Favorite Programs

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  1. shsocu

    shsocu Active Member

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    I started watching skating during the 08-09 season. I have watched mainly ice dance since then. I was wondering if some of you would share your favorite performances, from any of the disciplines, so I could receive my full FSU education. :)
     
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  3. shady82

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    This is a very broad question. After much thought, here are some of my favorite programs:

    Pre-CoP:
    Michelle Kwan - East of Eden, Lyra Angelica.

    Maria Butyrskaya - Scene d'Amour, Seventeen Moments of Spring.
    Sasha Cohen - My Sweet and Tender Beast, Swan Lake (Wagner version).
    Yukina Ota - Picasso's Dance.
    Fumie Suguri - Ave Maria, Moonlight Sonata.
    Alexei Yagudin - Revolutionary Etude.
    Evgeny Plushenko - Nijinsky Tribute, Adagio.
    Ryan Jahnke - Brazilian medley.
    Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze - Concerto for Coloratura, Lady Caliph.
    Shen/Zhao - Turandot, The Nutcracker.
    Anissina/Peizerat - 2002 Spanish OD, Beethoven's Last Night.
    Bourne/Kraatz - Adagio.
    Fusar-Poli/Margaglio - Lord of the Dance.
    Drobiazko/Vanagas - Quelque Cris.
    Lobacheva/Averbukh - Time for Peace.
    Chait/Sakhnovsky - Lord of the Rings.

    CoP:
    Sasha Cohen - Espana Cani.
    Mao Asada - Nocturne in Eb, Ladies in Lavender.
    Yukari Nakano - Memoirs of a Geisha.
    Bebe Liang - Firedance, Black Earth/Oblivion.
    Sarah Meier - Concerto de Aranjuez.
    Daisuke Takahashi - Phantom of the Opera, Eye, La Strada.
    Jeremy Abbott - 2010 programs.
    Matt Savoie - Barber Adagio.
    Jeffrey Buttle - Adios Nonino.
    Shen/Zhao - Soong Sisters, Claire de Lune.
    Totmianina/Mariinin - Ave Maria.
    Savchenko/Szolkowy - Send off the Clowns, Out of Africa.
    Pang/Tong - Pearl Fishers.
    Delobel/Schoenfelder - Frida.
    Denkova/Staviski - Seven Deadly Sins.
    Davis/White - Phantom of the Opera.
    Virtue/Moir - Mahler Symphony.
    Belbin/Agosto - Chopin medley.
    Pechalat/Bourzat - Clowns theme.
     
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  5. falling_dance

    falling_dance Bravo, Patrick.

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    I'm afraid there's more, shsocu. :shuffle:

    Great ladies' short programs that happen to number among my favorites (of which there seem to be dozens :slinkaway)

    I know this is about favorite programs rather than favorite skaters, whose names appear in bold to make this overlong, self-indulgent post more navigable.

    Midori Ito
    9 to 5, 1987 Worlds
    Caryn Kadavy
    Two Guitars, 1988 Olympics
    Kristi Yamaguchi
    The Blue Danube, 1992 Olympics
    Tonya Harding
    Much Ado About Nothing, 1993 Skate America
    Nancy Kerrigan
    Paradise/The Master, 1992 Olympics
    Yuka Sato
    Railway Children, 1994 Worlds
    Chen Lu
    Spring Breeze, 1995-6 Champions Series Final
    Michelle Kwan
    Dream of Desdemona, 1996 Ultimate Four
    Rachmaninoff Piano Trio. 2 and Piano Concerto No. 3, 1998 Ultimate Four
    East of Eden, 2001 US Nats
    Spartacus, 2005 US Nats
    Tara Lipinski
    Anastasia, 1998 Olympics
    Irina Slutskaya
    Serenade, 2002 Worlds
    The Bolt, 2005 Euros
    Sasha Cohen
    Espana Cani, 2010 US Nats (Midori Ito, Susan Humphreys, Denis Ten, and Sasha Cohen: this Erich Kunzel recording is, like Slaughter on Tenth Avenue, hideously cursed. :drama:)
    Yukina Ota
    Picasso's Dance, 2004 Four Continents
    Shizuka Arakawa
    Fantaisie-Impromptu, 2006 Olympics
    Miki Ando
    Grande Polonaise Brillante, 2004 Worlds
    Mozart's Requiem for a Pipecleaner, 2009-10 Grand Prix Final
    Carolina Kostner
    Canon in D, 2007 Worlds
    Riders on the Storm, 2008 Worlds
    Sarah Meier
    One Note Samba, 2011 Euros
    Mao Asada
    Chopin Noctune No. 2, 2006 Skate America
    Masquerade Waltz, 2010 Olympics
    Kim Yu-Na
    Tango de Roxanne, 2007 Worlds

    Not among the greatest ever short programs (but I still love them)

    Laetitia Hubert
    In the Mood, 1992 Olympics
    Marion Krijgsman
    Power Cats, 1992 Euros
    Susan Humphreys
    Napoli Suite/Etude No. 9, 1997 Canadians (No YouTube video and lots of errors to boot, but still. She was such an elegant skater by this stage of her career.)
     
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  6. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    I will start you off with some ice dancing since you already like it, but this is the more dramatik side that hasn't really been en vogue since you started watching.

    Anissina & Peizerat
    1998 FD Romeo & Juliet
    2002 OD Flamenco/Tango
    1999 FD The Man in the Iron Mask
    2000 FD Carmina Burana

    Grishuk & Platov
    1997 OD Libertango
    1997 FD The Feeling Begins
    1998 FD Memorial Requiem
    1993 FD Blues

    Denkova & Staviyski
    2003 OD Dance of the Witches
    2007 FD The Seven Deadly Sins
    2002 FD Crashing Space Atoms
    2004 FD Handel's Sarabande

    Klimova & Ponomarenko
    1992 FD Air
    I mostly prefer their pro stuff...
    1995 EX Romeo & Juliet
    1993 EX Masquerade Waltz
    1992 Tchakovksy Symphony #5
    1996 Spartacus
     
  7. smarts1

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    Lu Chen 1998 Olympics LP and 1995 Worlds. Best artist ever. No question. Her hand motions were divine.
     
  8. Macassar88

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    Let me do a list (in no particular order)

    Men:
    Yagudin- 1999 SP, Gladiator FS, Winter SP, Nutrocker SP
    Plushenko- 2002 FS (4t-3t-3lo Attempted, 3a-1/2lo-3f)
    Joubert- 2006 Cup of Russia FS (three quads)
    Goebel- 2002 Oly FS (Three quads, spread eagle to 3A, Hydroblading to 3Lo)
    Takahaski- He may not have the quad 100%, but he has so much charisma!
    His 2008 4cc performances are great

    Ladies:
    Chen Lu- 1996 SP and FS, 1998 SP and FS, 1994 SP and FS (I didn't like her 1995 programs)
    Kwan- East of Eden, 1998 SP (the 2002 one isn't as good), Salome
    Slutskaya- Totentanz SP, Wonderland FS, Bolt SP, Don Quixote FS, 2002 worlds SP
    Butyrskaya- 1999 worlds FS (amazing)
    Lucinda Ruh- One of the best spinners of all time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0fvU4wnp34
    You can't really go wrong with Sasha Cohen (although she hasn't ever skated a perfect FS to my knowledge)
    Biellmann- 1980 Olympic FS
    Yukari Nakano- Cinderella FS, Capriccio Espagnol FS, Memoirs of a Geisha SP
    Kostner- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42KMq_23P3Y (3f3t3lo)
    2007 SP (great jumps)
    Kim- Scheherazade FS, Tango de Roxanne SP
    Mao- 2008 SP
    Suguri- 2002 worlds
    I'll think of some more. Pairs and Dance in another post
     
  9. Macassar88

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    Also, I understand that you're relatively new to figure skating, so when you're watching videos, take all the commentary you hear with a grain of salt. There are a lot of biased commentators. (That's why I prefer to get Japanese commentary. I don't understand a word of it, so I don't argue with my computer)
     
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    I love A and P's lifts where Marina lifts Gwendal
     
  11. zippy

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    Gordeeva and Grinkov
    Reverie - if I had to explain to someone what's so great about skating using only one video, it'd probably be this one
    Jazzy Piano for the footwork sequence and baby G/G cuteness
    Barber of Seville - not sure why I love this one so much but it's kind of fun and campy and she's got inexplicably crazy hair
    88 Olympics LP ah memories, the program that got me into skating

    Kwan
    Romanza - Dawn of an era
    Others have said Salome of course but here's a link

    Nakano
    Bolero love the speed, hate the wrap. best donut spin everrr

    Berezhnaya/Sikhaurilidze
    Lady Caliph My cat's favorite. She has impeccable taste.

    Kim
    Danse Macabre

    Lipinski
    Little Women
    Sense and Sensibility I remember watching this with a sense of elation and horror, lol - could hear her scream from my seat in the nosebleed section
    1994 Olympic Fest but I have to say her earliest stuff is the most fun

    Stiegler/Stiegler
    More Olympic Fest fun

    Stiegler/Zimmerman
    96 Nationals SP

    Delobel and Schoenfelder
    Bonnie and Clyde very cool

    Cohen
    1999 Nationals, Junior SP - Not the very best of Sasha but who knew she had already skated to a mangled version of Rach 2 as a junior?
    And of course Malaguena

    These are just a few that immediately popped to mind that I didn't think the links had been posted yet. Definitely agree with many others that have been posted, especially Kim's Tango de Roxanne and Mao's Nocturne.
     
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  12. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Sasha

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    Just a few off the top of my head:

    B&S- Lady Caliph SP, Meadowland SP, Radetzky March SP, All the LPs (Dark Eyes, Concert for coloratura, Valse Sentimentale, City lights, Meditation), SP skated to Vanessa Mae's music when Hongkong became a part of China. Impossible dream, Let me fall

    M&D- Liebestraum LP, Rachmaninoff2 LP, Don Quixote SP

    G&G- Die Fledermaus, Moonlight Sonata, Vocalise, The man I love, Reverie, 94 Oly SP

    T&M- Ave Maria SP, Snowstorm SP, 2006 Oly LP

    Bechke & Petrov- Nutcracker LP, You don't bring me flowers, Snowstorm

    Berezhnaya-Shliakov: Where have all the flowers gone (LP)

    Stiegler-Zimmerman: Sorcerer's apprentice LP(?)

    Babilonia-Gardner: 79 worlds LP

    Kawaguchi -Smirnov: 2010 worlds LP

    That's all I can think of right now. I purposely listed only pairs, so that in a separate post I can post ladies, men, ice dance

    ETA:
    Valova-Vasiliev's 1988 worlds LP
    Shishkova-Naumov's 1992 Oly SP (Take five)
    Gordeeva-Grinkov's 1988 Oly (how did I miss this?) and 1990 European LP (Romeo & Juliet)
     
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  13. RumbleFish

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    Here are a couple of my favorites.
    2002 Olympics Berezhnaya & Sikharulidze SP - Lady Caliph: My all time favorite skating performance. She was so stunningly beautiful and he presented her well.:swoon:
    2002 Olympics Anissina & Peizerat OD - Flamenco: An iconic performance. They showed what ice dancing is all about.

    It's so unfortunate that politics and dumb media ruined Olympic figure skating at Salt Lake City. There were some brilliant performances. SIGH
     
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    I agree! Salt Lake gala was wonderful and these two are just exceptional! I also love this one:
    Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze The Kid
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib4FToUVQ6I

    apart from that I recommend:
    Michelle Kwan - 2000 ex Hands
    Alexei Yagudin - 2001 LP Gladiator, 2002 SP Winter, 2002 LP Man in the Iron Mask
    Drobiazko/Vanagas - 2000 FD Spente le Stelle, 2006 FD Phantom of the Opera, 2006 ex Pirates of the Caribbean
    Delobel/Schoenfelder - 2006 FD Carnival in Venice, 2008 FD The Piano
    Lobacheva/Averbukh - 2002 FD Time for Peace
    Sinead Kerr/John Kerr - 2008 Scottish OD
    Brian Joubert - 2006 CoR LP
    Kristoffer Berntsson - 2008 SP Amelie (gorgeous choreography)

    I could probably come up with a lot more, but for now that's it.
     
  16. blue_idealist

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    Shawn Sawyer - Alice in Wonderland
    Shawn Sawyer - Amadeus
    Kurt Browning - Rag/Digon Times (pro program)

    All the rest are really dance..

    Bourne/Kraatz - Riverdance FD
    Bourne/Kraatz - Jumpin' Jack/Hey Big Spender OD
    Bourne/Kraatz - Michael Jackson medley FD
    Bourne/Kraatz - Chicago OD
    Belbin/Agosto - Elvis medley FD
    Belbin/Agosto - West Side Story FD
    Duschesnays - Missing I & II FDs
    Duschesnays - West Side Story FD
    Grishuk/Platov - The Feeling Begins FD
    Grishuk/Platov - Memorial Requiem FD
    Grishuk/Platov - Rock and Roll FD
    Krylova/Ovsiannikov - Carmen FD
    Anissina/Peizerat - Libertas FD
    Anissina/Peizerat - Beethoven's Last Night FD
    Denkova/Staviyski - Seven Deadly Sins FD
    Denkova/Staviyski - Handel FD
    Navarro/Bommentre - U2 FD

    There's a lot more, I guess, but I'm tired and it's early.
     
  17. l'etoile

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    Your dance program list almost matches my favorites! Bourne/Kraatz's Jumpin' Jack/Hey Big spender & MJ medley would be my thumbs-up for them! Of course when you're looking into ice dance category, you can't miss every Grishuk/Platov routines-especially from 96-97 till the olympic season, and Anissina/Peizerat's performances at the Olympics are on the top my list, too!
    To add some,
    Virtue/Moir - Vancouver olympic OD, Samba medley FD routine from the latest worlds.

    For singles event, I'm thinking (trying not to repeat from others')
    Michelle Kwan - The feeling begins at the worlds
    Katarina witt - Carmen from the olympics
    Brian Boitano - both programs at Calgary olympics SP & LP
    Jeffrey Buttle - Ararat at the worlds 08
    Yuna Kim - Lark Ascending at the worlds 07, Piano Concerto in F by G. Gershwin;olympic performance which is hand-down the most exquisite one from the olympic ladies field!


    oh, I can't believe I left out this!
    Yuna Kim's Olympic exhibition - Meditation from Thais. There's a quality of ethereal, essence of skating itself, just something that only she can do on the ice.
     
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  18. giselle23

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    Going back a little further...

    Janet Lynn, 1972 Olympics--she received a 6.0, even with a fall
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0HbRQk0oFs&list=FLT2IFgeponCwsOmaGDVXmoQ&index=6

    Janet Lynn-1981 World Pro--her return to the ice after three children. Amazing.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsb4TEDHhJs&list=FLT2IFgeponCwsOmaGDVXmoQ&index=18

    And in addition to some already mentioned:

    Michelle Kwan, Black Swan/Dumky Trio, 2001 Worlds-her fourth World Title
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzHZtUPDIVE

    Michelle Kwan-Tosca, 2004 Nationals--on fire!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWQSoIEAxns&list=FLT2IFgeponCwsOmaGDVXmoQ&index=48

    Yu Na Kim--Homage to Korea, 2011 Worlds. Not perfect but my favorite of all of her programs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oubZsdNQq4s&list=FLT2IFgeponCwsOmaGDVXmoQ&index=17

    ETA: Midori Ito, 1989 NHK Trophy--the best triple axel, bar none (men or ladies). This is my favorite of her programs.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hupxBUve6Q&list=FLT2IFgeponCwsOmaGDVXmoQ&index=42
     
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  19. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Sasha

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    Favorite ice dances:

    Klimova-Ponomarenko 1992 FD (Bach), 1988 FD (Beatles) and 1988 Tango OD + Tango Ex, pro Romeo & Juliet, Tchaikovsky's 5th

    Torville-Dean: 1984 Bolero, Take five (pro), 1994 OD (Rhumba?)

    Wilson-McCall: 1988 Oly FD (Joplin)

    Bestemianova-Bukin: 1988 Oly Ex (s)

    Krylova-Ovssianikov: Masquerade waltz FD (97), 1998 OD, 1999 FD, Pro Ave Maria

    Anissina-Peizerat: Carmina Burana FD (2000)

    Usova -Zhulin: Four seasons (92?), Pro Mozart number, 93 worlds FD, 89 worlds FD (Mars)

    Grishchuk-Platov:1995 OD (Fred & Ginger), 1997 FD (The feeling begins), 1998 FD (Memorial), pro 'You'll see' by Madonna

    Navka-Kostomarov: 2006 FD & OD

    Belbin-Agosto: Chopin FD

    Anenko-Sretenski: 88 Oly Tango OD, Pro Thanksgiving, Pro Summertime, Pro waltz ('unforgettable' by Nat king Cole & Natalie Cole)

    Virtue-Moir 2010 Oly FD (one of the best)

    Davis & White: 2009 worlds FD, 2010 Oly OD, 2011 worlds FD

    Denkova-Staviyski: 2006 worlds FD

    Delobel-Schoenfelder: 2007(?) worlds FD- their championship winning program

    Silverstein-Pekarek: Sentimental waltz (I forgot the year)

    I am sure I missed several. May have to edit it later to add more.
     
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    Oh yes. Forgot about that one.
     
  22. briancoogaert

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    For sure, Carolina Kostner's Afternoon of a faun is in my list !
    It was my favorite program of the season, and I still watch it, during the off-season. I love it.
     
  23. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Sasha

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    I finally get to post my lists of men and ladies programs. My lists are so long that I had to do them in blocks.

    Men:

    Plushenko- St.Petersburg 300, Njinski LP, Godfather (yes, I liked it), Sex bomb, 2002 Oly LP

    Yagudin- Lawrence of Arabia, Gladiator, Chopin SP

    Takeshi Honda- Don Quixote SP

    Takahashi- Rachmaninoff 2 LP, La Estrada LP

    Kulik- 1998 Oly LP, Liebestraum (ex), Aladdin LP (97), Nutcracker (pro)

    Rudy Galindo- 1996 US nationals LP (Swan Lake)

    Viktor Petrenko- 91 worlds and 92 worlds LPs, 94 Oly LP, 93 Oly SP, 88 Oly LP

    Brian Orser- 88 worlds LP, 88 Oly ex (the story of my life)

    Boitano- 88 Oly LP, Carousel waltz pro

    Matt Savoie- 2006 US nationals LP

    Johnny Weir- 2006 Oly SP (The swan), 2004 (?) nationals- Dr. Zhivago LP and 2005(?) LP to Maria Butyrskaya's music

    Tim Goebel- Danse Macabre SP

    Jeff Buttle- Rachmaninoff SP

    Paul Wylie- most of his pro numbers (Miss Saigon, Carmina Burana, JFK, Apollo 13, Schindlers list)

    Gregorz Philipowski- 1989 worlds LP (Warsaw concerto)

    Petr Barna- Chaplin ex

    Robin Cousins- Many of his pro numbers (I don't know the music in some cases); loved his long lines and foot work

    John Curry- Don Quixote (1976?)
     
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  24. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Sasha

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    Here are the ladies- could be the longest of my lists.

    Michelle Kwan- Almost all of her LPs (Salome, Taj Mahal, Lyra Anjelika, Song of the black swan, Aranjuez, Tosca), East of Eden, her 94 LP (the man from Snowy River and East of Eden), Spartacus SP

    Irina Slutskaya- 2005 world LP, 2000 GPF LPs (Carmen and Don Quixote), 2002 SP (Schubert's serenade), Shostakovich SP (2006?), Samson & Delilah, Schindlers list

    Midori Ito- Almost all of her programs (88 Oly Sp, LP, 89 worlds LP, 90 worlds LP Scheherazadeh, 92 Oly LP), her exhibition with an umbrella (somewhere over the rainbow), the rose a pain ex, Cats (pro competition)

    Sasha Cohen- Sentimental waltz (2002), Malguena, Dark Eyes

    Katarina Witt- Carmen 1988 Oly, Lemon tree (pro), Don't cry for me Argentina (pro), Schindlers list

    Caryn Kadavy- 1987 worlds LP

    Chen Lu- 1994 Oly LP, Rach 2 at 1996 worlds (one of my all time favorites), 1998 Oly LP (Butterfly lovers)

    Mao Asada- Chopin SP, 2010 Oly LP, 2008 worlds LP

    Yu na Kim- 2010 Oly SP & LP, 2009 worlds LP

    Yukina Ota- loved all of her programs, but I can only remember Turandot from the Jr.Worlds right now. She had some lovely programs at the senior level too.

    Maria Butyrskaya- worlds 99 LP, 2000 SP, 2001 LP (Seventeen moments in spring)

    Surya Bonaly- Four seasons 1993 worlds

    Oksana Baiul- 1994 Oly SP (Swan Lake), The swan ex, Ave Maria, Enigma, the feeling begins, Color of the night (pro), La isla bonita, 93 worlds SP

    Shizuka Arakawa- 2004 Worlds LP

    Kristi Yamaguchi- 91 worlds LP, 92 worlds LP, 92 Oly SP, many pro numbers (e.g. bridge over troubled water, fantasy impromptu)

    Tara Lipinski- 1997 worlds and 1998 Oly LP

    Dorothy Hamill- Shostokovich (from the Godfly)

    Yuka Sato- 1994 worlds SP, many pro routines
     
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    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Sasha

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    I can't believe I forgot this:

    B&S- Meditation from Thais (2002 Oly and in multiple exhibitions)
    Also 'Smooth' by Santana
     
  26. shady82

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    I'll have to add Yu-na Kim's programs from this season - Giselle and Arirang.
     
  27. Jenna

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    I think these are two great programs as well, and unfortunately, she didn't skate them to their potential!
     
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    i would like to add Mao:
    -2008 sp Violin orchestra
    -2009 Sp Clair de lune
    -2010 sp Masquerade and LP bells of Moscow
    -2011 fs Liebestraum

    and all of Mao's exhibition are exquisite!!!
    especially 2009 tango (scent of a woman), 2010 caprise, 2011 ballade and Jupiter

    and takahashi 2010 lp
     
  29. sequins

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    Probably my fave program ever is Torvill & Dean 'Encounter' from the 1994 World Team Championships always manages to bring a tear to my eye. It's stunning.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OWk5a0I1BA

    Also:
    Bourne &Kraatz- 'Meet Her At The Love Parade' ( My fave FD they've done but often overlooked after it followed up 'Riverdance' and Shae was injured much of the season. This was their first performance of it & IMO their best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LywDzZa3Xqo

    Also pretty much anything by Stephane Lambiel, Jeff Buttle, Virtue & Moir and Drobiazko & Vanagas.
     
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  30. Jenna

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    I often prefer her exhibitions to her competitive programs.

    See that "Jupiter" piece? That's Mao. Masquerade? Bells? That's not Mao.

    I wish she would turn that exhibition into a short program. It's flawless.

    I also like her Liebestraume free. When skated it at 4CC, it was really pretty.