From Russia With Love - 2012 Off Season

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Eislauffan, Apr 18, 2012.

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  1. kwanfan1818

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    Maybe not the biggest, but if her posture has improved so that she's now the second coming of John Curry, you would never know it in those heavy, voluminous monstrosities -- second only to Kharis Ralph's Cinderella dress -- she used to wear.
  2. Penniless Rostrum

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    Any sign of Gorshkova & Butikov ? or have they retired?:(
  3. love_skate2011

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    Its done with the test skates
    on Russian forum they say Kavaguti/Smirnov had interesting SP
    Bazarova/Larionov are in good shape also Stolbova/Klimov now have triple twist
    Martiusheva/Rogonov had some trouble and Martisuheva fell on something
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  4. lulu

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    Thanks, I'm looking forward to seeing Kavaguti/Smirnov's SP.
  5. Minou

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    No. Roger Williams popularized Autumn Leaves/Les feuilles mortes in the US. The music was written by Joseph Kosma on a theme of Massenet. (poème d'octobre). The words are from a poem by Jacques Prévert.

    Yves Montand did introduce the song. Edith Piaf had a hit with it too. What a beautiful video. Thank you to whomever posted it. You made my day.
  6. Macassar88

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    I think that the reasoning for that being the focus is that their costumes from last year were disasters. Also, they are much easier to describe than the actual skating.
  7. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    In some way their costumes really were a mirror on their skating and style... out of date, strangely over the top, accentuating all the wrong points... and now they may be sleeker, streamlined, and modern. I get what Zhulin is doing.
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  9. Macassar88

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    I don't really like his costume, but I think she looks great

    Still have mixed feelings on the voidy ending - but I like the program on the whole
    They got low tech marks (in the 30's) but good PCS's
    I wonder how they will be judged internationally
  10. kapriza

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    wow, lovely dress. she looks so pretty and young! costumes she used to wear made her look old.
  11. Braulio

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    Though I see some improvements with the speed and overall impression with Bobrova-Soloviev, the end of the program, the last minute or so is just anti-climatic, very borring and it completely lost my attention.
  12. Macassar88

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    Does anyone know what Bobrova and Soloviev scored at last year's russian test skates?
  13. love_skate2011

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    hmm, an improvement there and at least I wasn't snoozing
    I do agree the ending is anti climatic, the should edit the ending music cuts

    shame we dont get to see Bobrova/Soloviev, Riazanova/Tkachenko and Ilinykh/Katsalapov doing the test skates at the same time to fully evaluate :(
  14. caseyedwards

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    The video is out!

    The costumes were not good before

    Wish a level 4 was as spottable as a 3A or something

    I found one where before the GP they hit 71 in October

    http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=80000
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    She looks lovely.
  16. Jenya

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    Thanks for the link! I think this SD is promising - in my opinion, the lighter themes really suit them better than the very heavy programs they have had recently. This program reminds me of how charming I found their Russian folk ODs. They need to rework the ending (or maybe they got ahead of the music?) but overall I think this program has potential. Looking forward to seeing the FD and how they develop over the season.

    And Bobrova looks lovely. :)
  17. Macassar88

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    The ending has always been like that. I think Zhulin likes ending a little differently than most. Like Mozart, he doesn't believe that a piece of art has to end with a bang. Remember how he did Charlie Chaplin for Pechalat and Bourzat? There was a big climax and then a light hearted ending. Now he has a voidy ending.

    Also, they really scored 71 in an SD at a Russian test skate?!? I guess TAT must be politicking majorly against them.
  18. ~tapdancer~

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    I like it! But I hope he changes his costume. It looks so bulky and heavy especially as compared to her light and lovely look. The loose jacket just doesn't work, he would look much better with a more streamlined look. I think this will be a good SD for them.
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    Makarova's Long program. Maybe an abbreviated version at only 3:30 minutes and 3 jumps??
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    Thanks! Very nice expression and attack (almost too much, lol). Really pretty music. Love her upper body movement. Strange though, cause the beginning and end seem to be there, so maybe they cut from the middle (with most of the jumps??)... maybe this is an exhibition version.

    Her hair is so dark! People won't be able to make fun of her blonde dye job anymore.
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    Makarova still has no 3-3
    and Biryukova doesn't look like in good shape is she ? that was a splatfest :(

    I like Shershak , she now has a 3F :cheer2: attempted a 2A-2t-2t but I'm bored using same programs from last seasons

    Polina Korobeynikova: swan lake.....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ01HYmbrSw
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  26. love_skate2011

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    its a Japanese song I guess
    but I thought it was an Indian Hip Hop ? :confused:
  27. Miruna

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    I think it's Poeta(Vicente Amigo). I remember Lambiel skating to this music
    Her SP is an Indian Hip Hop
  28. inskate

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    Nope, it's La Poeta En La Mar by Vincente Amigo, a flamenco piece (Stephane Lambiel skated a great LP to this piece).

    That was supposed to be her SP. :)

    EDIT: Miruna was faster than me! :)
  29. love_skate2011

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    I listened to the second half and indeed Lambiel has skated to this music
  30. Jemestone

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  31. Cherub721

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    Again? I know this is a different piece of the ballet, but she had an SP to the Russian Dance from Swan Lake for the past two seasons.

    So much better than RFAD (it could hardly be worse). I like the footwork and I think the program will be better when she's in costume and fully selling it as only she can. I guess Morozov's MO is fun SPs, serious LPs. I preferred it when she had fun programs for both. :p
  32. Cherub721

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    lol, I guess today was a good day for me to be home sick. :D There were some pretty moments in there but it was a bit generic.
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    Rough skate, but the program itself is lovely. The sbs jumps still need work.

    Her dress is so simple, but so gorgeous.
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    I liked it, hope they can clean all the jumps
    and that fluke sack potato catch from her triple twist was a bit weird expression from them, lol

    Smirnov's hair is disgsuting !
  36. julieann

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    I really like it, I think those errors esp on the twist will work there way out.
  37. Cloudy_Gumdrops

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    Yuko's dress is fug! Makes her look like a little girl. I like Smirnov's costume though. I think he looks kinda like Bo Brady with the hair and facial hair. I kinda like it.
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    I like Smirnov's costume (he does need a hircut!) but Yuko wore that dress years ago so I'm hoping she gets a new one (it is a test skate after all) although I wouldn't put it past Moskvina to keep it.

    They look pretty good for a brand new program, I guess they just scrapped the "Cats"?

    Smirnov also had knee surgery this summer too so I don't know how bad that was, it can only look better. It looked pretty slow.
  40. Cherub721

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    Agreed. They look so mismatched. And didn't they use this music for an exhibition before? Very blah.

    I do love Yuko, but Smirnov is so sexy and rugged, sometimes I wish his partner were more womanly, like Savchenko.
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