Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Buzz, Nov 13, 2010.
Lukas Modric traded for $44m to Real.
Note to KH14:
The Galaxy's 4-0.... ....of the Puerto Rico Islanders in the CONCACAF Champion's League (CCL) is a good indicator of the difference between USA's Div I (MLS) & Div II (NASL). PRI is currently in 2nd place in NASL & considered one of the league's best. The Galaxy's reserve team beat the crap out of them.
Sadly, the gap between the 2 leagues is growing....
I do see your point about the gap between the leagues, but this is too funny. Do teams get promoted and demoted in between the two leagues, like in European championships or are they just different leagues, like the NFL and CFL?
Yeah, the Galaxy did dominate the Islanders, with two goals being scored by the team's two 17 year old strikers. The thing is, two years ago the Islanders beat the Galaxy pretty easily, so there was also a revenge factor going on too.
Bruce Arena rolled the dice a bit by playing a roster of exclusively reserve players, but it really paid off. Resting Donovan and Becks, and with Keane unavailable due to the worst Red Card ejection I've ever seen, attacking options on paper were limited. But boy, some guys really stepped up. It was a pleasure to watch.
Nah, it's like the NFL/CFL. No way does MLS teams want to potentially damage their franchise value by getting demoted. Also, the NASL teams generally don't have the infrastructure, like stadiums, that would allow them to compete with the MLS teams. It's not like in England where even second and third tier teams have decent stadiums. Most NASL teams arent in that situation.
NFL/CFL? More line MLB & AAA International League. Same Country, same sport, entirely different league. Where you start is where you stay. The only way up is to pay the freight for a top tier franchise and they ain't cheap.
The entry price to MLS was about $40,000,000 and is now @ $100,000,000. No one is going to pay that to have the honor of being relegated to a lower level and lose all the loot the upper tier shares. Promotion/relegation is a very "foreign" concept to sports in the USA.
Once you get your top tier franchise it stays there no matter how pathetic it's performance. As examples look at ANY top tier team in any of the major North American sports that are in South Florida, except the Heat. Greed, stupidity and incompetence are rewarded.
The teams from NASL and USL that have gone to MLS paid the entry fee to get there no matter their on field performance in their lower division. That, and the hope of a secure fan base and owning your own stadium are all that's needed now.
The other thing is that relegation is a tradition in soccer that goes back 100 years....a non-american tradition. Our sports psyche, both with ownership and with the fans, would not tolerate a relegation system in any sport. But to be honest, only baseball is set up to do it, and with franchises worth upwards of 2.1 BILLION, no way would any owner risk that by instituting relegation.
True. Money is THE issue.
Soccer, which is still in it's extended infancy here could be set up for rel/pro, but the price to get into MLS now kills it. It simply will not happen.
Well I was wrong about Clint Dempsey going to Liverpool, he ended up at Spurs. Which makes them a very dangerous offensive team.
Iniesta won UEFA player of the year award beating both Messi and Ronaldo. Good on him!
It keeps him in London, therefore it's a better fit for him...
Good grief! NASL announced today that the 2013 season will be a split season with 2 separate championships. The apertura/clausura arrives in North America.
From what I've read on FaceBook this is not being greeted with open arms by the fans of the various teams. We'll see next year how this work out, or if it works at all.
Why are they doing that?
Evidently to align closer to the normal FIFA schedule....which doesn't make a lot of sense. MLS will NEVER align to FIFA, so one wonders why the NASL thinks it's such a big deal.
We have no idea....
Liverpool's new owners are appealing to fans for patience because of the club's poor start to the season.
Bunch of WC qualifiers today with England facing Moldova I believe and Rep of Ireland just finishing of Kazakhstan 2-1.
England won 5-0 and Germany beat Fareoe Islans 3-0. Yep, some real nail biters there...
Jamaica 2 v 1 USA. Jamaica's 1st win vs USA. Jamaica 1st in group with 7 points. USA tied with Guatemala for 2nd with 4 points. USA & Jamaica continue with the 2nd leg in the USA on Tuesday. For the USA it is a must win.
EPIC FAIL by the USMNT. I don't care if the Mexican ref wasn't good or that the pitch was terrible, you adapt and you overcome. Klinsmann deserves a lot of the blame for putting together a lineup that was bound to have problems because he started 3 d-mids. No possession, no width= bad result.
If there ever was a must win game, next Tuesday is it.
The anti-Klinsmann element on BS is at full howl. He's badly underestimated the difficulty of advancing in CONCACAF. If the USA does not advance to Brazil 2014 he's probably gone.
ETA: OTOH, the USA U-20 WNT just won their age group WC in Japan defeating Germany 1-0. It was German's 1st goal conceded during the tournament, and their only defeat, plus they had defeated the USA 0-3 during tournament group play. Congrats to the USA ladies for a job well done........
I've read some of that stuff, such a change from a couple of weeks ago after the USA beat Mexico in Azteca.
But I also think you are right about Klinsmann underestimating CONCACAF. Lots of eyes looking at Klinsy and what lineup he'll put out there on the 11th.
A loss Tuesday night and they are in deep, deep do-do. We've never won in Jamaica, although before the other night we'd get a draw, and Jamaica has never won here. Here's hoping that happens Tuesday.
You're right. It will be interesting to see what kind of team he puts on the field to start the game. As interesting to see how he handles his subs, too.
Oh wow Jamaica!
it's okay.. the squeaked out a win.. which is good considering they didn't have some key players.. I have selfish reasons for the Americans to do well as it likely means we will get more games on TV
England tied - and were lucky to do that in the 87th minute from Lampard.. made more difficult as England was down to 10 men due to my beloved Gerrard ( I won't mention anything about LFC as I'm in a major depression over their demise)
Still don't know the score of the Canada game
You do now. Panama won 2-0.
USA 1 v 0 Jamaica.
The USA dominated but could only score once on a free kick by Herculez Gomez in the 2nd half. That's enough for the 3 points. The USA is now tied with Guatemala for 1st in group. All 3 teams, the USA, Guatemala & Jamaica have identical 2-1-1 records for 7 point in group, Jamaica drops to 3rd place on goal differential.
The USA plays at Antigua & Barbuda on 10/12/12 & finishes against Guatemala on 10/16/12. This win puts them in the thick of a 3 way race to be one of the top 2 finishers in the group that will advance to the CONCACAF hexagonal final round. Three of the six teams in the Hex will advance to Brazil 2014.
NJL (let the good times roll...the lynch mob after Klinsmann has quieted a bit......)
Well, they bent the posts three times, this game could easily have been 4-0. Klinsi smartened up and played Zusi and Cherundolo on the right side and they were very dangerous. Which is the wide play they were missing last week.
Hopefully Landon and Bradley will be healthy for the next two games and the USA can post the 6 points they need to ensure they get through to the hex.
Evidently there's a new soccer magazine coming out called "Howler", and in their first issue they are publishing an article about the state of the USMNT since 1990. IMHO, it's an outstanding analysis of where we've been, and points to where we are going. Highly recommended reading: http://whatahowler.tumblr.com/post/31313126129/what-is-american-soccer
Champions League starts today!!!
I'll second the . Chelsea looking scattered at home against Juve, but still ahead and bf is now on the pitch as a late sub for Oscar (who was brilliant in the first half).
ETA: And a that was a very nice 1-2 with Hazard, but shot goes into the side of the net.
Puerto Rico 0 v 0 LA Galaxy
Interesting final. Much better for PR than the 1st game.
ETA: and Pia coached her last game for the USWNT last night in Denver - USA 6 v 2 Australia.
From a Galaxy perspective there's two thoughts...
1) need to practice finishing
2) an incredibly boring game....
#2 says it all......
NJL (.....there are times it ain't the beautiful game... ...)
Brilliant goal -and assist- from Chelsea's win yesterday. Eys, I'm a very unbiased observer.
He was so happy; it was a fantastic goal!!!
NASL season is over for the Strikers. They lost 1-3 to the Carolina Railhawks (whatever that is) in Cary, NC last night in the NASL playoffs quarter finals. This to a team that did not beat the Strikers in 4 games during the regular season.
The Strikers had the worst road record in the NASL in 2012, 1 win in 14 games & generated but 8 points out of a possible 42, and it showed last night. Their performance was pathetic.
On to 2013 & a spring/fall split season. Since next years playoffs involve 2 teams in a 1 game championship game the Strikers have to do do better than a 4th place (2011) or 5th place (2012) finish to even qualify. But, the NY Cosmos join the league in 2013 and that is supposed to make up for everything.
Spurs beat Man U 3-2. Dismal start to the season. *shrugs*
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