get the TBA spot now. Siraj? Cesario? Are Wang, Miller and Edmunds staying junior too?

    Japan has less spots in the ladies than I expected. I don't think Miyahara and her tiny jumps will impress in seniors. (I love her skating though). And No Ando and no TBA. I guess it's pretty official that she isn't coming back.

    In contrast I am surprised how many spots Russian ladies have given how their Worlds outing went. Can I confirm again if Radionova and Pogorilaya are age eligible for Sochi? How did Polina K beat out Gosviani for a spot when the latter was 6th at Euros?

    Wagner faces Asada and 2 wondergirls in SA and Kim and 2 other wondergirls in TEB - doesn't look like she can win her events so easily this season.
     
  12. dariko

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    Is this sarcasm???
     
  13. kwanfan1818

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    Since comeback status is not granted automatically -- either the Federation (on behalf of the skater) or the skater has to file the paperwork and commit to two events (although not guaranteed them) -- why would Lysacek and/or USFS have applied for it formally when the last time Lysacek was assigned two, he was guaranteed one by being Top 24 WS based on the points he earned in 2010? He may not have applied for it this season to avoid committing to two and risking the possibility of making GPF and traveling outside NA for GP.

    Czisny either didn't apply, USFS didn't submit her name on the GP list, or she was ineligible for comeback status because she dropped out of Top 6 at Worlds after being seeded, because she hasn't been assigned at least one up front. The same thing could be true of Suguri. USFS might be waiting to monitor her: of their Top 11 at US Nationals last year, Wagner (1), Gold (2), Zawadzki (3), Gao (5), and Nagasu (7) already have two, Zhang (11) already has Skate America, and it looks like the rest are staying Junior (Hicks, Siraj, Cesario, Wang, and Miller). Who else would they have to whom to give the assignment? Cain? Forte?

    After being screwed and very unlucky last year by being Top 24 and with the hosts skipping her repeatedly for the alternates list last season, sometimes legitimate because she was already assigned or there were three US Ladies already and other times because they could get away with it, I'm glad Nagasu got her two this year.

    Ando did use up her one-time comeback option last season -- she said in an interview that she signed the paperwork, but whether that was for the ISU or required by her Federation wasn't clear -- and the Japanese Fed didn't hold a spot open for her, let alone asign her to one.

    So odd to see Verner off the list.

    ETA: Gosviani is 33rd on the SB list and 55th on the WS list and wasn't guaranteed any. Korobeynikova is 22nd on the WS list and was guaranteed one.
     
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  14. caseyedwards

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    I can't believe Russia put Radionova in! It just didn't make sense with her not being Olympic eligible.

    2009 skate America saw an empty mens field but this time it is packed! Doubt Lysacek is returning.
     
  15. misskarne

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    I'm not quite sure what you mean, but Aaron would steamroller Lysacek, and you can bet Lysacek knows it. Therefore, I wouldn't at all be surprised if Lysacek has a "niggle" that means he "has" to withdraw from Skate America.
     
  16. pinky166

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    Johnson was not eligible for GP by normal standards because scores at senior Bs do not count for SB, and his WS is very, very low because he has hardly competed internationally at all. He could get the host pick (and hopefully will), but that was the only way he was going to get a GP.

    Rippon managed to get one secured not because of SB, because Gardenia is a senior B and is therefore not eligible for a SB score, but because the points he got for winning that event put his WS into the top 24.

    5th at 4CC gives a skater more ranking points than 2nd at JWC, and further, Dornbush had a higher score at 4CC than Brown at JWC, and Brown also had a pretty slow start to last season, not breaking 200 points internationally until his last competition of the season, JWC, when he blew that benchmark away and finally delivered to his potential. So given that I don't think the outcome is that surprising. Plus Dornbush got more ranking points by competing on the GP and at Finlandia compared to Brown on the JGP. Hopefully Brown will get a 2nd spot at SA anyway, the USFS loves him and he's more promising than Rippon at this point IMO so I wouldn't be surprised.

    Korobeynikova had 1 event secured because her WS is in the top 24. Her SB from last season was not in the top 24, but skaters can secure an event by making the cut on either of the WS or SB lists.

    Gosviani had a higher SB than Korobeynikova, but it was still not in the top 24, and her WS was much lower due to limited international competitions, so it is not surprising she did not get any assignments. She could still get the host spot at COR and I tend to think she will unless the Fed is holding out to see if someone like Biryukova, Agafonova, or Korobeynikova (to get a 2nd), really delivers early on this fall.

    Menshov getting 1 vs. Kovtun's 2 is not that surprising. Although controversial, Kovtun simply got to compete in a lot more competitions than Menshov last season which helped him can WS points. Plus he did have 2 JGP golds, gold at the JGPF, and 5th at Europeans with a high score so I really do think he deserves 2 GPs. I think Menshov does too but with the way things worked out last season he simply did not get to compete very many times which limited his chances to gain WS points and raise his SB. Perhaps he can get the host pick...

    Interesting that USFS gave the host pick at SA to Zhang, I was hoping it would go to Cesario, who IMO was much more impressive last season than Zhang and has better chances to possibly make the Olympic team.
     
  17. care bear

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    Tickets for 2013 @HiltonHHonors Skate America will go on sale the same day the participating athletes are named: June 3rd.

    So, I suggest just to wait some hours and we will know TBA for Skate America 2013.
     
  18. pinky166

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    Why would it be? Max is the National Champion and is a quad machine. Lysacek has always struggled with the quad and is now coming off an injury after a 3 year hiatus and has his age working against him, not to mention his 3a technique is squirrelly and is also an iffy jump for him, meaning Max could very feasibly beat him even if Evan were to show up in his 2010 form.
     
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    Menshov was both in the Top 24 WS and Top 24 SB and was guaranteed one. The Russian Fed could have gotten him two by assigning Plushenko and holding two TBAs and forcing another Fed to give one to Menshov up front and then assigning him a second at the end of the summer. Once again they proved what he means to them.

    ETA: I was so wrong. He's assigned to TEB, not RC. So the Russian Fed might do him justice after all. (I'm so used to NHK being in that last column :wall:)
     
  20. caseyedwards

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    Kovtun Euros score could've been higher if he didn't do a double axel in the SP and do 4 combos in the FS! The 4 combos wasn't even because of a mistake on one. He just did four combos? He also bombed Russian nationals losing to Menshov and Gachinski bombed worlds and bombed the WTT. It's amazing the breaks he is getting! Few skaters in Russian skating history have gotten so many breaks. Russian federation is known for punishing and dumping but Kovtun is getting every benefit of the doubt more than any other since 1992 or 1993.
     
  21. pinky166

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    1 GP assignment for Menshov might be for the best considering his health seems fragile. The way his shoulder popped out of the socket at WTT so easily made me a little scared to be honest. Plus he's 30 years old and a very small guy, I'd rather him not get injured again. Plus with only one spot for the men in Sochi it's pretty clear it will either go to Plushenko if he's healthy or Kovtun if he's not (or maybe Gatchinski if he has a very convincing rebound to the top this fall).

    Also Kovtun did not "bomb" Russian Nationals or WTT. He wasn't at his best but I would hardly call his performances at those competitions bombing, at Nationals it just happened that both Voronov and Gatchinski skated pretty well and managed to beat him when they were really the ones who were bombing the rest of the season. Even Kovtun's FS at the Worlds was okay, he really just bombed the SP at Worlds. Plus his score at Euros with the mistake and Zayak just goes to show how high his score could have been if he was totally clean - he could have knocked Brezina off the podium for bronze! His being sent to some competitions was controversial I'll give you that, but I think people need to give Kovtun a break because to his credit he did have a strong season overall, especially the first half, where he beat Han Yan, then the reigning Junior World champ, convincingly at one JGP and beat Josh Farris, who became the new Junior World champ this spring, convincingly at the JGPF. So really, I don't think it's unfair he got 2 GPs at all, especially considering he's from a host country.
     
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    unbelievable japanese fed have decided that early to give tht spot to miyahira and didn't hold an option if ando would have delivered in some test skates or early competitions.

    we speak of a 2-time world champion, one title en route to this olympcis, against a 4th and 7th place finisher at junior worlds
    no words although this was expected
     
  23. npavel

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    It's somehow strange the top 3 skaters skaters have the same couple of events,
    SC, TEB for YuNa Kim, V/M, Chan, D/R
    CoC, CoR for Kostner, B/S, S/S
    SA, NHK for Mao, D/W, V/T
    only Ten and Fernandez have messed it up
     
  24. karlon

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    That is what I had predicted.
    She was not the favorite of Japanese fed, all the time
     
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    Why shouldn't they put her in? It may not make sense for you, but I can see the sense. She won everything on the junior level, so why should she be forced to stay there? And the fact that she may knock some eligible girls off the GP podium? Well, then they are not as good anyway and wouldn't deserve to be on podium to start with!
     
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  26. Marco

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    I had forgotten about Czisny! :eek:

    I hope it was her not asking for it because she feels she would not be ready enough, and not that the US Fed totally skipped her.

    IIRC Cesario has grown out of Juniors.
     
  27. lala

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    Very exciting!

    I'm sad Misha Ge won't compete.
     
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    I thought she was 21 on the SB list, and would have been guaranteed one as a senior, but now I see she's 27. :coffee:

    All but one man, Nathan Chen, in the Top 24 SB is skating Senior next year. Of the 23 seniors, 21 have two each; only Menshov and Brown have one each.

    The next skaters on the SB list are:
    25-Voronov (NHK)
    26-Liebers (CoC, RC)
    27-Rogozine (SC)
    28-Majorov (SA)
    29-Rippon (NHK)
    30-Gachinski (SA)
    31-Ge

    All but TEB TBA's usually are assigned by the end of August/beginning of September, and either Menshov, Voronov, or Gachinski should get the RC TBA. Unless USFS gives it to Johnson (I hope), Rippon or Brown is likely to get SA. With Liebers already with two, that would put Ge in the first alternates group of 5 (if they use the same process as last season), unless Johnson gets SA, in which case, Ge would be in the second alternates group. While all but Majorov are from host Federations, they could have conflicts with the event (already assigned, huge travel costs, three from the country already assigned [there are three US Men in half the events]).

    I was hoping Ge would get CoC, now that he's training there, but maybe he'll get an alternate assignment early enough to be able to get a visa. It would really suck if there was a last-minute spot open for SA, for which he wouldn't have needed a visa were he still training in CA.


    Especially since Miyahara got RC, as she was guaranteed one for being 22nd on the SB list.
     
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  29. rayhaneh

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    Wow, I am still not over the depth of the men's field at NHK - this is going to be a bloodbath (or a splatfest of epic proportions given the amount of tension there might be there)
     
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    Skate Canada makes sense for Yuzuru given that he trains in Canada but I am a little surprised he is not going to NHK. Doesn't the Japanese Federation traditionally invite their national champions to their own Grand Prix?