DWTS 5/17-18: The Semi-Finals

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  1. jenny12

    jenny12 Well-Known Member

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    :lol: I think she'd be fun as a host. She definitely couldn't be worse than what we have now. (Although I did say that with Samantha!)
     
  2. danceronice

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    Yeah, I think we all got a valuable lesson in "be careful what you wish for" here.
     
  3. Yazmeen

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    Well, at least Nicole dances better than she sings - good grief, she went off key at least a dozen times in that song. So why was she the lead singer when the other doll who had a brief solo had much better pipes????
     
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  5. Prancer

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    Heh heh heh. Nicole has pretty much all the power in the group, which has led to a lot of trouble, group replacements and "candid" interviews from other Cats, who aren't very fond of her. Nicole basically IS the Pussycat Dolls; the others are pretty much incidental--or were. Last I heard, there are only two of them left and there are plans to put together a new cast. I have no idea who really sings what live, but Nicole does all but a few the vocals on their albums, lead and backing. The others are dancers by training and background, not singers, although they are all supposed to be able to carry a tune.

    In her defense, she is probably the most educated and multi-talented member of the group; she is the only one who writes music and she has a pretty good songwriting career going even if she never sings another note.

    It's funny that you say that, though, because Nicole has always been considered more of a singer who's a very good dancer than a very good dancer who can sing :shuffle:.
     
  6. Bev Johnston

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    I had never seen Nicole or The PCDs before DWTS. Although I do remember that dreadful song that was out a few years ago.

    After watching that link, I have to say that I don't think her stage charisma is very strong, either. Oh well, maybe I'm just jaded after watching her cry for weeks. Or maybe it was that little YouTube window that I was using to watch it.
     
  7. Garden Kitty

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    Watching the finalists and their partners, Cari Ann and Bruno and Tom and Brooke on Larry King Live. Brooke is coming across better and more articulate on this show than DWTS, although there are a couple times she's interrupted Tom during their segment, and I'll bet that Tom would have been more interesting.

    Evan once again comes across as a nice guy and so appreciative of his partner. And Nicole would like us all to know that she's fabulously successful and busy but she made time for the show because her Mom is a big fan of the show.

    Line of the night goes to Tom. In response to Larry's question "why do you think DWTS beat AI in the ratings this year" , Tom responded "more people watched our show than AI" :lol:

    Evan mentioned that they're doing the Viennese waltz again on Mo
     
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  8. Prancer

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    As this review says: There are two kinds of girl groups: those anchored by a superstar (the Supremes, Destiny's Child), and those made up of charismatic personalities 
endowed with limited individual gifts (Spice Girls, TLC). The Pussycat Dolls are 
neither — they're a brand, not a band. This follow-up to 2005's multiplatinum PCD finds lead Doll Nicole Scherzinger in the spotlight, and she's no Beyoncé.

    http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20226270,00.html

    It's funny, because she is beautiful and talented. She just doesn't have that molten "it" factor going for her.
     
  9. Bev Johnston

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    Right. She doesn't seem to have the self-confidence of a Beyonce or Diana Ross.
     
  10. Wyliefan

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    I would expect no less. :D
     
  11. Garden Kitty

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    Per Anna's twitter:

     
  12. barbk

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    How does voting work in the finals? Do viewers vote both Monday and Tuesday? Is the title determined by the vote totals Monday night, and the dances Tuesday don't matter? Or do the judges ultimately make the decision on Tuesday? (If that's the case, they might as well give Nicole the trophy now.)
     
  13. jenny12

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    Yeah, I saw her singing a bit of Ave Maria (just a few seconds) on George Lopez and she sounded quite lovely and way better than she did singing on Dancing with the Stars, but there's something kinda insecure about her.
     
  14. Garden Kitty

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    IIRC, viewers vote only on Monday, and it's just judges scores on Tuesday, but the scores have always been so close that they don't have any real impact (since they use the relative percentages of points awarded by the judges)
     
  15. ArtisticFan

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    Typically they will give the same scores on Tuesday. However, they do the Tuesday thing as a safety net. There have been too many other shows that when left to the audience voting, you get some strange or inappropriate results. For example, if Kate was in the finals you can bet she'd get crappy scores from the judges to take away any chance she had of winning.

    If Nicole and Evan are the final two then I see them both getting 30's for their Tuesday night dances. However, if the viewer votes go toward let's say Evan and Erin, I would think the judges would hold back on the scores for Erin and Evan and prop Nicole up even more.


    I think they put this in after season two. In season one there was a just a final two and not three couples in the final. Season two comes and you have Drew, Jerry, and Stacy in the final. It appears from the judges scores and the results that Stacy was getting very little support from phone or internet votes. She gets eliminated during the final and then you have Drew and Jerry as the final two. There was no dance to score them with that final night so the judges/producers could just sit there and watch.

    Not too long after you start having these finale night dances where everyone gets a 10. They have never come out and said it, but I still maintain that it is for protection. They don't want a Jerry Rice winning over a Drew. It is their safety net.
     
  16. pixie cut

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    Not only did Drew, Jerry and Stacy have a dance on finale night, it was a new dance. Stacy won that with her new samba and received a 30. She was eliminated a few moments later. Neither Drew nor Jerry got anything close to 30. She was simply too far behind from the first night's competition. Although she received a perfect 30 for her jive, her freestyle was really bad. Who knows if the results would have been any different if she'd done a better freestyle.
     
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    Thanks, LadyNit!

    I wonder which opportunities he will choose next.
    I'd love to see if he can integrate some of the qualities he has found through DWTS into his skating - competitive or Pro.
     
  21. numbers123

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    after all the :drama: of season 1 with Kelly Monacco's contraversal win :yikes:, they needed a safety net for the results.

    Of all the seasons, that's the one that I did not agree with the winner. If Nicole wins this year, I will be disappointed but not disgusted as I was with Kelly's "win"
     
  22. pixie cut

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    Season one was kind of a joke. I don't think anyone at the network took it too seriously. They didn't really think anything through. It was just thrown on the air and unbelievably it was a huge hit. After that, they started to examine the dynamic, really think about casting, consider rules, etc.
     
  23. Garden Kitty

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    Season One was a prime example of the fact viewers like a "storyline" - and the pretty but charmingly insecure woman who grows in confidence and ability is an applealing one. It also showed the loyalty of soap opera fans.
     
  24. Prancer

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    But wasn't the show based on the British Strictly Come Dancing, which is basically the same thing, right down to having Len and Bruno judge? You'd think they would have had a clue or two.
     
  25. pixie cut

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    They had a clue, but I don't think they expected many people would watch. They followed the basic format, but they didn't really think things through to the last detail. When viewers cared so deeply about the final result, I think the producers and the network were stunned.
     
  26. Rob

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    When Season 1 aired, there was a significant "vote the worst" momentum. The vote the worst people started by voting for Evander Holyfield, but they switched to Kelly.