Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by fan, Dec 29, 2012.
I agree. Awesome interview and charming lady! Thank you for that.
It is very difficult to get israeli citizenship. He is Israeli. Im beginning to wonder if he has a problem staying with a partner???
Sorry to see this happen!
I hope that's not the end of the dream to have Israel in the team event at 2018
I watched pairs with my Sister, When K\D were in the K&C she immediately said "They're gonna split",
Their body language was very telling, No contact, Big gap between.
I can't believe they split, and the Olympics isn't even over yet. Let the poor girl enjoy the rest of the event!
That is very disappointing news. They were very impressive at Europeans, considering they were only a new partnership. I wonder who would he pair up? Anastasia Martiusheva? Obviously she would need to improve her jumping consistency.
I always thought once you had jewish heritage that it was 'relatively' easy to get Israeli citzenship. Look at Shelepen
It's easy to get Israeli citizenship if you're Jewish. She could convert.
And he is originally from Ukraine, just as she is.
I see a couple of possibilities here.
If you have Jewish heritage you can prove (at least one of your grandparents IIRC?), then yes.
Davidovich was a pretty consistent jumper I thought and she mastered pair elements quite quickly. And she was very young still with a lot of potential. It won't be easy for him to find another partner this good.
Maybe they just didn't get along on a personal level.
Its interesting how things are perceived from both outside and up close. I have been following the pair from initial Montalbano / krasnopolski pairing . They struggled at first as they were both new pair skaters. Over the years , not sure ziggy if you were at Europeans
Berne,when Danielle dislocated her shoulder during official practice, but I was in dressing room listening to the poor girl apologizing to her partner while being taken off ona stretcher in ambulette. Research tells me when she broke her ankle they were just off a bronze medal and ranked 22 in world. Montalbano fought to go to the Olympics, he didnt wait for her to heal. His right, but i dont think he will think twice about moving on. I see Danielle is still on ice partner search.
I hope she succeeds. Some how nice guys always seem to finish last.
Btw Ziggy , thanks for all your commentaries. I enjoy your words.
Really hope Davidovich continues and gets PapaBoria to find her a new partner. It would be fun seeing them competing against each other next Europeans taking they earned 2 spots for Israel.
In his interview to the Israeli press Krasnopolski stated his goal were the Olympics. He also said one of the reasons dumping Montalbano was deciding she will prevent him from reaching his goals and Davidovich seemed a safer bet. He reached his goal, participated the Olympics, made it to the LP. I hope his next goal is a brain implantation surgery, going back to Davidovich if she'll have him and continuing skating
Ha!!!!! Is all I can say!! And he didnt Dump Montalbano although you seem to know so much. Broken ankle does not equate with DUMP. It equates to same callousness that seems to have broken up this partnership. But you know best!!!!
How does dropping a partner who wants to continue together not equal to dump? Isn't that part of your whole point, evil Evgeni dumped poor injured Dani and deprived of her of an Olympic spot? You need to be more consistent.
Yes to all of that. And the last sentence made me think of this movie scene.
You know, it would kind of maybe make sense if he had a much stronger partner lined up. But he is on IPS so he doesn't.
I feel sorry for Montalbano but I can understand Krasnopolski dumping her because she was seriously injured and he wanted to go to the Olympics. Tough for her but it's life. But this break-up, I cannot understand at all.
I agree Ziggy. I am sure Montalbano wanted to go to olympics too and was on her way .Zemgirl and Tabhka have it out for Montalbano always have. I am quite consistent ask the magazine I write for. I feel Krasnopolski has serious issues and feel for any partner. A partnership involves a little consideration on both parts. That is why there are so few pairs. Look at Max and Tonya . Beautiful skaters, and relationship with mutual respect not one sided ambition.
Shouldn't the thread title be changed to "Insert skater name here/Evgeni Krasnopolsky split" ?
I have no opinion about Montalbano, only about your overzealous advocacy on her behalf.
And I'm that you used Volosozhar and Trankov as an example here (it's Tatiana, not Tonya, BTW). You do recall that Trankov dumped his previous partner and essentially ended her career in order to pair up with Volosozhar, don't you?
There's nothing wrong with being ambitious. It got Trankov an OGM and Krasnopolski a trip to the Olympics, and I doubt either of them would have gotten as far with their original partners.
sorry, i should have started a new thread so that montalbano wasn't brought into the discussion
If only half of the crap between Trankov's former partner and their coach is true, the Trankov had every reason to end that partnership, regardless off what happened with Volosozhar. They had different technique when they got together, and there was no guarantee they'd be OGM-worthy by Sochi, especially with the way S/S were skating in the middle of the cycle and the excellence of their programs. I wouldn't have faulted Trankov -- who I don't think is a saint, BTW -- for dumping Murkhortova to skate with Montalbano.
Exactly. So he's split with Davidovich now? Wow. They looked great in Euros and fine at Oly, even if it was not as impressive. Davidovich is such a sparkling, sunny skater. What a shame.
To be fair, he would probably dump Mukhortova even if Tatiana wasn't suddenly without a partner. there is only so much one can take and if your partner is bumping your coach, the skating conditions probably wasn't very good. E.g. the time when he was not allowed to take time off and #Maria went with their coach on a holiday! I would probably dump my partner immediately after this.
I really liked this pair this year at the Europeans!
I second the brain surgery idea. He is absolutely nuts to dump Davidovich, who is so talented and a sparkler.
Sorry, does anyone know for sure if he was actually the one to end the partnership? For all we know, he could be hard to get along with or something and she chose to end it.
Yes, it was his decision.
Maybe he heard that Savchenko will be available so he decided to place himself into good position to be noticed (advertising "I am free too!!!")
The rumours said Trankov was not particularly nice to Mukhortova before the coaching switch... Have an impression everyone there got what they deserved
Montalbano had a very serious injury and it wasn't certain whether she would have recovered in time for Nebelhorn. Why should have Kransopolski potentially sacrificed his own Olympic dreams for her?
Sometimes there is more then what meets the eye and the opinions of fans who only see the teams at competition. The day to day training, family support etc all come into play and its not just olympic dreams involved. Cold cold sport. No loyalty. I doubt Savchenko would look twice. But,who knows.
Davidovich now has her profile on IPS, so I guess that's that - though there's hope yet for the dueling Israeli pairs scenario
Davidovich pairing up with Montalbano and beating whoever Krasnapolski will find to skate with?
Like a Blades of Glory sequel
I love the new thread title.
This is yet another sign that Andrey aka Pushkin and TAHbKA must team up and claim one of those spots at Euros!
They can sleep on my couch in Zagreb when they come to get the TES minimum at the Golden spin & PRLady can deal with the media and help organize the fundraising.
Of course! How could I have missed this excellent idea?
You can monitor their practices, film them and put them online for FSUeres experts to analyze and help them get the right GOEs!
I am volunteering to play the role of the audience. I would love to watch that!
How's aboot this Zemzem ?
I suspect in any relationship, its rarely just one person's fault. There are always three sides to a story well in this case probably four, Trankov, Oleg, Maria's, and then the truth.
I take an issue with the idea that he ruined Maria's career. Nobody's required to skate with someone for life. They don't owe anyone their entire career. However, there seems to be a double standard. We like new partnership better- its okay. Your a John Coughlin or an Evan Bates, its wrong wrong wrong.
What do you mean by 'then the truth?'
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