Glee! Season 4

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by altai_rose, Sep 14, 2012.

  1. znachki

    znachki Active Member

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    The old Rachel would - you remember, the one from the pilot. This one could, but she won't.
  2. Latte

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    I am quickly losing interest in this show. I have no interest in the new people, and I am mad for the old regulars that these new people are taking over the show when the regulars should now have their chance to shine and are still pushed aside.
    I am sad for you Tina, Sam, Arnie, Brittney, and even Unique, Joe, Sugar, Did I leave anyone out?
    How needs these new people?
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  3. Ares

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    Brody :smokin:

    Rachel needs a solo that blows the roof off. It's been a while.
  4. Theatregirl1122

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    We're supposed to be rooting for Finn because he's someone who spent his whole life with words like that being said without any thought and so, yes, he used that word but he also knew immediately that it was wrong. I'm not defending it, but he spent the rest of that speech being the absolute voice of reason for Unique's situation and being the only "adult" who was willing to speak up for her right to be who she is and decide for herself what risks to take. So yes, it ends with a slip of the tongue and using a wrong word but I think we're supposed to understand that Finn's immediate recognition that what he said was wrong is growing up and growing out of where he started this show for Finn. YMMV, of course. But I don't think him saying that word and immediately apologizing should detract from the fact that he was the only one really fighting for Unique while Sue was being horribly transphobic.



    Not at most universities. At my university, you wouldn't even get fired for sleeping with your own student and Brody is not Cassandra's student so I doubt there is anything they could do.


    I guess I'm in a different place than most people here because I'm loving this season more than I've loved Glee in a while.


    Anyways, some spoilers that I thought FSUers would specifically care about for the Christmas episode:

    Darren and Chris shot an ice skating scene in NYC last night. They are singing White Christmas and surrounded by skaters. (There are plenty of fan vids floating around. I can track down the links if anybody cares.) Well, come to find out some of those skaters are pretty familiar!

    From John Kerr's facebook.
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  5. cygnus

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    Glee is being all kinds of awesome tonight! :)
  6. mikey

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    Are you serious? The only episode I can remember that was worse than this one was last year's Christmas fiasco.
  7. cygnus

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    Yes, I'm serious. I thought it was silly and somewhat surreal and went back to the "old" Glee in tone. Loved the superhero songs.

    I agree with you about the Christmas special though.
  8. Erin

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    Yeah, this is the first episode in a long time that I really enjoyed. My favourite moment of the night:
    Blaine: You need a team that gels
    Finn: Yes, we need a team with a lot of gel :D

    On the downside, I felt like the bulimia storyline really didn't need to be dragged out for so long and there was a little bit too much "very special episode" on the dyslexia stuff, but it was still the best episode all season and probably going back into season 3. The superhero theme was fun, "Dark Side" was the first Warbler song I think I've ever liked, and it was great to see a big group number again.
  9. DarrellH

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    Loved seeing Becky, again!
  10. VIETgrlTerifa

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    I felt like I was watching a re-run of The Cosby Show with the whole dyslexia stuff. Plus, if his father has a PhD, you'd think he'd be more aware if his son had trouble reading.

    Also, it's nice that the show acknowledges that the other cast members are getting shafted for Glee the Next Generation, but it does nothing unless they actually do something about it. We still know nothing about Tina other than her storylines were centered around Mike Chang (outside the end of last season where she had an episode dedicated to her just to throw her a bone but now means nothing because we have all these new stars now). When was the last time Artie had a real episode? When Brittany slept with him?

    I even feel bad for Sugar and Jesus Threads now because they were part of the Nationals-winning team, and they're back to just being extras.
  11. Latte

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    Unique wasn't even in the show last night.
    Joe had, what, 1 line?
    I don't think Sugar spoke at all, and Brittney just appears in the background most of the time.
    I will say it again,(and probably every week) that they should never have brought in those new people except what's his name, I can't remember, the winner of Glee Project 2.
  12. judiz

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    worse episode ever
  13. BaileyCatts

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    What the hell was that song number in Kurt and Rachel's apartment?! I think that is the first time that I have ever really did not like a number on Glee. Ever.
  14. my little pony

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    do you mean let's have a kiki / turkey lurkey time?
  15. BaileyCatts

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    ^ Yea. That one. I really hated that.
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  16. my little pony

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    it's two songs, let's have a kiki is by the scissor sisters, turkey lurkey time is from promises promises
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    I hit the mute button
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  18. manleywoman

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    I just want to see the Christmas show this year, since a lot of famous skaters are in the background.
  19. znachki

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    Agh! I'm sorry but it always bugs me when people say that Les Mis is set in the French Revolution (1798). It takes place like 35 years later. It's the June Rebellion - not the revolution.

    And the Kiki/Turkey Lurkey was awful. The rest of the ep wasn't much better.
  20. jamesy

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    I kind of liked that mash-up. :slinkaway
  21. my little pony

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    i liked it too except that sarah jessica parker and her horse face were in it. but even mimi imfurst tweeted that it was really gay.
  22. znachki

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    If they'd just done KiKi, I'd have been OK with it, or just TL, I just didn't like them together.
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    I usually let the logistics go and tell myself it's Hollywood, not real life. However, I had a really hard time accepting that the whole Sectional competition was right on Thanksgiving around 5:00. Come on. All those people in the audience missed Thanksgiving dinner? A little over the top for me.
  24. Latte

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    How much did I hate this episode? Let me count the ways.........
  25. manhn

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    I LOVE that Home/Homeward Bound song. So beautiful.
  26. DarrellH

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    This is feeling more and more like "Degrassi: The Next Generation"
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    I hate the new group. I want the old back. It's .... rehashed. The songs were good though.
  28. maatTheViking

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    I find it ridiculous how the new group is a re-hash of the old group, instead of some unique traits or personalities. Or looks. At least Marley actually seem to be a little different from Rachel, but the eating disorder PBS is too long.

    I think it is strange Rachel went from 16 to 25 in no time.

    I agree with jamesy, I liked that mash-up. It was sufficiently strange :p

    The Kurt/Blaine phone call had me all tearing up (or maybe it is the pregnancy hormones), and I actually somehow think it would be good for Kurt to move on and get some different relationship experience from a story pov.
  29. VIETgrlTerifa

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    The problem I have with the new group (other than being carbon copies of the old) is that I understand they need to ease them in in order for the audience to care about them for the show in the long-run, but they have taken over the storylines completely when Rachel and Kurt aren't having problems in NYC.
  30. jamesy

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    I might care about the new cast more if they were better integrated with the veteran group and not off in their own subclique.
  31. maatTheViking

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    Yeah, why did Kitty not try to sink her claws in Sam or Jesus? Or Marley date Artie?
  32. my little pony

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    ita, plus i cant look at kitty. she looks too old or her pony tail is too tight and makes her face look bad.
  33. manhn

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    In the premier episode, I thought the writers were gonna hook up Sam and Marley. But that obviously didn't happen.

    In their defence, they have whatshisname as Puck's half-brother and whatshisothername as Finn's protege.

    I think I am most disappointed in how the originals who are still in Glee club are so utterly ignored (even Idiot Brittany who I normally hate). Those first episodes had them hang out and stuff, but no more--Blaine is sulking alone, Tina and Arties are losing out parts to people who are no longer in high school, and we still have no idea whatever happened to Sam and Mercedes. And Jesus and Sugar have been doing nothing. Sugar should go after whatshisothername or whathisname.

    But ultimately, I still prefer the high school scenes over the New York scenes. I don't buy anything that is taking place there.

    Next season (and unlike some people, I have no concern that this show will be canceled), I think they should Fast Forward the next five years. Rachel et al. have established careers. A lot of them have returned to Ohio (which happens). Mike and Tina are married. Some of them may even have kids. Some are teaching (or student teaching) at McGinley. Brittany can still be a senior. Have a completely new group of students taking part in Glee club. It's not like Marley et al will be that huge a loss.

    ETA: Tonight's episode was pretty good. I enjoyed all the high school scenes (and the phone conversation between Rachel and Finn). As for the New York stuff, I much preferred Kurt's first NYADA audition. Just because the song tonight is more maudlin doesn't mean the performance is more soulful.

    I hope Tina still resents Marley.
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  34. judiz

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    I know it's a tv show but seriously, how can a team be disqualified from competition because one of its members faints on stage? How could Mr Schuster not rush out and protest that decision to the judges? And I really cannot believe they are blaming Marley for the loss when two years ago they lost nationals due to Finn and Rachel's kiss. JMO
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    But Santana almost killed Finn and Rachel over that stunt. Maybe that is why Finn did not blame Marley.
  36. VIETgrlTerifa

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    I sort of feel bad for Jane Lynch. Her character is utterly thankless now.

    This episode clearly showed that nobody is the "new" Rachael. Her voice is extraordinary when used properly.

    I do think the show was smart with having them lose because it allows the show to follow a totally different formula from the past 3 seasons. That said, it really sucks for Artie, Tina, Sam, and Blaine since this was their senior year and you know they wanted to go out on top. I wish they save that storyline for next season as I don't care if the new kids win or not.

    I did enjoy the group number in the end. "Don't Dream it's Over" is such a great song, and I could've used more of that and a little less of Kurt's unconvincing "Being Alive".

    I guess that's the end of Sugar? Is she going to join Matt, Laura Izes, and Leprechaun into Glee oblivion? On that note if Kurt goes to NYADA, I guess that's no more SJP either?
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  37. Latte

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    I had read on several Glee Spoiler pages that Damian/Rory would appear on the Thanksgiving eppie. Since he was not on last week or this week, I guess they cut it because he had filmed it.
    I loved the last song, too bad the rest of the show wasn't that good.
    And why was a Jewish girl singing Oh Holy Night anyway?:D
  38. VIETgrlTerifa

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    For Rachael, it was probably less about the content of the song than about being able to show off her higher register.

    Or it was just the writers wanting us to forget she's Jewish, like last year's Christmas episode until the final scene where she said "Happy Hanukkah"
  39. mikey

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    Even she was embarassed by the Kiki piece...
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    I think the Glee club will get a surprise pass into Nationals and that will be their challenge for the season.