From Russia With Love - 2012 Off Season

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Eislauffan, Apr 18, 2012.

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  1. Michalle

    Michalle New Member

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    Toller: "If this is the new trend in ice dancing, they'll be naked by the year 1992." Well, not by 1992, but he was sort of close - we did get dancers pretty close to naked in the '00's, didn't we?
     
  2. Moka-Ananas

    Moka-Ananas Man's Ruin

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    Where is esta?
     
  3. Jemestone

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    ^ Too busy blowing smoke in Usova's face??? lol
     
  4. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

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    She's coaching Pasha Grishuk for her almighty return to Ice Dance
     
  5. dinakt

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    I have to join the U/Z worship. I loved them then and I love them now. I think that's why I am firmly on Zhulin's side after all these years, especially in coaching debates. He was a stunning skater ( and I am not talking about his looks :D)

    "Four Seasons" were amazing, but I also love their 1991 FD. So deliciously weird and gorgeous.
    http://youtu.be/94PMD_1zmNU
     
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  6. nlyoung

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    I'd forgotten about this one! I love it :swoon:
     
  7. DORISPULASKI

    DORISPULASKI Watching submarine races

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    wasn't the concept statues coming alive?

    I thought they were totally robbed that year.
     
  8. Loves_Shizuka

    Loves_Shizuka Well-Known Member

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    :swoon: :inavoid:
     
  9. kwanfan1818

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    My favorite of their free dances. I thought they should have won Worlds in '91.
     
  10. Jammers

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    Back during the 6.0 days it was all about reputation. You had to wait your turn especially if you were a Russian team. That's why it was a bit shocking when Platov/Grishuk who were the Russian and World number 2 won the Olympics in 1994 they had never beaten Usova/Zhulin. 1998 in Nagano was supposed to be their time.
     
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  11. Vash01

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    yes, and I agree.
     
  12. Macassar88

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    Bazarova and Larionov win gold at WTT!
     
  13. Katarzyna

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    I too loved U/Z veeeery much. To me those were the glory days of Ice dancing to! Four Seasons :swoon:
    Thanks for posting the links!

    I remember Zhulin stating in an interview how disappointed he was not winning OG in 1994 and how important it was to him that Tanja Navka / Roman Kostomarov could make it. At least as a coach he won a gold medal. However, I always felt that it was partly caused by all that personal mess around Zhulin what prevented U/Z winning the gold in 1994. It certainly didn’t help their preparation for upcoming competitions nor with support of their own federation. Surprisingly while I loved Gishuk / Platov as well, their 1992 FD was one of their programme I enjoyed least. :shuffle:

    :40beers: to them. However, Russian team results in general :fragile:
     
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    Svetlana Veretennikova: “Tuktamisheva is a skater, coach and choreographer”

    Its been a while since I've seen Tuk skated
    can't wait to see her and what programs she has next season ;)
    I hope she keeps working with Lambiel
     
  17. Macassar88

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    Thanks for the article. It was very interesting. Hopefully unexpected is more than a Mishin skater not using a tango...
    I'm also really excited to see her jump content next year. I know that she's working on getting the triple axel into her programs. Hopefully she can have consistency with it as replacing a double axel with a triple axel gives her 5 points in base tech value. Also I hope she can get her triple flip back as she missed it a few times during the season.
     
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  18. DaiKozOda

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    Thanks for the article. Good to know that Tuk is not afraid to try "the unexpected". Can't wait to see her new programs.
     
  19. martyross

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    That she is an interesting girl, one can see it in her skating :)
     
  20. caseyedwards

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    The 3flip for some reason is a bother to a lot of Mishin students. At the open as a improvised jump did a 3S+3T and she can do 3lz+3T. The video of her 3A is pretty old now. It would be intersting to see it now. And when she skates again her ice coverage will be looked at.
     
  21. Macassar88

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    She's mentioned that she will be spending a lot of time over the off season working on ice coverage and better presentation as well as the 3A. Hopefully we'll see better spin positions too.
     
  22. aka_gerbil

    aka_gerbil Rooting for the Underdogs

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    :wuzrobbed: I know. If they'd stayed together, I think sooner or later injuries would have gotten them, but at least we'd have had a few more programs and performances.

    This is sad, but I'll sometimes hear a piece of music and think what a great job they'd have done with it.
     
  23. aka_gerbil

    aka_gerbil Rooting for the Underdogs

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    I know I've read somewhere that Zhulin also had a fairly bad groin injury that year and they couldn't train fully. The Russian Fed wanted them to come for nationals that year, but they weren't ready and didn't go... The marital problems may have factored in, but I have a feeling that injury and politics were the biggest factors.
     
  24. martyross

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    Zhulin also said that in 1994 they were tired to train and just wanted to win the Olys and then quit.
     
  25. michaelfsfan

    michaelfsfan Princess Glee (TM)

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    I would have had both U/Z and K/P above D/D that year. :mitchell:

    U/Z's 'Blues for Klook' FD remains one of my favourite ice dancing performances of all time. :swoon: :inavoid: :smokin:
     
  26. barbk

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    Probably my favorite ever routine in any discipline to "Blues for Klook" -- just stunning. And boy do they fly.
     
  27. winterchik

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    http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20120415/591761386.html
    It seems that both Soloviev and Zhulin dismissed the rumours.
    I wonder what made Vaitchekhovskaya write that whole story in the first place
    Give time for the MUD to settle down before the water becomes crystal clear
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    The Mud is settle and the news will be out by end of week :scream:
     
  28. Macassar88

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    Didn't they mention that we should check back on may first?
     
  29. winterchik

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    Yes.......But My source tells me, Zhulin prepared his group for the arrival of B/S
     
  30. Loves_Shizuka

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    What is U/Z's relationship like now?
     
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