From Russia With Love - Winter 2012/13

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    Gatchinski can definitely do 4s in practice, I feel like I've read that in articles for a few seasons now. I assume once he gets more consistent with his current content he'll add the other quads to the program. Also, Ando would have gone for the 4s if she felt she needed it, but by the end of her career, she didn't need it or even a 3-3 to win big events so it wasn't worth the risk. With quads becoming so prominent in the men's field I wouldn't be surprised if Artur starts trying different quads in his programs.
  2. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    I remember Mishin (or Artur?) saying in an interview that they were originally planning on adding the 4Lo in the second half of last season, but obviously things weren't going quite well enough for them to happy doing that...
  3. julieann

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    Bazarova and Larionov won't compete at nationals because Larionov is having trouble breaking in his new skates. Their coach said that the fed will decide if they are going to Euros :( I can't imaging they will say no.
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  5. Jeschke

    Jeschke Well-Known Member

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    puh, this is hard. so there is really no chance for s/k or m/r making the team?

    only if the russian fed totally dumps k/s, what won´t happen.

    b/l had a good season and surely deserve this spot, but i don´t like the aftertaste.
  6. Eislauffan

    Eislauffan Well-Known Member

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    He landed a quad Salchow in practice at Nationals today.
  7. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    Hm. 2-quad short? It would be quite risky. Or perhaps a 3-quad long?

    Or Mishin just toying with us all. ;)


    How's everyone looking, Eislauffan?
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  8. erkatica

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    Hi everyone!:) I'm a new member of FSU and a GREAT fan of the russian figure skating! Does anyone have a link for the nationals? I don't fint it:( Thanks for everyone:) (Sorry for my english).
  9. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Welcome to FSU! There will be discussion/results/play-by-play threads for Russian Nationals in the Kiss and Cry (competition) section of this board starting on Dec. 25: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?270-National-Championships-Other (Kiss and Cry access/subscription info can be found in the Board Business section)

    Online viewing options (including any working links) should be posted in this thread in the TV Alerts forum: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...(Dec-25-28-2012)-ungeoblocked-viewing-options
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  10. AKISIN

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    Ivan Bariev, Why does not he participate in Russian Nationals??
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  12. Moka-Ananas

    Moka-Ananas Well-Known Member

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    Apparently Gachinski has problems with his boots that is also why he took them off immediately after his skate. The doctors don't know exactly what is wrong.
  13. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    AGAIN? Ugh. Poor Artur.

    Actually, this seems to be becoming a bigger problem around the world. I seem to hear of boot problems a lot more lately.
  14. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

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    Remind us of how long you have been following figure skating, please, misskarne. :saint:
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  15. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    Can one not make an observation anymore without attracting criticism?

    It just seems that there have been a lot of boot problems lately. Sheesh.
  16. Moka-Ananas

    Moka-Ananas Well-Known Member

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    he said something about an "unpleasant feeling" in his feet which is getting stronger when he doesn't take off his boots.
  17. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    Sounds to me like his feet are going to sleep. That's usually a fitting problem or a lacing problem, but I can't imagine a skater of his level having a lacing problem, and I'd have thought he'd be in customs...
  18. lulu

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  19. Moka-Ananas

    Moka-Ananas Well-Known Member

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    yep, she will perform a new FP tomorrow
  20. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Hm, I didn't mind the old one. It was better than last year's.
  21. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Belated answer (in case you're still wondering)... Medvedeva didn't compete as a senior in the Russian Cup qualifying competitions so it appears she is only qualified to compete at Junior Nationals this season. This question came up again in the Russian Nationals Ladies SP thread in Kiss and Cry today and was answered by hanca here: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...ls-Ladies-SP&p=3779498&viewfull=1#post3779498
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    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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  23. Kasey

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    Voronov had a higher TES in the short program as well, by a little less than a point I think. Well done, Sergei!
  24. rfisher

    rfisher Satisfied skating fan

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    Plushenko is a legend. He may not be as artistic as Takahashi or Chan, but his confidence and command of the ice is superior to both. I think it would be one of those olympic moments if he won a 4th olympic medal. I know that happens in some other sports, but not in skating. I hope he stays healthy and has two performances of his life next winter.
  25. julieann

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    ^ ITA!

    In this day and age 4 Olympic medals would be amazing! S/Z have 3 in 4 tries and that was amazing enough; I can't wait until Sochi!
  26. lulu

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    Well said. Even without a 4th olympic medal, he's already a legend in the sport, but if he wins a medal in Sochi in 2014 that would be one for the ages. :)
  27. Macassar88

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    Yay! Tuktamisheva decides to skate in spite of her illness and walks away with her first national championship!
  28. Vash01

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    Nobody can match his presence/command on the ice- not even Takahashi, IMHO. Every time he takes the ice, he has the audience in the palm of his hand. Yes, he is a legend, and if he wins even a bronze in Sochi, it will be a phenomenal achievement to an already phenomenal career. What I really want for him is to stay healthy enough to skate well in both SP & LP in Sochi. If he wins the gold in Sochi (extremely low probability of this, with Chan, Takahashi, Fernandez skating at their peak), I would call him the greatest figure skater ever.
  29. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Top 8 Ladies at Russian Nationals:
    1 Елизавета ТУКТАМЫШЕВА SPG 196.57 1 1 Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
    2 Елена РАДИОНОВА MSK 191.26 3 2 Elena Radionova (not age-eligible for 2013 Euros/Worlds)
    3 Аделина СОТНИКОВА MSK 190.75 2 3 Adelina Sotnikova
    4 Серафима САХАНОВИЧ SPB 177.37 9 4 Serafima Sakhanovich (not age-eligible for 2013 Euros/Worlds, born Feb. 9, 2000: http://www.fskate.ru/skaters/1839.html )
    5 Анна ПОГОРИЛАЯ MSK 176.58 5 5 Anna Pogorilaya (not age-eligible for 2013 Euros/Worlds)
    6 Николь ГОСВИЯНИ SPB 170.67 8 6 Nikol Gosviani (doesn't have TES minimum scores for Euros since she hasn't competed internationally since the fall of 2010 according to her ISU bio: http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00010707.htm )
    7 Алёна ЛЕОНОВА MSP 169.64 6 8 Alena Leonova
    8 Ксения МАКАРОВА SPB 163.83 12 7 Ksenia Makarova
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  30. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Leonova's new FS is a depressing version of Concierto de Aranjuez, unfortunately.
  31. Macassar88

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    No it's not. Her skate is a series of poorly executed elements that happen to be going on at the same time as Aranjuez is in the background.
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  32. Moka-Ananas

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    Graveyard Aranjuez. At least it (probably) fits to her career nowadays.
  33. hanca

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    I am just curious which Russian pairs are eligible for juniors next season and which will age out. And from those who age out, who can compete in seniors and who is too young.

    Tarasova-Morozov - his DOB is 01.11.1992, will he be too old to compete internationally for juniors? (If he is, she is old enough to go to seniors, but I am not sure if they would get any GP event :( )

    Davankova- Deputat - his DOB is 20.12.1992, will he be too old to compete internationally for juniors? Her DOB is 02.05.1998 so she would be too young for seniors.

    Antipova- Maisuradze - her DOB is 18.12.1997, so she will be too young next season to compete internationally in seniors, isn't she? (and he is too old for juniors).
  34. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Davankova/Deputat and Tarasova/Morozov both are still ISU junior age-eligible in 2013-14 (Davankova will be 15 by July 1st and old enough for ISU senior championships). The male pair/dancer's maximum age won't be lowered by one year until the 2014-15 season.
    ETA: Also still ISU Junior age-eligible next season are Fedorova/Miroshkin, Vigalova/Zakroev, Gainetdinova/Bich, Tudvaseva/Lisiev.

    Antipova/Maisuradze can do Senior Bs/GP (host pick)/ISU Championships next season since she turned 15 this month. The female pair/dancer's minimum age for all ISU senior events won't be raised to 15 until the 2014-15 season.
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  35. hanca

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    Thank you Sylvia. I wasn't thinking about B competitions, I was curious about GP events and JGP events.

    So Antipova-Maisuradze are not out of running for Sochi as she is old enough. (not that they would have a huge chance, because first three teams are obviously V-T, K-S and B-L, but you never know who gets injured and if either of those teams couldn't attend, it would be between S-K, M-R who are inconsistent, and G-E who missed whole season. I think Antipova-Maisuradze would have a chance if someone from the first three teams got injured.)

    I am glad that Davankova/Deputat and Tarasova/Morozov both are still ISU junior age-eligible in 2013-14. The JGP are good for getting some points towards world standings. It would be a shame if the male partners were too old for juniors and the female partners too young for seniors.
  36. sk8indel

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    Does anyone have a preliminary roster for Russian Junior Nationals? If there are kids born in '00 in seniors, I wonder how young the juniors will be 0_o
  37. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Re-posting from Russian Nationals Ladies FS thread in Kiss and Cry:
    Here's the article: http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20121228/637444380.html
    Via Google Translate: http://translate.google.com/transla...ort.ru/figure_skating/20121228/637444380.html

    Bazarova/Larionov were also nominated for Euros by the Coaching Council, according to the article.

    Russian Nationals Men top 5:
    1 Evgeni Plushenko 265.94 1 1
    2 Sergei Voronov 254.06 2 2
    3 Konstantin Menshov 228.88 6 3
    4 Artur GachinskiSPB 227.46 4 4
    5 Maxim Kovtun 225.02 3 5

    The article ends as follows:
    "Coaching Council decision is a recommendation. FFKKR executive committee, which must approve the composition of the Russian national team, will meet at 9 am Friday."

    ETA:
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  38. alchemy void

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    Major kudos to Russian federation if they send Gosviani to Euros (and get her a quick senior B). I'm still willing to bet Leonova is sent, unfortunately. The thing is, Leonova just didn't bomb nationals, she has been skating worse and worse with each competition...also her new LP is a dreadful downgrade from what she had before. I actually love Leonova but clearly she needs to re-evaluate where she is at right now. (New coach please!)

    Remember, in 1999, Slutskaya was the reigning world silver medalist and lost her Worlds spot so there is precedent. It also served as a nice wake up call as Irina's career got back on track the following season.
  39. kwanfan1818

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    It would be pretty awful for Gosviani to be nominated and have that be known publicly, were the executive committee to ignore the recommendation and choose otherwise. According to the article, the coaches at the meeting included Mishin, Kudryatsev, and Morozov.
  40. SamuraiK

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    There are only two senior B before Euros (New Year Cup and Volvo Open) and both's deadlines for entries have already closed, so I think is a moot point for Gosviani sadly.