Davis & White #18: I Could've Danced All 1001 Nights

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  1. shan

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    I love all the pictures and video clips. What a great blog post. :)
  2. mia joy

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    OMG those Halloween photos are beyond adorable!
  3. Jiazumi

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    Exactly. That's why I said he would make a good Slender Man..Just stand there and blend in with the trees aka other PC people.
  4. shan

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    They are too cute! And I love the flashback picture of Meryl as Pippi Longstocking. :)
  5. E.A. Week

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    After watching the top 4 short dances at Cup of China, I went back and watched MC's SKAM SD. They are so far ahead of the other teams it's not even funny. If they were at COC, they'd probably be in the lead by about 15-20 points. The teams at CoC were leaving points all over the table. I thought BS just looked really awkward in their basic skating--they look like they're kind of leaning and lunging toward each other. Not sure if that's a problem with their technique or just the choreography of this particular program, but I was not impressed. PB seem to have a nice program, but they also seem very slow (at least they did on the video I watched on my computer), and they got docked some serious GOE on their lift. Chock-Bates had some small errors that make me wonder about their prospects for making the US team. Aldridge and Eaton had a nice senior GP debut. They just need some time and seasoning.

    That said, I think the fight for the bronze medal at Sochi will be very interesting. Right now, I'd say WP would ordinarily have a really good shot, based on their SC performance, but I'm not sure if an all-North American podium will be "allowed" at the Games. :slinkaway

    Thoughts, anyone?
  6. E.A. Week

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    Aren't they? DJ looks to be some kind of schnauzer mix, and I'm wildly biased toward schnauzers, since I'm kind of the co-parent of one. Love, love, love! :)
  7. DORISPULASKI

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    The Kellogg's campaign with its Winter Olympians has started. For each "sharing" of links, Kelloggs will feed a child in need.

    Here's the youtube link to a too cute for words Meryl & Charlie video. I didn't know that they competed at and won LPIDC in whatever their initial group was the first year they teamed up. There's video of their first day skating.

    #GreatStartsMerylandCharlie

    Here's Charlie's tweet about it

    Here's where you can find the info on the Great Starts program

    http://www.kelloggs.com/en_US/teamusa.html#athletes

    For Meryl and Charlie's stuff, click on them.
  8. Jessiebanana

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    I'm going to start on a bright note by saying Nathalie and Madison looked so incredibly beautiful. I mean this is a pretty attractive group of ice dancers, but these two take the cake with hair and costumes and all.

    Now B/S...I don't even know where to start with these two. Watching them skate actually makes me angry, knowing that they're probably going to win bronze. They're tall and they should be working their lines, instead they have the worst carriage of all the top teams, and even many of the second tier teams. I can't even care about what's going on in their feet, all I can see is the poor execution in their upper bodies. I don't know if they need off ice dance training, can someone call Hough, or if they're weak in their basic skating skills and they have to spend to much of their focus on it...I don't know, it's just bad and it's not Olympic medal worthy. The twizzles, fail. No speed in that lift. They remind of singles skaters who are often described as flailing, iykwim. They don't skate with the quality ice dancers usually bring.

    C/B...yes they made mistakes and it's clear they disappointed the commentators, but I don't think they ruined their chances of making the Olympic team. For one I believe they made mistakes because they stepped up their level of difficulty, so they're having some growing pains. It was time and since I'm a bit biased, I do think they can rise to the challenge. Secondly, and this is quite unfortunate, I think the judges prefer them to H/D. Whether it's because of who their coach is or not, they have that advantage. I really hate this cause I do believe who ever skates best should win. In addition, H/D have had made major mistakes in both their grand prixs. It definitely sucked for them to have both SA and SC, it left no room to breathe or for improvement. I think if C/B skate better their next run out, they'll be in the lead.

    P/B I liked the performance. I liked their finnstep, it looked good to me, but their speed and depth of edge on the midline is killing it. I don't think they have the athlectism to really compete with this era. They seem bit slow and sloppy is some parts and history tells me they won't improve on that.

    As of right now W/P look the best for bronze. They have the best scores, by about 7 points, but a NA sweep in Russia probably won't happen. They'll give the bronze to C/P first, if giving it B/S proves to be controversial. Either way, I think the fair fight for bronze is between W/P and C/P. Nothing B/S have put out there makes me think their upward momentum is anything but politics. I don't even know where to put P/B, they're not scoring as well as W/P or C/P so far, but they're scoring a smidge better than the Shibs...something tells me that will be the story come the Olympics.
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  9. mia joy

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    ITA. B/S's lines and postures are so very terrible I actually have no idea what the heck they're doing among world's top teams. I quietly hope I/K will surpass them by the time of Russian nationals and become Russia's #1. If they do, ironically a no medal for Russia in dance is going to get more probable than with B/S being #1.
    I think I/K are a wonderful team, but it is not their time yet. Just wait for 2018, though, I am sure they will shine then.

    P/B are such a great team and I would love them to win that bronze. If they address their weaknesses, they might. They still have far superior skating skills to B/S and maybe even W/P. Yes, they did look sloppy this time, but they might eliminate it. And we're still to see their FD.

    yes, W/P scored big last week, but don't forget they were at home. C/L scored great too and they didn't have the home ice advantage, so everything is possible between these teams.
    Wanna see P/B's score against V/M and I/K when they are home.

    If anything can be said about the battle for bronze at this point is that it should be just as fascinating and probably even more exciting than the battle for gold.

    All in all, we're in for an AMAZING dance competition in Sochi. Probably the best of all Olys I've seen so far.

    You mean C/L, right?

    I would agree that if Russian teams are off the podium, they would rather give the bronze to any Europeans (C/L most likely, maybe P/B) than to W/P and let it be a North American sweep. But I've been wrong before.
  10. Jessiebanana

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    Whoops, yeah I meant C/L. How did I miss that through the entire post, too many abbreviations!

    I/K annoy me like no other. There was so much hype around them and they've been such a complete flop. It just doesn't seem like they train very hard. They're just really pretty people on the ice without a whole lot of substance in their skating. It's like whatever is going on in their personal life is taking precedence. It's not a lot of team's time right now, but the rising crop still seems to be trying, even if they don't quite hit the nail on the head...I don't get that feeling from them.

    I actually think Russia was caught off guard with dance. I don't think they thought they'd have to push for B/S is to be #1. I think they fully intended I/K to be their team after they gained some experience coming off of juniors. Russia won't let I/K surpass B/S because it would be even more obvious than it already is that a Russian is set for bronze. They can't propel them that many spots internationally without some WTFs...though B/S are a pretty big shock so maybe they can.

    I think the top teams skate pretty well no matter where they are, especially when you consider that P/B and C/L train in the US. I know home crowd support is a bolster, but I don't think it changes things that much for these guys. V/M and M/C light it up everywhere, so maybe I've just gotten used to that.
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    After watching CoC, I think it's safe to say that D/W and V/M only have each other to worry about.

    I'm concerned about Evan and Madison, though, they have a lot of work to do if they want to go to Sochi.
  12. DORISPULASKI

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    Re C&B, not as much work as that. They just have to fix the SD and add some speed & power to the FD. The CoC tech panel was just brutal on Finnstep levels with all the teams.
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    If I'm calculating the time difference correctly (big if), ice dance is going to be on at a fairly reasonable time next weekend. Figuring in the end of daylight saving, it looks like both the SD and FD will start around 10:00 PM EST on Friday and Saturday nights. Please correct me if I'm wrong. So much better than having to set an alarm for 3:30 AM.
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    http://web.icenetwork.com/schedule/2013/11/2013_nhk_trophy
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    Yay for watchable times! :)
  16. E.A. Week

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    Double joy for watchable times! I'll be away next weekend, but I'll be watching thanks to my trusty tablet. :)

    Doris, Jessiebanana, and mia joy, you all make great points about CoC. I hope CB can fix their levels by Nationals. I never thought I'd see the day when I said it's a pity the US "only" has 3 ice dance spots. :D I like some of the things HD do, but it would be a shame to leave Madison Chock at home for the Olympics. :)
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    Yes!

    No school next Friday and I get to watch the SD & FD at 9:00 instead of 3am!

    Double win!!
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    Awesome, but Silver medals...M/C were gold all season lol
  22. CassAgain

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    Too bad aluminum foil doesn't come in gold.
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    Definitely not. I think more "tweaking" can be done with the scores in dance, without public outrage, because most people can't see what is being scored. The mistakes and scoring in freeskating can be more easily spotted and compared, such as falls, underrotations, etc. I think there will still be a Russian team on the podium.
  26. Antiloquy

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    Totally irrelevant to the conversation, but I'm a nut for dog breeds and DJ is a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel/Bichon Frise mix. I think Meryl's family owns that large, black Portugese Water Dog whose name I don't know. DJ's just the cutest. :dog:
  27. Kaffeine

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    Less than a week until NHK :kickass::respec::cheer2::cheer2:
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    Can't wait! :cheer2: Compared to NHK, CoC's dance lineup was simply weak.

    Any costume ideas? I hope they totally keep the SA SD ones. They are already perfect and don't need any changes. If Meryl abandones the pink dress I will be utterly disappointed.

    As for FD, hope their colors match this time :lol: I've been thinking about it and I think Meryl's dress should be a little more delicate, more like the one from SLC. Someone said that SA one looked like it was strangling her and I have to admit, after watching it several times, I agree. Also wanna see more sparkle in her hair! Something more visible, that current headband is losing the battle against her hair :p

    Love both of Charlie's costumes, though :swoon:
  29. Kaffeine

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    I'm going to guess that if she has yet another FD dress, maybe it'll be violet/purple shade? She seems to be heading that way : first with the ice blue, then the teal..

    I hope the new SD end pose we saw at the Rockefeller rink is the same one we see at NHK. It was much more effective. I expect they spent more time working on getting those step sequences for both programs up to Level 4. I hope to see the upside-down lift more refined..it's getting there. Very excited :D
  30. shan

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    Do you think Meryl wearing the SLC SD dress means she might switch back to that dress for NHK?

    I can't wait for Friday at 10:05!!! :)
  31. Jessiebanana

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    Well Meryl wore the blue DF dress to mostly exhibition skates of their FD and it was never the official dress, so this might actually be a bad sign for it.
  32. E.A. Week

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    LOL, something about DJ's looks just says "schnauzer" to me, but I'm biased, so I see schnauzers everywhere. :D
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    Well, my guess was going to be Havanese.
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    Yeah, you're probably right. :) I actually don't mind the pink dress, so I'm okay with it.
  36. mia joy

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    The pink dress is a winner :cheer2: The more I watch their SD, the more I love it. Right now I'm the "wouldn't change a thing" stage.

    When do practices at NHK start? Can we count on some photos/videos? I'd think they have a strong fanbase in Japan, so I sure hope so.
  37. Jessiebanana

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    I don't care honestly, as long as she looks pretty. I think the pink is a little girly for Meryl's personality, so my instincts say she'll change it. I also think she might want to save her favorite for the Olympics. I wouldn't even be surprised if she wore different costumes for the team event, something previously seen.
  38. E.A. Week

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    I love the pink dress, too. I would have used a less shiny satin for the top, but other than that, it's beautiful. I wouldn't be surprised if Meryl goes through a few more costumes before the Olympics, though. I suspect she'll want costumes that will just "feel" right to her.

    For the free, I'd love to see the style of the SLC costume, but in a more vibrant color, like the teal blue in the SkAm costume. But again, it wouldn't surprise me if Meryl goes with something completely different by the time of the Olympics. I do hope she stays in the blue/ turquoise family, though, because they're such great colors on her, and she's worn a lot of red/ purple/ burgundy over the years. I like the idea of a softer color for the short and something really intense for the free. I do love Charlie in the purple, though I think there needs to be more turquoise accents on his costume and more purple accents on Meryl's, just to tie them together visually. Turquoise and dark purple are a terrific color combination. Add some gold accents, and you have a look that really compliments Scheherazade--rich, luxurious, royal.

    I'm dying for NHK photos/ videos/ practice reports, and it's only Tuesday! (LOL). I'm also tapping my fingers impatiently waiting for some MC cereal boxes. :D
  39. mia joy

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    that would actually make a lot of sense! can't change the programs, change the costumes ;)
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