Downton Abbey - Season 4 on PBS

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Artemis@BC, Dec 31, 2013.

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    Always like it when this thread is a the top and not inactive. The important thing is that this one looks like the older version of the current Sybbie.
     
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    I don't know if this has been posted previously, but absolute must reading for Downton Abbey fans are two books by the current Countess of Carnavon who is married to the 8th Earl of Carnavon (present heir at Highclere Castle, which is the real Downton Abbey).

    Lady Almina and the Real Downton Abbey: The Lost Legacy of Highclere Castle, 2011 by Fiona, The Countess of Carnavon

    A narrative backstory (1895-1923) of the marriage between Almina Wombwell (illegitimate daughter of Alfred de Rothschild) and the 5th Earl of Carnavon (who funded the Egyptian excavation/ discovery of the Tomb of King Tut in 1922). Almina is the real Countess who masterminded the turning of Highclere Castle into a hospital for injured World War I vets. Hers was a true love story, but also a marriage of convenience due to the wealth of her generous benefactor and known-to-be father, the wealthy Alfred de Rothschild. Almina was a generous and enterprising heroine in her own right, but she didn't actually understand how to manage money since she never lacked for it during her father's lifetime. His enormous wealth enabled Almina to fund a state-of-the-art healthcare facility at Highclere during World War I and later in London, plus she ultimately helped save and preserve Highclere Castle for future Carnavons. They also truly lived very high on the hog, no kidding! This is an amazing true story full of twists and turns, fascinating real characters and events. These are the characters and events which inspired Downton Abbey creator Julian Fellowes (who is friendly with the 8th Earl of Carnavon and has been a frequent dinner party guest at the real castle).

    Lady Catherine, the Earl and the Real Downton Abbey, 2013 by Fiona, The Countess of Carnavon

    Narrative backstory (1923-1945) of the marriage between Lady Catherine Wendell and the 6th Earl of Carnavon. A continuation of the real events at Highclere Castle into the next generation. Lady Catherine was born in Maine, USA and was a descendant of famous American families (related on her mother's side to Robert E. Lee and distantly, George Washington). Although Lady Catherine's father was descended from a wealthy Dutch-American industrialist family, a bad investment bankrupted him. Her father tried to start a career as an actor but eventually stress weakened his health and he died in his early forties. Lady Catherine's mother was left with no resources and four children. Fortunately, she had a childless cousin who had married into an upper-middle-class British family. Lady Catherine's mother moved to England with her children and was taken in with open arms by her cousin. Lady Catherine was 10 when she arrived in England. Her family was able to thrive within the upper-classes in England which they would have been unable to do in America after her father's death. Lady Catherine was a lifelong friend of Prince George, Duke of Kent, who she knew even before she met her future husband, 6th Earl of Carnavon. Lady Catherine's son, the eventual 7th Earl of Carnavon (who served in World War II) was a close childhood friend of Queen Elizabeth and later was appointed her Royal Racing Manager:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/14/sports/earl-of-carnarvon-77-royal-racing-manager.html

    In reading the books by the present Countess of Carnavon, its interesting to see how Fellowes developed fictional characters and events inspired by some of these true stories. The real stories, particularly about the utter grief and despair so many British families faced during World War I (and later World War II) are brought to life in the books in a more resonant and in-depth way. It's apparent though that Fellowes is brilliant in how he has been able to capture the essence of some of the broad historical events through fashioning uniquely different yet equally compelling characters that give us a glimpse into the rich history of Edwardian England.

    Actually, the real stories could be made into an even more compelling miniseries.

    For current series afcionados, there's also a recent picture book with text entitled: Backstage at Downton Abbey
     
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    I read Lady Almina and agree that it's a great read. I had forgotten that there was a second book, so that will be added to the "to read" pile.
     
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    *twitch* Unless she's somehow descended from his siblings, she's not. If she was a Lee, she's related to Washington's stepchildren, the Custises. (Robert E. Lee married Washington's "granddaughter", Mary Custis, but Washington had no biological offspring.)
     
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    ^^ Thanks for that clarification. Genealogy can be mighty complicated and confusing, and that's no lie. I was speaking from having seen the admittedly sparse genealogical chart in the Lady Catherine book by The Countess of Carnavon. It was unclear re the possible very distant relationship to George Washington. Apparently, according to the chart, there are two indirect connections to George Washington through Lady Catherine's mother. In any case, Lady Catherine's maternal relationship to Robert E. Lee is unquestionable, despite his not being a direct antecedent either.
     
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    NOTE: Apparently this film is not available in the US. :(
     
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    Series promo pic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvAMbvwIIAASGZL.jpg
     
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    Aw, I miss little Sybbie's curly locks, but she's cute. My gosh, little George really looks like Dan Stevens!!
     
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    A few new pix here.

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    Screen star: Penelope Wilton as Isobel Crawley in the fifth series of the hit show

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/14/article-0-208600E000000578-131_634x538.jpg

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    Oops, the Earl of Grantham won't be happy! Plastic bottle gaffe ruins promo picture for fifth series of ITV's Downton Abbey
    By PETER LLOYD FOR MAILONLINE

    PUBLISHED: 10:40 EST, 14 August 2014 | UPDATED: 12:37 EST, 14 August 2014


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-series-ITVs-Downton-Abbey.html#ixzz3AOdgFvGs
     
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    I've already been spoiled by the Daily Mail. ....grrrr. I'm really going to have to get an IP blocker that works this year and watch it as it's aired online in the UK. I can't wait until January!
     
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    I've always admired and appreciated the effort at continuity for this show. Love that Matthew's son looks like him. Most TV kids hardly look like their TV parents. I don't think producers pay any attention to that detail.
     
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    I like the show but find it has taken a bit of a harsher tone lately.
     
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    I think she will wise up and dump him soon.
     
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    [QUOTE="jakemantheman, post: 4309871, member: 50887"]I like the show but find it has taken a bit of a harsher tone lately.[/QUOTE

    How so? Unless like me you dislike the 1920's as a time period. Morals became looser and boundaries were pushed against. I'm curious how the show handles this because I truly don't like to read or watch anything based on the 1920's.