From Russia With Love - Spring into Summer 2013

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, Mar 17, 2013.

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  1. hanca

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    I think she hasn't been competing internationally for 2 seasons now, so if they refused to release her, maybe she could complain to ISU or something? Or has it been only one season?

    ETA: oh, no, she did compete in 2011-2012! She sat out only one season (2012-2013). It is weird, it feels like much longer than that! So they still may not release her. :(
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  2. kwanfan1818

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    She can't complain to the ISU: the Federation she wants to skate for has to do it on her behalf. If they want to piss off the Russian Federation.
  3. Sylvia

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    Parts of this article is translated into English and summarized here: http://fskating.com/2013/05/renewed-lipnitskaia-getting-ready-for-new-heights.html

    On May 10 Nina Mozer is bringing 5 pairs to train in New Jersey and work on new programs: http://www.allsportinfo.ru/index.php?id=71104
    The 3 senior pairs are Tatiana Volosozhar / Maxim Trankov, Vera Bazarova / Yuri Larionov and Ksenia Stolbova / Fedor Klimov; the two junior teams are Lina Fedorova / Maxim Miroshkin and Evgenia Tarasov / Vladimir Morozov (sounds like both teams are returning to the JGP).

    ETA: http://fsrussia.ru/news/580_aleksandr-zhulin-podgotovka-k-novomu-sezonu-uzhe-nachalas/
    This brief news item quotes Alexander Zhulin as saying (I think) that he, Bobrova/Soloviev and Monko/Khaliavin will go to Latvia for a month and a half on June 15 for training and will collaborate again with choreographers Igor Orshulyak and Sergei Petukhov.

    Comments by Bobrova: http://fsrussia.ru/news/579_ekateri...msya-potomu-chto-u-nas-ochen-silnaya-komanda/
    Comments by Soloviev: http://fsrussia.ru/news/578_dmitrij-solovev-muzyka-k-novoj-programme-menya-probrala-do-murashek--/
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  4. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Via Google Translate - article by Olga Ermolina: http://fsrussia.ru/news/586_adelina-sotnikova-novye-programmy-mne-stavil-horeograf-petr-chernyshov/
    Kovtun was recently training in Indiana with Belgium's Jorik Hendrickx.
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  5. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Russian news video feature on Elena Berezhnaya: http://www.vesti.ru/only_video.html?vid=507341
    What are the names of the young pair team she is shown coaching? Her children (with Steven Cousins) -- son Tristan, age 5 and a half, and daughter Sofia Diana (Sonia), 3 going on 4 -- are also shown. :)

    (I've cross-posted this link in the skaters' babies & kids thread in the Trash Can.)
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    The boy's name looks like Amir Khabibulin and the girl's Svetlana Dobryagina.
  7. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Thanks! I couldn't catch their names in Cyrillic on the screen.

    :lol: that Artur Gachinski didn't want to reveal his FS music in this brief interview when we know what it is already ;): http://fsrussia.ru/news/585_artur-gachinskij-ideyu-novoj-proizvolnoj-programmy-predlozhil-sam/

    ETA:
    Posted earlier this month in this thread:
    (This was from Igor Bobrin's "Bolshoi on Ice" show in Korea.)
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  8. lala

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    I also noticed Matveev, the choreographer, standing by. He had choreographed some great programs for Elena & Anton.

    What level is this young pair at? Junior?
  10. caseyedwards

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    Why wouldn't he just reveal it? There is no possibility of changing?
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    New short article on Vera Bazarova & Yuri Larionov. Reads:-

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  12. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    ^^^ I believe the original Bazarova/Larionova interview (Russian article) is here: http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/10525.html

    Alexei Gorshkov talks about Riazanova/Tkachenko (they will return to work with Shpilband for the summer): http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/10553.html

    I think this Evgenia Tarasova/Vladimir Morozov article says the pair (5th at 2013 Junior Worlds) is returning to the JGP and will compete senior at the Winter Universiade (December 2013 in Trentino, Italy): http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/10525.html
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  13. Ziggy

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    They have to use different patterns. Juniors and Seniors skate different compulsory dances.
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    Poor Artur is a little confused - though he's not specifically talking about the long program, unless Google Translate has missed something. Either way, I like the way he talks about it, seems to feel ownership over this program already. :)
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    Is she still married to steven cousins...
  17. Sylvia

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    This seems to be a more substantive interview with Alexei Gorshkov about Riazanova/Tkachenko's new programs as well as some of his other dance teams, including the JGP team of Evgenia Kosigina/Nikolai Moroshkin (6th at 2013 Junior Worlds): http://fsrussia.ru/news/587_aleksej...mu-sezonu-my-privlekli-mnogih-specialistov--/
    It sounds like R/T may compete at least one program in the Lake Placid dance competition (July 31-August 3).

    Interview with Konstantine Menshov: http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130515&content_id=47596544&vkey=ice_news
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  18. quiqie

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    V. Piseev says that Polina Shelepen and Ivan Bariev were cleared by Russian Figure Skating Federation to skate for Israel and Italy, respectively. He says that they both obtained citizenship of their respective countries and an approval of National Federations.

    http://fsrussia.ru/news/591_valenti...didatov-sbornoj-rossii-po-figurnomu-kataniyu/

    Also, Sergei Voronov has switched from Morozov to Eteri Tutberidze, and Kamilla Gainetdinova/Ivan Bich are now coached by Artur Dmitriev.
  19. kirkbiggestfan

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    So, Russia would not release Lubov to France, but had no problems releasing skaters to Israel and Italy. I don't buy the citizenship argument at all and under COP we won't know what the Israeli and Italian jusges do.
  20. hanca

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    I thought someone posted here a while ago that they split up after not very successful junior worlds?
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    It is so unfair...poor Lubov. They also released Ovcharova ages ago, so it seems that Lubov is the only one who struggles to be released.
  22. hanca

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    repeated post
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  23. quiqie

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    They did, but the FFKR made them reunite.
  24. Domshabfan

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    Lubov came out with a bunch of criticism of her coaches, more over she was trying to skate for France. A country that refused to release Jerome Blanchard to skate for Russia, he could only skate for Russia after sitting out 2 years. This sounds even more bad when France had a Russia born Olympic gold medalist in the form of Anissina.
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    Considering how Lubov coach spoke about Lubov to the media, I am not surprised that Lubov criticised the coach and the setting. It seems that she did not have it easy there. And Russian Federation would be partially responsible too, as someone who should be looking after the welfare of the skaters on their books. Don't they have something like duty of care?
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    I would say Russia has only themselves to blame for the Gold medal they potentially lost; they misjudged Anissina's skills, talent and determination. I am sure that if they found her an acceptable partner, she would never go and skate for France. She was not looking for escape from Russia; it would be much easier for her to stay in Russia and receive all the support from the Russian Federation. But they did not offer her anyone and so she found a partner without their help.
  27. Sylvia

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    The Russian national team for 2013-14 was announced today: http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20130516/662415033.html
    Pairs: Tatiana Volosozhar / Maxim Trankov, Vera Bazarova / Yuri Larionov, Yuko Kavaguti / Alexander Smirnov, Ksenia Stolbova / Fedor Klimov, Lina Fedorova / Maxim Miroshkin, Julia Antipova / Nodari Maisuradze;
    Ice Dancing: Ekaterina Bobrova / Dmitri Soloviev , Elena Ilinykh / Nikita Katsalapov, Ksenia Monko / Kirill Khalyavin, Ekaterina Ryazanova / Ilia Tkachenko, Victoria Sinitsina / Ruslan Zhiganshin;
    Singles: Evgeni Plushenko, Maxim Kovtun, Konstantin Menshov, Sergei Voronov, Artur Gachinski;
    Adelina Sotnikova, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, Alena Leonova, Nikol Gosviyani, Julia Lipnitskaya.

    ETA that the skaters listed above are called the "main part" of the national team.
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  28. DimaToe

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    :cheer: Gosviani made the national team :D
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    I am surprised that Radioniova isn't there. Even though she isn't age eligible, Sotnikova and Tuktamysheva and Lipnitskaya were there even though they were not eligible. And Lina Fedorova / Maxim Miroshkin made it (although I think they are staying in juniors) so why not Radionova?

    Well done Gosviani! :)

    No Makarova (not surprising) and no Korobeinikova :(
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    What age eligible skaters would have replaced sotnikova, tuktamisheva, lipnitskaia? I am sure Russia had so may juniors that they made them a part of the team because there was a lack of good seniors to make the team.
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    "The main part of the Russian team" (which I take to mean Senior level competitors) is listed above - are Fedorova/Miroshkin planning to compete on Senior Grand Prix? Does this indicate that Elena Radionova and Anna Pogorilaya are returning to the JGP?
  32. lala

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    She is too young, I think.
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    I'm almost positive that Lipnitskaya was listed even two years ago (and last year also I think) before she was old enough for senior championships
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    What do they mean by National Team? Are these the skaters whose names are going to the ISU for GPs?
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    In every disciplines -except the pairs- there are 5 members. Maybe two years ago Julia could be 5th, but today the Russian has 5 good girls, who are older than Elena.
  37. Jeschke

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    no martiusheva/rogonov? junior team in and them out? :(
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    Their fed may have given up on them. May be they can skate for another country?
  39. Domshabfan

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    Yes, her coach said she is obsessed with her weight and she does not eat enough. When Lubov criticised her coach and refused the offer of her federation of another coach and a partner, the chances of Russians releasing her was zero. Also, Lubov with a solid partner is threatening and can challenge a future russian pair. Unlike Ovcharova, Bariev and Shelepen, all three have struggled win under rotation and consistency.
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    you can not blame the fed, if they would finally have given up.
    but i doubt, they will get a host pick, too.

    really sad, i totally love this couple, but being fan of them, it's hard to watch most of the times.
    i have always these problems with my fav skaters, remeber dytrt :D
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