This is for brand new scribes. I ordered one. The total was$51, which is minus a 20% discount coupon code I found, and plus shipping via USPS Priority mail. This is more than E-bay of course, but finding one on Ebay is almost impossible, and I couldn't find any place else that sells them. MidWest Skate http://shopmidwestskate.com/Ice/Training-Aids_2 20" off coupon code: RTFF20 This place is supposed to be for skating rink businesses. It does have a place where it asks for the rink with a drop-down list of names or states. I clicked on "Other". It didn't reject me and let me complete the ordering/paying process, so I'm assuming there is no problem. The cheaper shipping option is USPS Priority rather than the UPS options. They also have carrying bags. I skipped it for budget reasons, because it adds both cost and shipping cost, while I can make a customized one for less than that in less than an hour.