Genrich Sretenski Arrested!

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  1. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    If she's under the age of consent then it's criminal. Whether you like it or not, whether consent was involved or not. End of story.
  2. tralfamadorian

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    I thought age of consent was 16 in the US, isn't it?
  3. Artistic Skaters

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    It would vary state to state.
  4. tralfamadorian

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    Ok so I checked it's 16 in MD and 17 in NY.
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    Wait, so if age of consent is 16, then maybe there is not so much of a problem here? A ruined reputation, yes. . . . But, tralfamadorian is right. . . we need to know what is in the sealed charges to understand the extent of all this. I probably spoke to quickly before. It will be hard for Sretenski to recover again in terms of his coaching career; but, from a legal standpoint, this is certainly fightable.
  6. RFOS

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    The alleged incident in the hotel room happened in Lake Placid, which is why he's being asked to turn himself into New York authorities, not Maryland authorities, and the alleged victim and/or her family reported him to the authorities and are filing a suit then I think that would imply it wasn't consensual. If it wasn't consensual then it would be a crime regardless of the age of consent. So yes, it could be quite a problem for him.
  7. Frau Muller

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    Twelve hours to go. Hopefully he'll make it up to NY today, if he's not already there.
  8. berthesghost

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    I feel the opposite. He was accused a year ago of doing terrible things that would make him negligent in his job, yet his boss kept him on, and his clients all kept him on teaching their kids. Even now that it's all blown up they are coming out of the woodwork to defend him (and thus themselves) and famous skating legends back in Russia are doing press fluff about how it's all just overreaction by silly Americans. If he gets off, he's just one plane ride away from job security with the Russian federation.

    But the fact that they made him put up his house as collateral shows that the charges against him are pretty serious and may be hard to shake. After all, so far niether he nor his defenders have denied a single charge, they just deny that any of it was "wrong".
  9. Twizzler

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    Since the arrest happened a year after the alleged incident, is it certain that his boss and the rink knew of the allegations? Genrich's arrest may have completely come as a shock to everyone at the rink.

    I agree that he can easily be accepted back in Russia if he escapes the charges. I would think that he'll get some kind of ban from USFS/PSA even if he's found not guilty. Going back to Russia might be his best bet.
  10. MacMadame

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    I'd be very surprised if they did that. They haven't done stuff like that in the past.

    I also would be surprised if sending tons of text messages to a student and fondling them against their will was really acceptable behavior in Russia. Maybe it wouldn't be illegal there but I would think that people would still be tsk-tsking about it and that there might be assignments that wouldn't be given and other political fallout.
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    In some states there are different ages based on the adult's relationship to a child. For example, if the adult is just a neighbor of the child, the age of consent is 16. If the adult has some type of authority over the child--such as a coach, teacher or minister--the age of consent may be 18.

    I think the best rule of thumb is, if you have to check your state's laws to find out if the shag is legal, she's too young for you.
  13. Twizzler

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    ?? The Mero's, Bob Young, an official recently got a ban (drawing a blank on the name), and there was a free skating coach who I believe was banned back in early 2000's (not 100% sure so I don't want to post their name). There is precedent.

    If the text messages allude to some sort of "affair" as some have posted, that is enough to warrant some kind of action from PSA.
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    Is there really any indication that they'd be different?
  15. berthesghost

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    I think it's logistics/geography. He allegedly fondled her in ny. He allegedly stalked her in md resulting in her ending her career.

    From what's been published, I gather that she quit back in aug '11, so the club might have know at least the accusations.
  16. Frau Muller

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    Earlier, some of the posters from the Gardens Arena area had hinted at that. I guess that we will soon find out, as details of the alleged NY incident will be revealed after the arraignment.
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  18. michiruwater

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    In Maryland:

    So it is illegal regardless.
  19. flipforsynchro

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    I never said it was right. I was just pointing out that there ARE 16 year old girls who want to get with much older men. I seriously doubt that is the case here, and it doesn't seem to happen much, but it does happen.
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    I CANNOT believe some of these posts. Is 16 the age of consent or 17???? He is 50! He is her teacher! It is all too young, it is WRONG. Legal or illegal, it is MORALLY wrong for a teacher to fondle his teenage student. Again, if this were your daughter, would it matter if she was 16 or 17???
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    Is "full-time, permanent employee" the only definition of "position of authority?" From what's been written so far, Sretenski was neither a full-time employee at the rink nor a full-time employee of the skater/her family. He would have been a independent contractor. Do contractors like coaches, Girl Scout leaders, adjunct professors, etc. fall into the correct legal category?
  23. misskarne

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    I think you'll find that sporting coaches definitely come under the "position of authority" rule. I know they do here.
  24. michiruwater

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    I've never heard of a coach not falling into 'position of authority', so I would be shocked if he did not qualify for that rule, as weirdly worded as it is.
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  26. demetriosj

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    Exactly, how can anyone even begin to try to defend this behavior in any way?

    so it's ok if he technically was an independent contractor????!!!!! Unreal.
  27. berthesghost

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    I'm confused about how discussion of the specifics of the law is being construed as "defense". Prosecutors pour over the law to determine how exactly to charge an alleged criminal and make it stick. Are all prosecution lawyers defending criminals then?
  28. MacMadame

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    Which is part of why there are some of the laws that there are and why the onus always falls on the grown up to BE the grown up.
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    I guess someone is going to get banned, and this thread will be closed shortly.

    C'est la vie.
  30. SHARPIE

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    I guess you've been in the PSYKIK hospital :)

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