From Russia With Love - Autumn 2012

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, Sep 12, 2012.

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  1. love_skate2011

    love_skate2011 Well-Known Member

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    good for them, Petaikina the one who skated with Kudryukov ?
     
  2. julieann

    julieann Well-Known Member

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    She is, I can't wait to see them at nationals.
     
  3. Sedge

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    Monko Khaliavin.....I don't think she is taller but her legs seem to be the same length as his.
    Their height similarity seems to overwhelm the team. It is similar to the feeling I had with Romaniuta Barantsev although I don't find either of them as strong skaters as Romaniuta or Barantsev.
     
  4. misskarne

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    *facepalm* I got worried for nothing!

    (Dmitriev's never done a GP before? Surprising. Any reason for the withdrawal? Hope it's not another injury.)

    She's not quite 16, just had a massive growth spurt and is still getting used to her new body. It would not surprise me at all if in time she became more confident and a little more extroverted.
     
  5. lala

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    I just read, Mishin said Artur has grown quickly, and need to be rebuilt his jumps. Maybe this is the reason, why he lost his great jumps.
     
  6. misskarne

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    Ugh, how unlucky. Looking at his build last season I thought he might have finished growing. I guess not :(
     
  7. pinky166

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    He looked noticeably taller to me at SC than before, like he'd grown maybe 2 or 3 inches since last season...more long and lanky than I remembered from before. Axel jumps are especially hard hit when one grows, so that may be why his 3a, usually his money jump, was problematic here.
     
  8. Moka-Ananas

    Moka-Ananas Man's Ruin

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    Dmitriev isn't with Mishin anymore. You must be referring to Gachinski
     
  9. Jemestone

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    I would assume he hasn't recovered from breaking his leg over the summer.
     
  10. Jeschke

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    does anyone has any informations about shanette folle?
    i only knew her as the coach of annette dytrt and later as assistant of tarasova (with asada).

    i quite like the developemnt of her skater (although her methods in the dytrt case seemed a bit questionable).

    would like to see her again.
     
  11. Jammers

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    It seems like the Russian men are doing what the US Ladies have been trying to do since Michelle Kwan retired. Just like it seems like the US was trying to find the next Michelle Kwan for years Russia has been looking for the the next Plushenko instead of allowing their own skaters be true to themselves and not try to be another Plushenko.
     
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  12. love_skate2011

    love_skate2011 Well-Known Member

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    I think they are yielding some small results now, though Gachinski is a mini Plushy clone, Kovtun doesn't at all. and they had 3 individual medalists in the JGP.
    none imo are plushy clones, Kovtun, Samarin and Petrov

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxim_Kovtun
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Samarin
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Petrov_(figure_skater)

    I agree that finding another Plushy will never happen again and what is needed is for the skaters to have their own style
     
  13. lubov26

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    i guess calling Abt as Kulik's clone is a good thing :rolleyes: Kovtun is no way as good as Gachi at least yet...
    i think Gachi is beautiful skater, i love his body movement , very ellegant with his own style , such a shame of his jumps :( hope he ll bring them back
     
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  14. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

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    I think Gachinski's more fluid than Plushenko, and, of course, he's developed through a different system with different demands. Didn't Plushenko do most of his growing before he exploded on the senior scene? Plushenko was a prodigy, reaching and maintaining success quite young, and having extraordinary confidence, and Gachinski's career has been like other top skaters, who had times of brilliance and times of struggle.
     
  15. lulu

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    Hopefully he'll be able to skate at Russian Nationals. :)
     
  16. misskarne

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    :yikes: Poor bloke.

    Looking at the videos it would seem Plushenko had a huge growth spurt between 17 and 18 (in that off-season between 1999-2000 and 2000-2001 season), and then finished there. But Plushenko also didn't seem to have these jolty spurts. He seemed to grow slowly after he hit Seniors, had that major spurt in the off-season where he went from small and skinny to tall and solid, and that was the end of it. Gachinski has had a few growth spurts over the last few years.

    Plushenko is an incredible rarity, like a pink diamond or something. His incredible consistency and his ability to sustain that level of competitiveness - while fighting other exceptional talents as a youngster - is mind-boggling. And his confidence has never wavered, even for a moment. I was watching his short program from the 1998 World Championships again the other day - so young, just 15, at his first Senior worlds, and he was playing with the crowd, encouraging them to clap in time with his music!

    Gachinski is a talent, a gift to Russian skating, with that lovely lyrical style and the big wonderful jumps. But he's been caught up in this mad search for "another Plushenko" and I don't think Russian skating realises what it really has with him.
     
  17. alchemy void

    alchemy void it's time for the perkolator

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    I think the general consensus is she was completely out of her league as a coach for Asada and even Dytrt?

    Although she's very easy on the eyes, so there's that.
     
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  18. Macassar88

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    :rofl: it says he recently stopped skating
     
  21. lulu

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    Well, he's short enough. :p ;) j/k

    Ah, good old google translate, where would we ever be without our FSU translators? :drama:
     
  22. Macassar88

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    Yeah rolling comes up a lot instead of skating.
     
  23. nuge

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    Let's hope he's in better charge of a horse than he is a car :shuffle:

    What did the diva Bobrova say about this season etc ?
     
  24. Macassar88

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  25. Macassar88

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    She implied that she doesn't think that they won't be the #1 Russian team anymore and that she hasn't heard much about people telling her that they won't be it. She said that they will fight for that place throughout the season. She understands the judges feedback and they will work on correcting things. They want to be at the GPF.

    And I don't really see her as a diva. She seems like she's actually really nice.
     
  26. love_skate2011

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    True, Bobrova is too much of a goody good girl,
    Ilinykh and Sinitsina are more of a diva than her
     
  27. nuge

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    I know that I just like to call her a nice diva :)I think they will retain their number one spot :)
     
  28. Macassar88

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    I feel like if Ekaterina were a diva, she might have said some negative things about Kustarova and Alexeeva, but she has only said the nicest things about them in all her interviews - like how they are basically family to her and how they taught her so much.
    And I hope that they retain the number 1 spot. I like their programs more, and they are much harder workers. Zhulin will hopefully be able to get them a medal at Sochi and then gold in 2018!
     
  29. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    I am really liking what I see from Tuk so far this season. She is taking her time to emote and project, instead of rushing and looking hectic with her arms. Her layback is unfortunate though (injury, I know). Compared to Sot though, she still needs some speed and ice coverage.

    This will likely be Tuk and Sot's adjustment season - they will likely start to dominate next season, just in time to contend for the podium in Sochi. To contend for the title, they will have to be pretty solid from now on.

    On the other hand, I was more impressed with Lip as a junior than is with her as a senior. She has visibly even less flow than Tuk. That will hurt her PCS.
     
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