Elene Gedevanishvili Makes Coaching Change - Nikolai Morozov

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  1. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

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    I actually started a thread asking why people hate Morozov awhile ago, and I got a lot of good replies even though not quite the clear answers I was looking for. It's in the trash can a few pages back, but I'm too lazy to get the link.
  2. Mevrouw

    Mevrouw living every minute

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    His behavior to Wife #1 and Wife #2 in 'loving and leaving' them (#1 with baby) and serial girlfriends during and after marriages is part of it. Also his ranting at Bompard a couple of years ago (find it in the archives for yourself) are another part of why he is considered despicable by many.
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  3. ginask8s

    ginask8s New Member

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    Perhaps he will double dip so to speak.
  4. orbitz

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    Unless the new model plans to become THE girlfriend :p.
  5. Coco

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    I've always had soft spot for Elene, and if he messes with her, well, he needs to be blacklisted.
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  6. Jenna

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    Well, I don't like him, but hopefully this means she can actually land more than 3 triple jumps per FS.
  7. Civic

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    Back up! Miki Ando and Nikolai Morozov are an item?!? How long have they been involved?
  8. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

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    For more than a year and a half.

    September 2009 Japan Times Article About the Rumors

    However, as mentioned in the article, he's been coaching her since February 2006. :shuffle:

    Besides his sexual history mentioned upthread, there's this:

    Is Miki Ando's skating coach a Japan hater?

    :eek: :mad: :scream:
  9. kia_4EverOnIce

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    if Facebook is a valid source, they're not an item now...
    But I'm among those who never believed this story, so...:D
  10. victoriaheidi

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    I'm kind of happy that Elene decided to do something different, but I'm just wishing she hadn't chosen Morozov.
  11. care bear

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    You can read about it in "Pirouette" 7/2009 (p.20)
  12. Jenny81

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    :eek::eek::eek:
    It's shocking.
  13. immoimeme

    immoimeme having a nice day

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    Back up to here-WHAT?!?!?!?! :confused:
  14. Civic

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    Has Morozov ever had an adult female pupil who he didn't date? That is the question, imo.
  15. orbitz

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    Fumie.
  16. skfan

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    i read somewhere that during a competition (whose name escapes me), the eurosports commentators said, on air, that javier is dating miki, but that's not even third hand info :)
  17. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    Smart girl, Fumie. I always thought she had a good head on her shoulders.
  18. Coco

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    um, maybe she didn't have the option.

    I don't think Morozov and Marchei ever dated.
  19. Jaana

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    I have the impression that Elena´s career is at the point, where it does not matter much who might be her coach.
  20. poths

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    He's a complete fckwad. I still :rofl: at the fact that he asked me outside for a fight, TWICE!!!!!!!:rofl: in the one night.

    Having said that, Gedevanishvili promised a lot in 2006, 5 years later she has completely stagnated and he may well help her given that she does actually have the tools to be a champion. He seems to be great at instilling self belief and confidence and that's exactly what Elena needs, IMHO.
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  21. Proustable

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    It's clear to me that I don't know most of the story (in general) with regards to Morosov.
  22. Ziggy

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    I hope I'm going to be proven wrong but it looks like Elene is a lost case.

    She needs more training time and less extra-curricular activities. A disciplinarian kind of coach. I was hoping Wagner would be just that.

    But it seems that she either wasn't that or that she was and it still didn't help. In that case, what she needs is a very good sport psychologist.

    It's simple:
    a) he's a racist
    b) he screws everything that moves

    Is that defined clearly enough for you? ;)

    To get a sense of perspective, what he said in the story quoted above is what Galliano lost his job and is now being prosecuted for.
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  23. Southpaw

    Southpaw Saint Smugpawski

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    You're an attractive man, what else was he supposed to do with you? :lol:
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  24. pinky166

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    Idk, I know the puberty monster wasn't particularly kind to her, but she is still capable of a huge Sebestyen like 3lutz and 3t-3t-2t combos, and she's flexible and can spin and all that, consistency is really her biggest weakness, she's actually pretty a pretty well-rounded skater otherwise. I mean I don't think she'll ever be able to medal at worlds, but I do think if she can become more consistent she could medal at GP events and Euros, maybe even win those kind of events.
  25. LadyNit

    LadyNit moving right along Staff Member

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    Seriously, IMO she's grounded by her ginormous boobs and will never make good on the potential she showed in Torino.

    I'm hoping Morozov will give her a techno Swan Lake program. :p Anything is better than the show tune razzamataz numbers she tends to use. :scream:
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  26. overedge

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    I guess it will depend on which tracks on the three CDs he owns that haven't been assigned to other skaters yet :p
  27. julieann

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    :rofl:
  28. skateboy

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    As far as him screwing everything that moves, I really don't care--it takes two to tango.

    But racist comments are VERBOTEN!
  29. Jackie Sparrow

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    I am probably wrong but I think he limits himself to the female human species.

    I think that comment does not apply when the woman is dependent on the man and many years younger, if not even under age.
  30. poths

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    He's basically the teacher/mentor/ in a position of trust and power.

    The root of all of his problems is his dependency on alcohol. I think if he was ever to confront that issue, he'd be a different guy.
  31. poths

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    And the fit, agile, athletic, well kempt side the species. ;) Just think, you could have been on that list........:drama:
  32. hanca

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    Glad to hear that I am safe then! :lol:
  33. Jackie Sparrow

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    I consider myself old and intelligent enough not to fall for such a guy, so no, I could no thave been on that list ;)
  34. Ziggy

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    I've heard gossip saying otherwise but it's never been corroborated. ;)

    It's totally wrong but I'd actually do him, even though he's such a total slimeball. :D

    Yep, that's what really bothers me here. It's not a level playing field under those conditions.
  35. shine

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    Are you saying him and Arakawa dated too???? Please tell me no.
  36. Jackie Sparrow

    Jackie Sparrow New Member

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    Some people have standards, others don't. That's the way it is.
  37. Cheylana

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    :eek::yikes:Seems unlikely since he coached Shizuka for such a short time only.... no?
  38. Ziggy

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    What a diplomatic way of saying: You're a shameless slag! :D
  39. Jackie Sparrow

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    Innit ;)
  40. smarts1

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    What I find most interesting is how much you guys know about skaters' and coaches' personal lives...