Figure Skating Champions SURVIVOR: Pairs ROUND 6

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by allezfred, Jul 14, 2012.

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Who is the weakest link?

Poll closed Jul 16, 2012.
  1. Kovarikova & Novotny

    91 vote(s)
    59.9%
  2. Kazakova & Dmitriev

    12 vote(s)
    7.9%
  3. Berezhnaya & Sikharulidze

    4 vote(s)
    2.6%
  4. Shen & Zhao

    1 vote(s)
    0.7%
  5. Totmianina & Marinin

    9 vote(s)
    5.9%
  6. Pang & Tong

    34 vote(s)
    22.4%
  7. Savchenko & Szolkowy

    1 vote(s)
    0.7%
  1. allezfred

    allezfred Mince Pie Depriving Admin Staff Member

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  2. DaiKozOda

    DaiKozOda Active Member

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    Kovarikova & Novotny were a really sweet pair but I'll vote for them now.
     
  3. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    Pang & Tong. They skate with emotion and chemistry, but they dont have amazing choreography or programs, they are sloppy as heck, their consistency is horrible, and they dont have the technical power or quality in the big tricks of other Chinese pairs like Shen & Zhou and the much maligned Zhangs, or even Sui & Han. They also werent that huge a force most of their careers. They were dominated by the Zhangs the 2005-2009 period, they were never competitive with Shen & Zhou, and they have 0 head to head wins over Shen & Zhou or Totmianina & Marinin, and they usually needed mistakes by the Zhangs, Petrova & Tikhonov, or Savchenko & Szolkowy to have a hope of beating them.

    I know Kovarikova & Novotny will go this round but it should be Pang & Tong. Kovarikova & Novotny skated in a much tougher pairs era and their artistry and polish is so much better.
     
  4. shady82

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    I disagree about Pang & Tong. IMO their 2010 Olympic programs were amazing, and choreographically comparable to anything Totmianina & Marinin did, although T&M are overall a superior pair. They may not have the technical power of S&Z and Z&Z, but their throws and twists are still bigger than those of most other pairs.

    Even if the Zhangs dominated P&T from 2005-2009, they shouldn't have. The Zhangs were usually overmarked throughout that era. Pang & Tong were at a disadvantage to Petrova & Tikhonov from 04-05 and 05-06, true. But Pang & Tong in 09-10 were far stronger than Petrova & Tikhonov ever were.
     
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  5. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Pang & Tong. I can still remember Kovarikova & Novotny's choreography that I haven't watched on youtube in several years better than I can remember Pang & Tong's from this year or last. And I feel like they haven't rotated a clean sbs triple since 2010.
     
  6. blue_idealist

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    I agree about the Zhangs. I think the Olympic podium in '06 should have been T&M, S&Z, then P&T, with no Zhangs on the podium at all obviously. I think they sort of got the sympathy vote for her huge fall on the quad throw.

    Btw, voting for Kovarikova and Novotny.
     
  7. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    I agree Pang & Tong deserved a medal at the 06 Olympics, probably silver in fact. I also agree the Zhangs were overmarked vs them for awhile. I also agree they are probably a stronger overall team than the Zhangs. However my main point was the Zhangs atleast had things they were spectacular in like twists, throws, side by side jumps, and Pang & Tong IMO have no area they are exceptional, while having glaring weaknesses as well.
     
  8. SamuraiK

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    I watched again K&N videos for the purpose of this game and Ive already forgottem them, really:blah: while I still love lots of P&T program so to each his own I guess..:D
     
  9. mazzy

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    Not a fan of P&T, but I thought they should have won in Vancouver. IMO, S/Z's "legendary" status boosted their scores and P/T actually had the better and cleaner programmes.
     
  10. kwanette

    kwanette Fetalized since 1998

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    This^
     
  11. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

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    I think that their SP was quite undermarked in that comp. They shouldn't have been five points back.

    I think that they should beat KN and maybe Kazakova and Dmitriev
     
  12. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    I agree Pang & Tong were robbed of winning the gold in Vancouver but for the sake of the sport I am also glad they didnt.
     
  13. berthesghost

    berthesghost Well-Known Member

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    voting K&N for the 3rd time in a row. I suspect one reason why they are still here is most people can't even remember who they were. :p
     
  14. skateboy

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    This.
     
  15. shady82

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    I agree with you, I'm so glad S/Z won Olympic gold. Then again, I personally thought it could go either way.