Get your twinkies & ding dongs while you can!

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Buzz, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. Kasey

    Kasey Loving on babies!

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    I haven't had a Twinkie in over 40 years, since the "Great Twinkie Rebellion" at age 4, when I started flushing them down the toilet for the TidyBowl man (google it, children). Needless to say, for me, they won't be missed.
     
  2. milanessa

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    Just like me and you those workers have bought homes and cars based on their income. Some are sending their kids through college. Some are supporting elderly parents. I haven't heard any figures as to how much of a cut in pay and benefits they were asked to take, only that it was "deep". Kind of like being asked to pay more taxes to keep the US afloat, isn't it? Upsets retirement plans and everyday life when you've trusted in a contract.
     
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  3. Coco

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    Little Debbie marshmallow treats (aka rice krispie bars) are AMAZING.

    Haven't had hostess in years, but the hohos will be missed and Suzie Q's, well, those were decadent. However, they are made by a few others, so - phew!

    Hostess products are seriously scary. Whenever I ate one as a kid, I alwys regretted it.
     
  4. Simone411

    Simone411 Just Flip-Flopping Around

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    Awwww! :fragile: I remember my brother and me riding our bikes to the corner store when either our mom or dad would give each of us a dime. Hostess cupcakes were a nickel (two to a package) and the 6 ounce bottled cokes were a nickel. I believe they were 6 ounce bottles or either 7 ounce. It was always a treat when we got that dime. That was around 1965 or 1966.
     
  5. smileyskate

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    I have the same view (also still have not read details). The few people that I knew who used to work for them were supporting families on what they made and I don't recall it being lavish (again no full details).

    I haven't eaten their goods in a while but some say they are not making them the same. Worse in texture and taste. The bigger guy on TMZ (lol-I just happened by his comments) said they don't have the same amount of white cream in them that they used to. I guess he'd know.
     
  6. lulu

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    What?! Now that's messed up. :p
     
  7. Southpaw

    Southpaw Saint Smugpawski

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    What? None for the Scrubbing Bubbles? How about Mr. Whipple? Don't they rate?
     
  8. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

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    Oh, yes, I remember peeling off the pink marshmallow part, aiming for it to be in one piece, and saving it for after the cake. Beat frosting any day :)
     
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  9. Southpaw

    Southpaw Saint Smugpawski

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    No more Chocodiles either.
     
  10. Garden Kitty

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    Alex Shibutani weighs in on twitter:

     
  11. Twizzler

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    I won't miss the Twinkies- never liked them. It's the orange cupcakes I'm upset about!!!
     
  12. lulu

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    :rofl: Alex cracks me up.
     
  13. purple skates

    purple skates Shadow dancing

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    The Teamsters urged the bakers to take the deal, based on their review of the records. The Teamsters aren't known for being pro-management, so I can only assume that they knew the truth of what was going on. it's the bakers who were stupid -- but hey! They stood their ground and now nobody there has jobs. Way to go!
     
  14. cruisin

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    And yet, many think paying more taxes is a good thing. And if taxes go up, we will have no choice but to pay it. So, we will have less, not nothing.
     
  15. PeterG

    PeterG Hanyuflated

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    From wikipedia:

    When is there NOT corporate greed? :huh:

    You took money from the government for hours that you did not work?

    Also from wikipedia:

    The employees saw their co-workers losing their jobs while the corporate heads were not only failing at their jobs, but taking pay increases.

    I read that the workers took a pay cut around 2006 and were asked to take another pay cut recently while...

    Gregory Rayburn, Hostess CEO, Allegedly Got 300 Percent Raise As Company Approached Bankruptcy

     
  16. milanessa

    milanessa engaged to dupa

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    Of course you have a choice, you just have to pay the consequences. And they have chosen that route.
     
  17. Karina1974

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    Hey, that was my employer's decision to go with that program, not mine. I would much rather be working 40 hours a week than 32. FYI - we were allowed to be on this program for 53 weeks, but the POB decided to stop after 40 weeks, so that was a managerial decision that paid off for the company. And then a year ago every employee received a bonus check to make up for the fact that we hadn't gotten a COLA increase since 2008 (I got an increase this past March). We made it through with no layoffs - only two employees left, but that was their own choosing, & I took over for one of them, so I was bumped back to 40/week before anyone else was; I'm a firm believer in cross-training and taking on multiple responsibilities - it shows a person to be more of an asset to a company than those who say "it's not MY job!" so I was glad to do it.

    That is nuts about the CEO getting an increase. One thing that stands out in my acenario is that fact that the owner of the company where I work stopped receiving a paycheck during that whole downturn (yep - he gets a 40/week tally and a paystub like everyone else). He's very consistant in putting his workers first (like giving us TWO 4-day weekends for Christmas and New Year's with Holiday Pay as opposed to making us use our Vacation/Personal Time :) ).
     
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  18. Japanfan

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    But should people just accept a pay cut, when they have already had a pay cut, and are probably having a lot of trouble making ends meet? Earning a fair wage was one of the major goals of unions and it seems reasonable to me. Do you want to live in a world where people are working for what amounts to slave wages? Especially if you are one of them? And companies are profiting off your backs while you count your pennies?

    Sure, you can say that any wage is better than no wage and it's true to a point. But the minimum is barely holding up in many places - people need to earn a living wage.
     
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  19. Garden Kitty

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    Rayburn was hired in March of this year as a restructuring expert to help the company through bankruptcy, and shortly after the bankruptcy he was promoted to CEO presumably with a corresponding raise. He didn't cause the financial problems at the company, but has significant restructuring experience maximizing value whether through a reorg if possible or a liquidation. His contract as CEO was approved by the bankruptcy court and interested parties had a chance to review and object as part of the court process.

    The original article has been updated with a correction:

     
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  20. Susan1

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    Our news reported that so many people stocked up when the story came out that they can't find any.

    And they just came out with chocolate filled Twinkies not long ago! I like some Little Debbie things, but they don't make the strawberry cupcakes. I don't even like sugary stuff that much, but half of a chocolate filled Twinkie or the cupcake without the icing hits the "desert" spot. Little Debbie has always been cheaper, but about a month ago, Kroger had Hostess on sale 2 boxes for $5. I should have stocked up then!!!
     
  21. Garden Kitty

    Garden Kitty Tranquillo

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    Uggggghhhh, I hadn't thought of them!
     
  22. sk8pics

    sk8pics Well-Known Member

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    I love those orange cupcakes, too. Sigh.
     
  23. GarrAarghHrumph

    GarrAarghHrumph I can kill you with my brain

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    At the facility up here near me, employees took a 20% pay cut in their last contract. I don't know if benefits and etc. were affected as well at that time.

    That's really the thing that the workers up here are talking about - the majority of the workers, who were Teamsters, had already accepted the new deal. The bakers union held out, and brought the company down.

    The workers seem torn over what's happened - some are talking about the reality of trying to find a new job up here, where jobs of that type and salary/benefit structure aren't plentiful; they don't seem angry at the baker's union - more numb, with some anger at management. Others are saying that they'd already given so much in the last negotiation (the 20% cut negotiation), when they had been told then they had to take those severe cuts to save the company. So they took that deal, and yet the company's situation did not improve, so they felt they couldn't take the cuts again - that doing so would be just as useless as the last round of cuts; that they were being used and manipulated.
     
  24. Really

    Really No longer just a "well-known member" Yay!

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    Maybe this is why some of unionized workers were skeptical?
     
  25. PeterG

    PeterG Hanyuflated

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    :huh:

    The workers took a pay cut and then were asked to take another pay cut. Meanwhile, the executives were getting raises, with salaries in the seven figures range. How can you say that workers brought the company down?? :confused:
     
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  26. GarrAarghHrumph

    GarrAarghHrumph I can kill you with my brain

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    In my post, I was reporting what local employees of this company were saying, not what I think.
     
  27. Simone411

    Simone411 Just Flip-Flopping Around

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    One of my friends posted on FB the other day and said that her DH was more than likely going to lose his job. He had been working for Hostess for over 20 years. They had investments in the company and feared they would probably lose it all.
     
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  28. PeterG

    PeterG Hanyuflated

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    What job did he hold? My guess is that if he's one of the executives, he does not need to worry about losing a penny of his investments.
     
  29. lurvylurker

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    Ahh, no worries up here in Canada: The company that owns the Hostess brand here is fine and will continue to produce all the goodies for us Canucks. Now Twinkies will join Red Rose tea and Coffee Crisp bars in being "only in Canada eh?". :)
     
  30. susan6

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    I was just in World Market yesterday, going through the awesome foreign candy and cookies aisles and it hit me.....Twinkies might show up here in the next few years, as a Canadian import!

    http://www.worldmarket.com/category/food-and-drink/international-favorites.do