From Russia With Love - 2012 Off Season

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Eislauffan, Apr 18, 2012.

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  1. kirkbiggestfan

    kirkbiggestfan Well-Known Member

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    Bobrova's posture is still scary here and there, but that is a major improvement. Zhulin listened to the critics.
     
  2. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    B&S FD choreo was Je Suis Malade with the opening and ending taken from Zlobina & Sitnikov. The music was a weird mix of blues and Tosca. Her posture slightly improved, but the lifts are unimaginative, the program doesn't build, and this is not going to stop people from calling them boring.

    He looks hot with that hair though.
     
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  4. love_skate2011

    love_skate2011 Well-Known Member

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    now I want to see

    Riazanova/Tkachenko :soapbox:
     
  5. Ladida

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    I think B/S improved, but the music cuts really scare me. How they can mix Once Upon a Time in West with Tosca??? I hope R/T are not going to mix Godfather with Four Seasons.
     
  6. Cloudy_Gumdrops

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    I want to see Starygina & Volubuiev. They had the best programs in the Russian field last season imo.
     
  7. emason

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    God, that was heinous. I never want to hear Tosca like that again.
     
  8. jobelle

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    I recognized Tosca, was all the rest of it from Once Upon a Time in the West?

    I found it very interesting and am looking forward to seeing it develop (and hearing what the concept is). The style of movement is quite different for them. So I think it is a step in the right direction.
     
  9. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Is that what that was? Jesus. How out of touch can Zhulin BE? :shuffle: This makes me kind of glad P&B and I&K left him (not that Morozov is any better).
     
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  11. Cloudy_Gumdrops

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    I'm not that impressed with Zhulin's choreo so far this season.

    I hope his programs for his other teams is better than what B&S and Zenkova/Sinitsin have gotten.
     
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  13. love_skate2011

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    love the ending, I want to see the triple twist they did 2 days ago
    they need more height if they want a consistent triple twist
     
  14. Jemestone

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    I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I really loved B&S FD, music and everything else. But I'm no dance expert so......

    S&K SP was nice as well.
     
  15. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    You must be very glad, Cherub, coz this program is wonderful for her. There are some very nice choreographic moments in there. :)
     
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  17. Cloudy_Gumdrops

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    Love Stolbova & Klimov's program. They seemed to be going through the motions in a lot of places, but I imagine the performance aspect will get better in their GP competitions.

    Sinitsina & Zhiganshin should probably think about leaving Kustarova eventually.
     
  18. alchemy void

    alchemy void it's time for the perkolator

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    The good

    Stolbova/Klimov: :inavoid: Definitely my favorite Russian pair team right now. Music sounded like Danny Elfman? Very gutsy to do the sbs 3toes 2:05 into the program as well.

    Leonova: Masculine music works well for her. Of course I wanted something voidy but this definitely has potential to be fierce. Some interesting moments, much better element distribution than last year. Already looks like a semi-masterpiece compared to her last year's LP.

    Makarova: Hard to tell with part of the program chopped off. Like an extended version of her SP from last year, which isn't a bad thing.

    Shershak: Nice 3flip. Wasn't she doing a 3loop at the end of last season as well? I don't mind that she is recycling this program as it's a pleasant program with actual choregraphy and she owns it.

    Menshov: Nice 3axel. :eek: Interesting, rough program. Slightly voidy but still accessible. Gotta root for the old guy to be competitive this year.

    The bad

    Kavaguti/Smirnov. Ehhhh, we've seen this before.

    Korobeynikova. Swan Lake, again? Slow and tentative, like before. I realize it's just a test skate, but I have very low expectations for her. Head case, I'm afraid.

    Biryukova. Love her skating, decent program, she attacks well, but the jumps are a hot mess. Hope she can pull it together for the fall, but she's a worse head case than Polina K.

    The ugly

    Bobrova/Soloviev. She looks hot. That's about all. Not getting the music cuts, and it's not even a good kind of :rofl: Bring on R/T and I/K!
     
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  20. Piper

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    I don't understand why it lasts only 4.03...

    I love them and I'm always mesmerized by their skating...but so many mistakes...((
    I hope it will be better.
     
  21. love_skate2011

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    they have better speed than B/S their emote to the dance and have better basics
    but the music choice. I can see already Kustarova/Aleeva turning them into B/S route :soapbox:

    I wish they would leave her now and go to Shipilband , I am so mad :mad:
    You can see they have real talent , better than B/S or I/K , its just a matter of better coaching

    FREE VICTORIA and RUSLAN !
     
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  22. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    :eek::eek::eek: Isn't the GPs starting in one and a half months?

    That program can't possibly be more generic and disconnected. :(:(:(

    I am calling it now - she will skate to 17 Moments of Springs next season. :p
     
  23. caseyedwards

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    Really uneven! Some wow some real lows. 4/3 and no lutz.
     
  24. Domshabfan

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  25. alchemy void

    alchemy void it's time for the perkolator

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    I am underwhelemed by R/T, so far amongst the russian ice dancers
    only Sinitsina/Zhiganshin has real speed and power in their skating
     
  29. Ladida

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    No idea. But the program makes me sleepy. My last hope is probably M/K free dance. I'm praying for something finally worthy.
     
  30. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    and an SP to Scene D'Amour. :lol:

    Can't keep up with all the new posts!

    Stolbova/Klimov - Great!

    Sinitsina - She is so pretty. Not bad, I kinda liked it. A much more natural expression than last year. Unfortunately, with many of these Russian dancers, they are so leggy and long but it makes the lifts look like crap. Can we have Domnina back plz?

    Also, S&Z continue to follow D&W's trajectory... Samson, Phantom, Tango (if not the exact same music). Not really the way to set yourselves apart as seniors.
     
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