Fumie Suguri failed to qualify for Japanese Nationals again

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  1. shady82

    shady82 New Member

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    I believe Sarah Meier was battling injuries during that quad, and therefore had trouble placing well. She did skate very well at Worlds in 2004, but that was such a strong field she got buried out of the top 10. I think Sarah was given surprisingly high marks at SLC, especially considering that her marks given during the GP circuit indicated she would finish distantly behind Suguri. IMO she was robbed in Torino, where she improved but was only placed 10th in the SP.

    I also don't think Fumie will get past this season (really? that's going to get as nut as things can possibly be). How many other ladies' skaters competed at this level after the age of 30? The only one I can think of is Patricia Mansfield, and I believe Marta Andrade (neither well-known to casual followers). But considering how mad she sounds already, who knows..
     
  2. judgejudy27

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    I remember Patricia Mansfield from the 95 Nationals where she was 5th. While she wasnt a polished or technically sound skater she was lots of fun to watch. Probably my favorite performance that year, even if her skills were in no way competitive with the top girls. I never knew she even continued though as I dont recall seeing her again.
     
  3. Susan M

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    I think my placements would be similar. I thought then and still think Slutskaya deserved 1st in the SP. Kwan's overall ice quality were so superior to all the rest that I can see keeping her in second and I thought Cohen was a clear third (though I was surprised the judges put such a young and new skater there). I can see the judges' dilemma with the next 4 - each had some strengths and some weaknesses.

    Hughes had a pretty big flutz but I think she may have been rewarded for doing her lutz combo with 2 loop rather than 2 toe, her speed and the quality of her layback spin position. Without a more obvious error, I can see placing her 4th and Suguri 5th.

    Sebastien may have had the best jumps after Slutskaya, but overall her skating looks mid-tier. I'd have her 6th.

    Of all the skaters mentioned, IMO Butryskaya is the one who was majorly propped up by the judges. Butryskaya had weird edge on the landing of the 3F, then barely eeked out the 3 lutz combination. IMO of these seven skaters, she should have been last.

    (I stopped at 7 rather than hunt down and rewatch the rest of the Sp skates again.)
     
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    Butyrskaya had a high free leg on the landing of the lutz but overall she had great speed and flow out of that jump combination, it wasn't eeked out at all. Her flip was technically clean as well and she was one of the few skaters who had clean takeoff edges on lutz and flip (Gusmeroli was another skater but she had almost no steps before the triple flip). Her double axel and flying camel were of very high quality. I can see why people think that she deserved to be behind Kwan (even though she cheated the flip and I found her steps very easy) but TBH I don't see how she could end behind Hughes who did her usual small cheated toe jumps and had IMO a very mediocre program.

    For me also, Slutskaya was the best skater in that SP. The quality and difficulty of her required elements (and that is what the SP is mostly about) were the best of the night and that wasn't even close.

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    My placements of the SP (they might be controversial)

    1. Slutskaya 5.8/5.7
    2. Cohen 5.6/5.7
    3. Suguri 5.5/5.7
    4. Kwan 5.4/5.8
    5. Butyrskaya 5.5/5.6
    6. Sebestyen 5.6/5.4
    7. Gusmeroli 5.2/5.5
    8. Hughes 5.1/5.6
     
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  6. judgejudy27

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    5.1 and 5.6 are the highest marks Hughes should have gotten from any judge IMO. It is funny there was so much fuss about one judge who put her 10th when she arguably deserved to be closer to 10th than the 4th place she was given.
     
  7. tkaug

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    Slutskaya landed 3F and 3Lo at the age of 33 at Medal Winner's Open last year.
     
  8. tkaug

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    She is going to do a Canada's local game Summer Skate 2013 in August.


    http://www.skatecanada-centralontario.com/Irma/Summer Skate 2013/Final Interim 10jul13.pdf


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    Costello Kassie Capital City SC
    Daleman Gabrielle Hilltop SC
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  9. tkaug

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    It was announced as "did not register" in the arena. I was disappointed!
     
  11. Dr.Siouxs

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    NooooOOOOOOOOOOoo0000oooOOOOoooooOOOoooo000 :fragile:
     
  12. Jammers

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    Maybe reality hit her in the face finally. :lol:
     
  13. Dr.Siouxs

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    actually, she just needs more time to work on her quad toe and triple axel. :sekret:
     
  14. Jammers

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    :lol:
     
  15. judgejudy27

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    My first thought as well.
     
  16. Dr.Siouxs

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    I wasn't kidding you inane tart. :mad: Fumie for gold 2014!!! :soapbox:
     
  17. PeterG

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    Kevin Reynolds withdrew from BC Summer Skate, so he must be a has-been as well.

    Which other skaters withdrew from a teeny August event that we can add to the all-washed-up list?
     
  18. DobrinFan

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    ^Apparently whoever doesn't skate absolutely clean programs in AUGUST must all be washed up, i.e. Osmond, Sotnikova, Tutk, etc......so why should Fumie be excluded? :rofl:
     
  19. tkaug

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    Because those skaters you mention are all teenagers and Suguri is 32. ;)
     
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  20. tkaug

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    Isabelle Henderson Memorial Invitational Competition
    September 20, 2013 to September 22, 2013

    Fumie Suguri Japan SP 41.93(TES 21.13/PCS 20.80) FP 60.60(TES 22.60/PCS 38.00) Total 102.53
     
  21. PairSk8Fan

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    I simply do not understand her career at all at this point. Is she independently wealthy as to afford a life of following delusional dreams of grandeur in a manner similar to Zelda Fitzgerald? We know what happened to Zelda, dying in the insane asylum fire after being committed following multiple failed attempts to be a prima ballerina in her 30's.
     
  22. Sylvia

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    I'm sorry, what was that again?
     
  25. bardtoob

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    Mmm ... I think Fumie has already been too successful to be this.

    I think she continues to skate because a Japanese company literally pays her to train, as it says in the article. There is a saying in baseball that we are all told when it is time to stop playing a child's game, some are told at 18 and some are told at 40. She has not been told yet.
     
  26. kittyjake5

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    Great interview with Fumie, thanks for sharing!
     
  27. tkaug

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    She has been told to quit by her family and many other people many times for years, but she wouldn't listen to them.
     
  28. bardtoob

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    Probably because she makes money doing it.
     
  29. VIETgrlTerifa

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    Do you always listen to what other people tell you to do?
     
  30. Coco

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    I would think the scores have been doing some telling :(