Figure Skating Champions SURVIVOR: Ladies ROUND 5

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by SamuraiK, Jun 15, 2012.

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Who is the weakest link among these past champions

Poll closed Jun 21, 2012.
  1. Lu Chen

    18 vote(s)
    6.0%
  2. Michelle Kwan

    10 vote(s)
    3.3%
  3. Tara Lipinski

    79 vote(s)
    26.2%
  4. Irina Slutskaya

    11 vote(s)
    3.6%
  5. Shizuka Arakawa

    37 vote(s)
    12.3%
  6. Mao Asada

    12 vote(s)
    4.0%
  7. Yu-Na Kim

    10 vote(s)
    3.3%
  8. Carolina Kostner

    125 vote(s)
    41.4%
  1. dawnie

    dawnie Active Member

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    Yes, Miki is quite the :drama:off the ice. Too bad she can't use some of :glamor: during her competition programs!

    Hasn't Maria AND Irina stomped out of the K&C numerous times?
     
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  2. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    Kostner needs to go now.
     
  3. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    They never "stomped out". A little upset/bewildered/unhappy may be, but they never misbehaved.
     
  4. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    That's a new one! :lol:
     
  5. VIETgrlTerifa

    VIETgrlTerifa Well-Known Member

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    But she does. Not that she hasn't stepped up to the plate, but to say she's reserved isn't off the mark.
     
  6. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    There are introverted skaters like Shizuka, and they often get bashed for lacking that outward reach to the audience. However, there have been some really good introverted skaters.... (this calls for a new thread, IMO)
     
  7. love_skate2011

    love_skate2011 Well-Known Member

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    :rofl: Lipinski and Arakawa axed before Kostner :yikes:
     
  8. skfan

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    if this is widely known, when we will see skaters seeking an artistic bandaid switch from east of eden to turandot? :lol:

    i would prefer even the jeff beck version of turandot to another hacked up east of eden.

    not voting this round because my vote makes no difference. *sigh* this is too much like a real election :rofl:
     
  9. Mafke

    Mafke New Member

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    Oh lighten up. Compared with most skaters' meek behavior, she stomped off.

    It was a nice display of temprament (of the kind I'm completely in favor of). And the case I'm thinking of she really did look teed off (and the Brit Eurosport guys seemed to think she had every right to be). It's when I kind of started to become a fan.
     
  10. Alex Forrest

    Alex Forrest Banned Member

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    Did you ever see Shizuka skate live? Because the first time I saw her skate live was at GPF the year she ended up winning Worlds. I was taken aback by her 'projection' in terms of her power, her edges, her overall skating ability. Cohen was the fave at that competition but Shizuka was twice or thrice the *skater* that Cohen was. (And please don't slam me, I think Cohen is exquisite). I was with a bunch of FSU or the old Skatefans members, and I turned to them and was like "Am I crazy, or does Shizuka Arakawa have killer skills? I get her. She's incredible." No one was on board, but I felt vindicated when she won Worlds that year. I hope she stays on this thread to beat Kwan, which really it will come down to (Kwan that is, not Arakawa).
     
  11. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Who is 'she'?

    You can dislike her and find your own explanations of 'stomp' as "compared with most skaters' meek behavior", just don't make it sound like the truth. It's just your biased opinion of a skater.
     
  12. Triple Butz

    Triple Butz Well-Known Member

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    Considering what the Russian Mafia did to Maria last week, anything is possible :lol:
     
  13. FunnyBut

    FunnyBut Well-Known Member

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    :rofl: Unfortunately, they gave the robot some limp slouching shoulders to make her look like a 'real' human skater. They must have used Rachael Flatt as their model. Still, I think Caro should have gotten the boot first.
     
  14. Proustable

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    Yeah, Miki fascinates me as a skater. In competition, she's largely a done - a couple solild SPs not withstanding. But her gala skates are always well done.

    I love Kostner, and would be thrilled to see her continue. If only because the really tough decisions are coming up.
     
  15. sk8ingcoach

    sk8ingcoach Active Member

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    As much as Carolina is probably my Favourite skater of all time, i can accept that it is her time to go... I was just happy that she made it past Butyrskaya. However i coulod never vote her off, so i voted for Chen Lu as i believe she is the next weakest
     
  16. kwanette

    kwanette Fetalized since 1998

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    I voted for Carolina to go.

    This is probably the first season ever where I actually (sort of) enjoyed her skating. Up until this yr, I found her gawky and lacking in anything close to artistry. I do appreciate her skating skills and speed.

    I ppretty much agree with what Berthes Ghost had to say about Tara.
     
  17. SkateBlades17

    SkateBlades17 New Member

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    I do not think that Tara should be voted off yet at all!! She was very talented and one of the most consistant skaters. Being consistant is a big thing for me. Sasha Cohen and Nicole Bobek for example were great skaters, but could hardly ever keep it together and put two clean programs together. I predict that Michelle will win this by the way. :)

    I voted for Carolina by the way.
     
  18. eurodance2001

    eurodance2001 Active Member

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    ITA!! Caro must go! Next is Shizuka for me..
     
  19. eurodance2001

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    Considering the Mafia firebombed Maria's car, she can stomp off in a tizzy if she wants!!
     
  20. npavel

    npavel Well-Known Member

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    I'll never understand how Tara can be a stronger champion than Carolina who has better skating skills, bigger jumps, greater spirals and spins. Carolinas artistry and interpretation is so much better and the presence on the ice as a real lady make her stand over Tara by far
    I voted for Tara from the second round and will do it until she is gone
     
  21. Triple Butz

    Triple Butz Well-Known Member

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    How about difficulty and ability to skate clean under pressure at the big events?
    Carolina's artistry has really come through in the last two seasons, but her skating looked really clumsy for most of her career IMO. I'm in love with her programs from this year and last, but if I had to make a choice I still prefer Tara's from 98.
     
  22. SkateBlades17

    SkateBlades17 New Member

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    I agree!
     
  23. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    Carolina does not have very strong spins. She lost Skate America to a splatty Czisny in part since she was outscored by a whopping 5-6 points on spins alone in the LP.

    Tara did the hardest programs done by a women in history to that point, other than possibly Midori Ito, and amazingly did them clean repeatedly at age 14-15. Kostner in the year 2012 is doing the jump content the top ladies in the mid 80s used to do, and still rarely doing it cleanly. Tara won events by beating a prime Michelle Kwan repeatedly, and beat a clean Michelle to win Olympic Gold; not to mention overcoming Slutskaya, Chen, Butyrskaya, and others, while Carolina wins a big event finally by beating Alena Leovova and Akiko Suzuki, and one of her career highlights was barely beating a really bad and way past her prime Kwan at the 2005 Worlds.
     
  24. bartek

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    Couldn't agree more.

    Kostner hasn't even skated a clean long program in her whole career which after all has been lasting for many years. Tara during her very short career skated so many clean free skates that they may, as unbelievable as it sounds, outnumber her flawed ones. Kostner's inconsistency and amount of her total meltdowns is the reason I would vote her off before Ando.
     
  25. victoriaheidi

    victoriaheidi New Member

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    You know you spend too much time on FSU when you dream that you got voted off Survivor. Seriously, where in the world did I even come up with that one?!
     
  26. ChelleC

    ChelleC Well-Known Member

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    Voting for Tara again.
     
  27. skateboy

    skateboy Well-Known Member

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    Voted for Kostner to go.
     
  28. kwanatic

    kwanatic Well-Known Member

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    I'm almost ready for this poll to go...:rolleyes:

    Let's move this thing along and get rid of the top 3 vote getters this round. This one person off every 6 days is starting to drag...
     
  29. Cheylana

    Cheylana Well-Known Member

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    Can we shorten the voting period for the next round? Like, maybe to 3-4 days? If an FSUer isn't willing to check in at least that often, then maybe that person doesn't deserve to vote! :p

    What is there not to understand? You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but most of what you are saying is mere opinion, not cold hard facts. I agree with judgejudy that Carolina doesn't have better spins than Tara. I also don't think either has the edge on spirals -- both are fine, neither awe-inspiring. For sure Carolina's jumps are bigger than Tara's, but then again Carolina is about 8 inches taller than Tara was when she competed, so that's not so surprising. I'm also not persuaded that Carolina's skating skills are inherently better than Tara's. They were both fast across the ice, and I think Tara had more control than Carolina did until recently.
    Again, this is just an opinion, which is not necessarily shared by everyone.
    Apples and oranges. Of course Carolina at age 25 is going to look more like a lady than Tara at age 15. How ladylike was Carolina at age 15-17? I'll answer that for you...not very. She was a cute but gawky teenager with loads of potential, which she is now realizing, and a million kudos to her.
     
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  30. kwanatic

    kwanatic Well-Known Member

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    I second that, Cheylana! :respec: