Figure Skating Champions SURVIVOR: Ladies SEMI-FINAL

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by SamuraiK, Jul 13, 2012.

Who is the weakest link among these past champions?

Poll closed Jul 18, 2012.
  1. Michelle Kwan

    63 vote(s)
    15.7%
  2. Irina Slutskaya

    205 vote(s)
    51.0%
  3. Yuna Kim

    134 vote(s)
    33.3%
  1. SamuraiK

    SamuraiK Well-Known Member

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    And we have our first medallist.. Ok its just a pewter medal with no real value but still:lol: Congrats for surviving so far:

    4TH PLACE: MAO ASADA (48.60% of votes)

    The real podium will consist of:


    01. Michelle Kwan - USA - 1996,1998,2000,2001 and 2003 World Champion.
    02. Irina Slutskaya - RUS - 2002 and 2005 World Champion.
    03. Yuna Kim - KOR - 2009 World and 2010 Olympic Champion.

    Already Eliminated:
    05th Place - Lu Chen (38.61% votes)
    06th Place - Shizuka Arakawa (39.06% votes)
    07th Place - Tara Lipinski (37.15% votes)
    08th Place - Carolina Kostner (41.39% votes)
    09th Place - Maria Butyrskaya (32.67% votes)
    10th Place - Miki Ando (24.90% votes)
    11th place - Sarah Hughes (53.06% votes)
    12th place - Kimmie Meissner (50.26% votes)

    Who deserves the Bronze?? YOU DECIDE!;)
     
  2. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

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    Gonna have to go with Slutskaya, even though I think she was great. No one has the competitive record of Kwan, nor the artistic power, and Yu-Na is an Olympic gold medalist who basically creamed the rest of her field (she's no Baiul or Hughes or even Ilia Kulik, who I tried to vote out before a non-OGM winner in the men's poll).
     
  3. SamuraiK

    SamuraiK Well-Known Member

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  4. UGG

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    I feel like Tara got really screwed in this poll LOL!
    Anywhoo-I am voting for yuna. I need some nostalga in my life! Kwan/Slutskaya showdown!! :D
     
  5. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

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    I voted for Kwan because I felt that her programs on the whole were pretty empty and she mainly used the music to carry her through everything.
     
  6. manleywoman

    manleywoman podcast mistress

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    Tough to eliminate Slute, since she certainly had longevity.
     
  7. UGG

    UGG Well-Known Member

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    Obviously you have never watched anything between 1995-2001. :D
     
  8. shady82

    shady82 Active Member

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    Slutskaya. She simply doesn't have the complete package. I would say she had the complete package with her programs for 2000-01, but that was it.

    I rewatched Slutskaya's 2005 Worlds LP, and though it was an emotional program, I was shocked by how sloppy she was. Her program was memorable, but it certainly doesn't go down as one of the great progrmas of all time.

    I don't see how you can put Slutskaya ahead of Kim, who has the complete package and can do difficult triple-triples, and skated the best Olympics LP in recent history. IMO, it goes without saying that Slutskaya should go before Kwan.
     
  9. RD

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    She did, but it should be kept in mind that it's an FSU poll. A popularity contest at that. Seen from that perspective, skaters like Lipinski or Hughes had no shot at all from the beginning. :shuffle:

    Anyway, based on this final 3 I'd have to say perhaps Slute. Although I could make a case for Kim as well.
     
  10. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah and I really only enjoyed three of those programs.
     
  11. Excidra

    Excidra New Member

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    Voted for Yuna..

    Kwan/Slutskaya Show down is much more exciting than Yuna /Kwan.
     
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  12. t.mann

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    Sorry, Heidi.
    Although I like and respect you.
     
  13. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    The game is ending with a fizzle it looks like. Slutskaya voted out easily this round, then Kwan crushing Kim easily in the finals. I expect if this was just after Vancouver it would have been closer between the two than the final round will be.
     
  14. ciocio

    ciocio Active Member

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    I voted for Yuna Kim even I like her more than Michelle or Irina. M&I's longevity are worthy and inspiring, IMO.
     
  15. senorita

    senorita New Member

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    It has to be Yuna, I m way more emotional about Michelle and Irina. I think their skating was more sincere.
     
  16. Mafke

    Mafke New Member

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    Voted to boot Kim mostly because of Slute's longevity (including two different comebacks).
     
  17. love_skate2011

    love_skate2011 Well-Known Member

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    same I voted for Yuna :)
     
  18. babayaga

    babayaga Active Member

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    I voted for Kim to go too.
     
  19. sk8ingcoach

    sk8ingcoach Active Member

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    Voting Kwan because her technical ability is way low compared to the others
     
  20. berthesghost

    berthesghost Well-Known Member

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    I see that everyone is buying into this longevity crap, so I decided to compare the results of their first 5 senior years, as that's how long Kim has skated, SO FAR

    1st worlds
    Kim bronze
    Kwan 4th
    Irina 7th

    2nd worlds
    Kim bronze
    Kwan gold
    Irina bronze

    3rd worlds
    Kim gold
    Kwan silver
    Irina 4th

    1st olys
    Kim gold
    Kwan silver
    Irina 5th

    4th worlds
    Kim silver
    Kwan gold
    Irina silver

    5th worlds
    Kim silver
    Kwan silver
    Irina not qualified

    Also, by this time Kim had stop competing at nats already having won, Kwan had 3 nat tiles and irina had 0.

    I started Kwan off in 95 to even it with the others, but even then, the current discussion seems to be irina vs Kim.

    So....basically it took irina twice as long to reach Kwan and Kim's level. Doesn't that make her the weakest skater?
     
  21. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    I started voting for Slute even before Bute was out. She has the most flaws out of the remaining three.
     
  22. Badams

    Badams Well-Known Member

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    No. It makes it a different time and a different field.
     
  23. Excidra

    Excidra New Member

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    Not at all. Slutskaya was competing against a tougher field, which included Kwan. Where as Mao was Yunas main competition. If Yuna faultered, she was almost guaranteed a medal because she was far ahead of the rest of the ladies; while Slutskaya in the 90s had to fend off at least 4-5 other ladies( Lipinski,Kwan, Bute, Chen, Boanly) for medals and if she messed up in competition then a medal was out the window for her if the other ladies skated cleanly.
     
  24. TripleWallie

    TripleWallie New Member

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    I'm sure we'll have this poll again after 2014 Sochi. Who knows if Kim, Kostner and Ando get any higher...

    Anyways, I vote for Slutskaya. Yuna's accomplishments when taken in its full context are more stunning. And unlike Slutskaya or Kwan she did not falter at the biggest competition of her life.

    From an obscure federation with only a few, overcrowded ice rinks and hardly any coaching/training expertise in a country that didn't know anything about figure skating, she took home all these medals:

    Gold
    2010 Winter Olympics
    2009-2010 ISU Grand Prix Of Figure Skating Final
    2009 ISU Grand Prix Skate America
    2009 ISU Grand Prix Trophée Bompard
    2009 ISU World Figure Skating Championships
    2009 ISU Four Continents Championships
    2008 ISU Grand Prix Cup of China
    2008 ISU Grand Prix Skate America
    2007-2008 ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final
    2007 ISU Grand Prix Cup of Russia
    2007 ISU Grand Prix Cup of China
    2006-2007 ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final
    2006 ISU Grand Prix Trophée Bompard
    2006 ISU World Junior Championships
    2006 South Korean National Championships (Senior)
    2005-2006 ISU Junior Grand Prix Final
    2005 ISU Junior Grand Prix, Bulgaria
    2005 ISU Junior Grand Prix, Slovakia
    2005 South Korean National Championships (Senior)
    2004 ISU Junior Grand Prix, Hungary
    2004 South Korean National Championships (Senior)
    2003 South Korean National Championships (Senior)

    Silver
    2011 ISU World Figure Skating Championships
    2010 ISU World Figure Skating Championships
    2008-2009 ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final
    2004-2005 ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final
    2004 ISU Junior Grand Prix, China

    Bronze
    2008 ISU World Figure Skating Championships
    2007 ISU World Figure Skating Championships
    2006 ISU Grand Prix Skate Canada International

    She has a medal from every competition she entered, and as you can see above--most of them are gold. Kwan and Slutskaya each have more gold medals for sure, but they stayed around a lot longer.

    It helped that her mom was a big Kwan uber. She might even favor Kwan over her daughter in this poll. :lol:
     
  25. Simone411

    Simone411 aka IceSkate98

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    :rofl: :rofl: Forgive me for laughing. Some of these polls are just too funny. :lol:
     
  26. johnny158

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  27. bartek

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    Voted for Yu-Na. No way Irina should left before her for many different reasons, however I know that Irina is not liked at this forum thus she'll probably be voted out no matter how many arguments I would provide.
     
  28. berthesghost

    berthesghost Well-Known Member

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    :blah: I figured there would be a bunch of excuses made.

    Kim skated in an easier time when all she merely had to do was beat a woman throwing down record breaking 3axels! It wasn't hard for her to compete against losers like two time WC Ando, or current WC Kostner. No, poor poor Irina had to skate against super heros like Surya Bonaly who had 0 basic skating skills and tons of URed triples, or Chen Lu and her completely powerless politically impotent federation. :rolleyes:
     
  29. Simone411

    Simone411 aka IceSkate98

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  30. bartek

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    No, poor poor Irina had to compete against Michelle Kwan, possibly the best lady in figure skating history. That's a big difference. Yet, Irina was able to beat great Michelle MANY MANY times and actually she was the one who won most of the time when they met.