ESPN docum on Tonya-Nancy: 20 Years After on Thurs, Jan 16

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  1. Yehudi

    Yehudi Well-Known Member

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    This is up on Netflix now
  2. neptune

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    Thanks for the info.

    Has anybody heard any news on the NBC Tonya 'n' Nancy interview yet? It's bizarre how they seem to be keeping the air date a secret.
  3. cmk

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    Without the scandal, Tonya would have skated a lot better and finished a lot higher than 8th. She was the only elgible woman at the time capable of doing the triple axel (Ito was competing in the pro ranks at the time), she was the best jumper, the best spinner, had awesome speed and power, and was a lot more artistic than she was ever given credit for. If she would have had the same skates as 94 nationals at the olympics, she might not of beat Oksana but if the judges were only judging the skating, she should definately have beaten Nancy (if Nancy would of even qualified without the whack- if I were a judge at us nationals, I would of had Tonya as champ, and Kwan and bobek would still have been on the podium, and I would have even given Zayak higher presentation marks than Kerrigan as well ( Zayak at least looked like she liked to skate).

    Nancy's skating was not elegant or artistic- it was slow, labored, and awkard. The costumes were elegant , but I prefer that skaters be able to do spirals without having to hold their leg.
  4. BaileyCatts

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    I only heard it mentioned one time when Bob Costas was still there (so had to be first couple days). He was talking to Mary after one of her stories and mentioned how its been 20 years since Tonya/Nancy and Mary had interviewed them both and it would be "coming up later in our coverage". That was the only time I've heard it mentioned.

    I wonder how long it is? the ESPN one was 90 minutes. I don't see how they could do something longer than 10 minutes during Prime Time coverage (you know, a typical time allotment for skating /sarcasamoff). Unless it will maybe air on the last Saturday or Sunday, when there are very few events left and they need to kill time before the Closing Ceremony?
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  5. museksk8r

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    If I had to guess, I would say it is likely to air during the Olympic coverage on Wednesday, 2/19, since that is the day the ladies are scheduled to skate their SPs and to commemorate the 1994 Olympic ladies' SP being the most highly watched Olympic ladies skating event in US history.
  6. allegria

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    Found an article that mentions NBC's documentary. It's being held in reserve in case bad weather cancels events:

    http://www.deadline.com/2014/02/mer...y-at-olympics-tonight-subbing-for-bob-costas/
  7. neptune

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    She wasn't as good overall (including presentation) as she had been in previous years, but when she was on, her skating was still formidable. And yes, I do think she would have skated a lot better than she did, whether the judges would have rewarded her or not. It's sad, because Tonya completely sabotaged her own chances. :(

    Actually, with the same two performances, she would've deserved to beat everyone IMO. Maybe not Kristi's and Midori's LP performances from '92 (but not that far behind either), but certainly everyone in Lillehammer.

    I can see giving Zayak higher presentation marks than Kerrigan.

    It wasn't as elegant or artistic as it was made out to be. Kerrigan did have a mature line and air about her, but if she had been only average-looking, I doubt she would've ever been called artistic.
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  8. neptune

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    Hopefully at least three or four minutes. ;)

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    Carillo: Tonya, did you know about the attack beforehand?

    Harding: What attack?

    Carillo: Um...our coverage will return after a few words from your local station. (Psst! Yo, Jerry! Tell Nancy that she can come in now!!)

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    :D

    Sounds like a good guess.

    Thanks for the info. Isn't it sweet how we always have Tonya 'n' Nancy to fall back on? :)
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  9. neptune

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  11. Simone411

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    Thank you! I just autotuned it. It's starting at 6 p.m. central here.
  12. neptune

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    You're welcome. Hopefully there will be some interesting tidbits we haven't heard before. And I wonder what Tonya will say about the handwriting on the paper this time around. ;)
  13. Susan1

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    This is supposed to be on Sunday night. Is it the same thing as the one that was just on one of the ESPNs?
  14. BaileyCatts

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    ^ Well, its the same 'story'. But it was done by NBC so ... different. :lol:

    But it is not simply a repeat of the ESPN version. Mary Carillo did all the interviews and this was produced by NBC.
  15. neptune

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    Right. I think one reason Nancy agreed to talk to NBC is that they convinced her they would give her a fair shake. Her response: "That's fine--just make it chocolate." :lol:
  16. LuckyCharm

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    NBC version just started. Anyone watching?
  17. Rex

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    I am, Lucky Charm. Tonya's karaoke was...unfortunate.
  18. LuckyCharm

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    ^:lol:Not sure why they felt the need to include that.:confused:

    ETA: Jeff Gillooly sans mustache looks like a super nice guy. With it, he instantly becomes a comic book villain.
  19. Rex

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    ^^^I know, like Snidely Whiplash...

    Tonya's 3axel was still something to see.

    Christine Brennan's presence is sure to offend someone....
  20. LuckyCharm

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    It did me, kinda.:shuffle: Not to mention Phil Hersh...

    Nancy is adorably awkward, both 20 years ago and today.

    :lol: at Tonya deriding Mozart.

    And lying saying she didn't smoke while she was competing. Girl, just stop.
  21. viennese

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    WTFing at Tonya's delusional memory at being friends with Nancy, back in the day.

    Nancy: No, we were competitors and teammates.
    Tonya's former coach: "There was not much love lost between them." (Tonya was only friendly to those whose skating was not a threat to her)
    Tonya: We were friends!!!!!
  22. Rex

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    I still don't think Tonya gets it...the magnitude of what she did. And she lies...lies...lies.
  23. my little pony

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    what day does she think she would be asked about?
  24. Rex

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    Boxing Day.
  25. mpal2

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    So do we think the death threat against Tonya that allowed her to get a bye to Nationals might have been the first in a series of lies? :shuffle:
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  26. Rex

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    It was the FIRST thing that crossed my mind.
  27. my little pony

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    was that before or after the time she said her ovarian cyst burst while she was skating in a GP?
  28. Rex

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    Scrunchies and mall perms. Loved the 90s.
  29. my little pony

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    that "proof" tonya just provided does not hold a lot of water
  30. Cheylana

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    The goons took Tonya to the mountains and put a gun to her head and threatened to kill her if she didn't say what they told her to say?
    Right.
  31. my little pony

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    she didnt bring that up for > 10 yrs when she had a book to sell
  32. Rex

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    I remember E!' True Hollywood Story, she alluded to being sexually assaulted as well.
  33. my little pony

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    oh too bad fred's asleep, i know he loves this part where she points to her laces with a sad face

    and tonya's blaming them for putting her at the end?

    and now she is saying they were going to score her poorly regardless?

    i cant with her, i just cant
  34. my little pony

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    lol, tonya endorses oksana because she was like a less good version of her
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    It's crazy the officials didn't have the Ukranian national anthem ready to go, considering Oksana was the reigning World Champion. :huh:
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  36. LuckyCharm

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    That scene backstage before the medal ceremony is when I officially fell in love with Nancy Kerrigan.

    Yep, ridiculous.
  37. viennese

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    Who were the other skaters in that pre-short program practice group, the one packed with all the photographers and reporters?

    I remember mention of Lily Lee of South Korea, but I think I saw a fourth girl.
  38. my little pony

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    she thinks this is an apology, i know she thinks it was. but it isnt. and she seems to really hate nancy for whatever warped reason.
  39. Rex

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    I still like Nancy. And I'm happy that her life is where she wants it to be.
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  40. mpal2

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    Tonya thinks no one wants to hear the story anymore but she shows up for every interview.