Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Garden Kitty, Apr 26, 2010.
How many contestants from the past 9 seasons and the current one can really be classified as "star"?
Hidden gems of this week: http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/04/27/dwts-your-hidden-gems-of-week-6/
EW's recaps are really good.
A while ago I heard a comedian on a radio show asked if she would consider being a contestant on DWTS. She made a keen observation: which stars have become more successful as a result of being on the show? Seems like something to consider doing only when your career is on the wane.
Kimmel to Jake Pavelka last night: "was it hard for you to be on a reality show with a woman you were not sleeping with?"
Shoo! Apollo is a star in my eyes. Gilles Marini is definitely a star in many people's eyes.
Good point! I'd love to see some contestants from RuPaul Drag Race to be on dancing with the stars. Those lady boys have the Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerve, and Talent to kick some serious b*tt. They're fierce competitors! Can you imagine Demetri dancing with Nina Flower? OMG!
First of all, I have to say I did the happy dance when Pam was told she was safe! And was very happy that I didn't have to wait that long to learn the same about Maks ... I mean Erin. I really wasn't worried about Evan being in the bottom two, but wished that it had been Chad instead of Niecy, but at least she survived to dance another week. So for Pam, Erin, Evan, and Niecy! My impossible dream would be for these four to remain the longest, but I know that the judges will make sure that Miss Pussycat will outlast at least a couple of them.
When they announced that Jake was the one leaving, half of my "druthers" had been granted -- and if Chad is the next to go, then my druthers would be completely fulfilled. Those two were definitely the lowest on my list, both in terms of dance ability and likability.
I don't watch any reality shows (except for occasional 5-10 minute hits of Extreme Makeover: Home Edition and Super Nanny), so it seems I've been spared. I think perhaps Jake and Chad's annoying factor seemed more evident once Kate was no longer around.
I guess it would depend on how one defines "star". But although I would only consider a few of them as "big stars" in their fields (mostly past their days of peak stardom), I'd say that about 50% of the contestants could be considered as a "star" of some sort. The rest have been "celebrities" of some degree -- though most of the reality show contestants have been "stars" from a universe completely unknown to me.
Ok, so that makes 2?
Well, Kristi definitely would push it to at least three.
I didn't list all the soap stars like Susan Lucci, Cameron Mathison, etc. What about international movie stars like Jane Seymour? Cloris Leachman is an Oscar winner for goodness sake.
Granted, they may not be the hottest Hollywood stars at the moment. They will be stars forever even if they quit show business now.
That's why I've watched it exactly four seasons/ parts of seasons - for Olympians I like, who are stars to me. (Inc. Kristi, Natalie, Shawn.) Some of the other athletes (football players) would be considered big stars to other people.
I was thinking recently how great it'd be if they really could get bigger-name actors (or musicians or whatever) to do the show between other gigs. Would love to see A- or HighB-list TV or film actors trying this. But potential embarrassment aside, the quoted fees probably aren't actually high enough for someone who's making "real" TV or film money.
For athletes whose visibility is pretty limited to fans of their sport, DTWS is a great opportunity to find a broader audience, which can translate into higher-paid endorsements. For reality stars, yes, a sixteenth minute of fame. For unknown actors on the way up, like Gilles, a good showcase.
But for the already-arrived? Nope. Too many chances to make a fool of yourself, lose to a nobody or be less likable on live TV than you are in a carefully staged press or photo op.
I know. I was just teasing you. Your post was pretty funny in that context.
We haven't even mentioned the several hall-of-fame caliber football players that have appeared, nor the many successful recording artists. The show has certainly had plenty of legitimate "stars" over the years.
If star means a household name (even if just for a particular generation), I think there have been quite a few of those even if they were past their pinnacle when they went on the show - like the Osmonds, Wayne Newton, maybe Jerry Springer and Pam Anderson, for example. Others were once at the top of their field so they'd be stars in the field even if not a household name -- Like the Woz, the OGMs, Monica Seles, Oscar winners, Superbowl winners, etc.
And then there is the who the heck is Albert Reed or Stacy Keibler category.
re: Jake and no respect from many, I can only state my objections. First, anyone who ho's themselves on the bachelor or bachelorette is ick. All the hot tub scenes, all the leadng people on, the scam of true love on a reality show, ick, ick, ick (and those are only the activities shown in the minutes of commericals - I do not watch it). Add that to the stumbling moves and the "me, me, me" attitude. And finally what mpal said.
Jake also bothered me when he treated his Pro badly at the beginning.
I think that Pam Anderson will get a career boost out of this even if she leaves in a couple of weeks. I wouldn't be surprised to see her cast on a sitcom. She's really improved her likeability factor.
Oh jeez, I forgot all these others had been on the show. [I was going to mention the Osmonds being big stars to some. ]
And Monica Seles, yes - I watched it for all the five minutes that she was on.
Are we twins?
The attitudes of people who've achieved fame and success with no talent is offensive to anyone who's actually toiled at anything. At least it's offensive to me. Every time I see Kate Gosselin on the cover of People magazine I feel ill. She acts like she's the biggest star in the world and she has zero degree of humility because she buys totally into her own hype.
We all know the vast majority of people on Dancing with the Stars aren't currently A listers. The show is a lot of work, and people currently fully occupied in the entertainment industry generally don't want to do that degree of work. So it's more appealing to those trying to either establish or revive their stars.
The current move to more and more reality stars in the cast -- Kate Gosselin and the most recent Bachelor on the same season -- is a little disturbing. Perceived as people whose stars are high now. Give me every former 90210-er, a snow boarder, a figure skater, a sitcom queen from the 90s, etc. These are people who know how to entertain and are grateful for the work.
Sitcoms are hard to survive though. The network would probably want to put her in a sitcom as a hot single mom raising teenagers who are embarrassed of their sexy mom . Been there. Done that. Maybe she can do a Nicolette Sheridan-like role for the short-term on DH.
Just please don't give her a reality show.
Nope, don't watch the Bachellor or The Bachelorette. Pretty much the only "reality" TV I watch is DWTS and my guilty-pleasure show, ANTM. (When I remember it's on.) Really, besides DWTS, the only show on one of the major networks I watch is NCIS. So most of the 'reality' stars are blank slates for me.
I just watched it now. Major to Melissa Ethridge. Love her.
I would really like Nicole to go next. She is so grating, whiny and pretentious and not nearly as good as her scores would suggest.
I'm afraid that just like Joanna last season, Nicole will be dancing until the finale.
Joanna was ousted in the semi final.
I thought that she had made the top 3 -- shows just how bad my memory is. Then I suppose there is still some hope that Nicole will leave before then.
More like another reality show (thanks to E!; although at least she didn't have her children involved with the show)
I too get tired of the seemingly endless parade of reality stars on DWTS. I am aware that they probably cost less than the actors or even athletes at their prime. The show has to have a certain quantity to make it a full season so quality is not always a priority.
However, they seem to miss some opportunities. We've seen the parade of football players trying to dance and even two boxers. Have we seen a baseball player? A soccer player? I won't even get into the ones they have skipped over in the entertainment field.
Honestly, I think the reason is economics more than anything else. We know each "star" is paid a differing amount whether that is the weekly rate or the signing amount. Pam is probably more expensive than Jake for example.
I would still like to see them do a champ season. Past champs could come back with new partners and see who is the best of the supposed best. It would be a way to capitalize on the fame of past winners and let them mug for the camera more.
Yikes! I don't remember that at all, which is probably good for me. Although shows like that may bring a celeb money and attention, they don't usually do much to improve his or her image. They often do just the opposite. I cringe whenever someone I like signs up for something like that.
Oh Pam! NO!
Why can't she get a nice show where she acts like a normal mother in her 40's, instead of a sexpot?
Something like CSI, Law & Order, etc. A good part in a good series.
She can act, people just don't notice it because she is always getting the sexy role on a silly series.
I also wish her a good man after the losers she has had.
Per Anna's twitter, Evan and Anna have the Argentine tango next week.
Yeah, that's a great idea. Kind of like Celebrity Apprentice or Survivor All-Stars! I think it would be a hit!!
When the ratings start to go down then the producers will bring out the Dancing With The All-Stars. Can you imagine the following pairs competing against each other: Kristi & Mark, Mel B & Maks, Mario L & Karina, Julianna & Apollo, Jason Taylor & Edyta, Evan & Anna, Lisa Rhena & Louis, Gilles & Cheryl, Mya & Dimitri, Joey & Kim. Now that will be a competition !
If that doesn't work out, maybe we could just bring Gilles back each season?
I'd still have to vote Mel B and Maks. Their Paso was the best I've seen.
The Argentine tango should suit Evan very well.
Basketball players? Clyde Drexler was in season 4, but he wasn't very good and was voted off in week 4.
I don't think there have been any soccer players, but they did have a beach volleyball player and a UFC guy.
Maks was interviewed on our local radio this morning. You all probably know this, but I didn't and found it interesting. He was on the Olympic reserve team in swimming.
Jimmy Fallon joked that DWTS will compensate by next airing a real life train wreck .
They've had a former basketball player, a former tennis player, a female wrestler, a rodeo star, 2 male boxers, a female boxer, an Indy car driver, a martial arts/actor, a ultimate fighting champ, but they seem to focus on the NFL and Olympic athletes as far as sports go. Maybe Beckham would oblige?
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