From Russia With Love - Spring into Summer 2013

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  1. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

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    First of all, I posted this article not so that I could trick people into looking at soft core porn but so that I could share an article about a very popular Russian skater and some news about her program. I think that you're taking this too seriously. Anyway, I have ad-block on my computer so I didn't realize that there were offensive ads.

    Second of all, I don't think you've ever actually brought this up with me. Maybe you're confusing me with someone else.
  2. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Macassar88, your link is broken.

    This interview with Elizaveta Tuktamisheva is mostly about her time in South Korea (April 26-May 6) skating in Bobrin's ice show tour:
    http://fsrussia.ru/news/596_elizave...-dobavil-svezhesti-i-novizny-moim-programmam/
    Via Google Translate:
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    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

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  4. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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  5. Jeschke

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    give my best;

    she talks about the upcoming seasons; they had many proposals for the music but she said it is to early to give any details, her pupils just started to be back in training. furtehrmore they are trying to get/stay healthy.

    question about her personal taste of music: classic pieces, contemproary arrangements, opera.

    talk about summer camps. didn't get this really. she didn't want to go to latvia like zhulin

    question if k/s have someone to challenge in practice; she agrees in mentioning gerboldt/enbert

    talk about many skaters are leaving st.petersburg for moscow. she claims financial issues reasonable for this. income and support seems to bigger in moscow.

    bobrova/soloviev, kovtun, sotnikova are mentioned, who are touring in different shows. kavaguti/smirnov will focus on getting and steay healthy and need extra time for rehabilittation. the olympic season is much more important than the shows in summer.

    they went healthy into thw worlds and if they get some invitations and their bodies are okay, they may join some shows.

    talk about the syncro of k/s which seems to get better and better. moskvina says it s a lot of work to get that syncro and its important mentioning berezhnaya/sikharulidze vasiliev and dimitriev with partners who had also great syncro.

    olxmpic torch will travel through st.petersburg, she gets an official invitation to carry the torch, but she can't give any details now, because she doesn't know which grand prixs k/s are getting and so she doesn't know, if she will be in town.
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  6. Vash01

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    Thanks so much for the translation! I like it that K&S are focusing on getting healthy for the Olympic season.

    The younger skaters need the experience skating with tours to improve their artistry. For Yuko and Sasha, staying healthy is more important.

    It will be so great to see the great Tamara Moskvina carrying the Olympic torch!

    Is she definitely going to retire from coaching after Sochi Olympics?
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    I'm confused: is Jeffrey Buttle choreographing Tuktamysheva's SP or is Yuri Smekalov? Or is she having multiple programs done?
  8. Vagabond

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    No, I am not confusing you with anybody else. Go back and read posts 179, 194, and 195 in this very thread.

    It's really very simple. If you want to post the information from those websites, you can (1) do so without posting a link, (2) post a warning, and/or (3) turn off your "really strong ad block" before you post just to make sure that there isn't a link.

    I would prefer not to put you on "Ignore," as I find many of your posts interesting and informative, but if this is how you feel about posting pornographic links, I may have no choice.
  9. Eislauffan

    Eislauffan Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for posting the link to the interview. I am wondering about the mention of Gerboldt/Enbert. Tamara Moskvina says "with us in our group the strong pair Gerboldt/Enbert is skating". So, is this an older interview that was just published now (May 18) or didn't Gerboldt/Enbert leave the group at all? Or did they come back? I had reported the coaching change to Vasiliev myself, based on a reliable source. I hope to find out when I get to St. Petersburg.
  10. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    I've noticed Russian websites tend to have those types of ads as popups. I tend to avoid clicking on them if I'm in a place where I can't view NSFW items. Rather than expecting someone generous enough to find and share the links to also turn off her ad bloc, perhaps you should consider installing the same ad bloc (clearly it's very effective) and/or avoid clicking the links to any Russian URLs.
  11. caseyedwards

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    The links themselves are not pornographic in nature. I would also not choose to turn off my ad blocker ever! So best thing to do is if you see .ru don't go to the site.
  12. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Last year, I recall that she had programs done by both David Wison and Tom Dickson, but didn't use Dickson's. Her ISU bio for 2012-13 lists Wilson and Lambiel as her two choreographers (when did she work with Lambiel?): http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00010705.htm

    In this interview (dated May 21) with Tuktamysheva, I think she says Buttle will choreograph both her programs: http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/figur/10645.html
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    St├ęphane worked with Mishin's students two years ago, in summer 2011, during the summer camp in Pinzolo. As Liza returned to her old SP and St├ęphane helped her with it back then, they mentioned him in her bio.

    Yes, she does.

    Anton (Pimonov), mentioned above, who worked with her on SP, is the dancer, he mostly worked with her on the upper body movements. So no contradiction here, I guess.
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    Was Pimonov recommended by Smekalov or the other way around?

    It certainly makes sense to work with specialists who are experts in specific movement, but who aren't choreographers. Lots of ice dancers work with ballroom specialists to work on the choreography they have.
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    Yes, Pimonov was recommended by Smekalov.
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    Many thanks!
  17. allezfred

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    Err, I checked the links you mentioned and I couldn't see anything "pornographic"...... :confused:
  18. hanca

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    Neither could I. My computer is probably set up that it didn't show. (or Vagabond's computer is a pervert! :lol: )
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  19. allezfred

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    Or maybe Vagabond is one of those people who gets all :mitchell: over the sight of a bit of cleavage. :drama:

    Anyway, Macassar88 please continue to post your links and ignore what was said to you as no-one has died and made Vagabond an admin.
  20. Macassar88

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    Hey guys, thanks for defending me here. I definitely didn't think that I was posting porn of any sort, and I just wanted to share some news on Russian skaters.
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  21. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Thanks, Jeschke!

    Another Tamara Moskvina interview: http://fsrussia.ru/news/598_tamara-...-muzyka-k-programmam-novyj-imidzh-partnera--/
    Excerpts via Google Translate:
  22. lauravvv

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    I opened the link twice, and the first time I did see the "offending" advert - it was cleavage indeed :D. To be fair, it was more than a bit, and the photo was very, very cleavage centered (even the woman's head was cut off), but still - I've seen much heavier porn in places where it's not even supposed to be. And mostly those are Russian links too.
  23. lulu

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    I feel so deprived! :drama: I opened the link 3 times, and didn't get anything.
  24. TAHbKA

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    Perhaps Vagabond considers links to the interviews by Dadygin pornography. I certainly do - Dadygin's sick fantasies he calls interviews are exactly that. The pop up blocker , however, doesnt make those interviews any less xrated...
    That is to say please pretty please dont post links to eg.ru articles- they are not about figure skating, it an adults only fanfic with skaters being the main characters
  25. casken

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    :( at Smirnov wanting to give up, but :D at him getting over it with a sassy new 'do.
  26. Andrey aka Pushkin

    Andrey aka Pushkin Brezina's Nemesis

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    Unexpected yet recognizable music choice?
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    Carmen?
  27. hanca

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    Neither did I! :( Not that I would need to see a picture of cleavage; one can just look around in the summer and will see plenty of them in real life, not just on the computer screen...
  28. Sedge

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    Thanks for the link to the article, Sylvia

    Moskvina mentions Sasha's injury.
    Is this the knee surgery from the prior season or something additional?

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    Am not sure, but KawaSmi did miss the Russian Cup final (or whatever it was called) not being ready after Smirnov's flu sometime this season...
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    We are talking about Yuko Kavaguti. That's the least Carmenish Carmen I can imagine. Passion from Yuko?
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    I think Moskvina was talking about a soviet and a russian compositor. So it might be Carmen :p


    On a less optimistic note: Simonenko reports (in rsport.ru) Makarova is to miss the next season
    He spoke to Rukavitsin on the phone
    Rukavitsin: Ksenia decided to skip the next season. The main reason is her injuries which need to heal. One of the injuries - her hip became repeative. We will continue meeting up - either Ksenia will come to St. Petersburg or I will come to the USA. We will talk about it after the season will be over.
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    That's a sad news :( I wish she can recover fully for next season
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    It'll be interesting to see if she comes back at all...
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    Another 20yo with major hips problems. Very sad to hear.
  35. hanca

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    Maybe it would be for the best if she managed to move on. Her last two seasons were not great and she has no chance of competing against the coming to age youngsters.

    Makarova didn't do neither Europeans nor worlds. Does she need to stay off competitions for one year or two years to switch the counties? I think her last international competition would be one of the GP events. What about the UK? No matter how badly Makarova skated, she is miles better than Jenna McCorkell. Come on, Xenia, find some great grandparent from the UK!
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    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    I am glad she's not retiring. Taking a year off is a good idea. She seemed so unhappy last season. I hope she gets healthy and renews her passion for skating, whether in competitions or shows.
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    I thought next season would be her last season and if she didn't come back maybe she thinks she would have been robbed of her last season!! Sure she cant get to the olympics in Russia now and maybe that will mean she decides not to come back at all but it may seem like lack of proper closure. Who knows what will happen to Liza Adelina Julia and the younger girls. They seem all locked in for the two spots in Sochi but what about worlds 2015?!?
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    I wrote a new blog entry recapping Makarova's injury/decision and how this will impact the Russian ladies field:

    http://skateguard1.blogspot.ca/2013/05/ksenia-makarova-out-with-injury-how.html

    To clarify before I get blasted, I'm not saying in this piece that Makarova would have been a shoe in for Sochi, but she could have contended for a spot as much as anyone else had. It's not a two pony show right now.
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    sad news. all the best for ksenia.

    i can't help, but i really liked to see ksenia on the ice compared to her russian compatriots. she, biryukova and leonova were grown women compared to all those 'jump-around-girls'.
    there were miles between them in TES the last season, but makarova were miles above the others in her components (maybe not in the marks already :D) i really would like to see grown women back in the sport mixed with all those youngsters; come on, olympics with butirskaya, volchkova & co. were great too,

    hope we'll see her once again on competetive ice, where she blews those youngster with her majesty away :D


    think i never spoke of makarova like that before :D
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    I agree that it's not a two person only competition. Where there is no competition for Liza and Adelina. And that the team can be named now. Is it a weak field or a strong field? If only two peoPle are competitive for two spots that is a very weak field. Makarova did not have the hardest triples but was able to qualify for some of her worlds by beating people not just being age eligible.
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