Davis & White #15: The Polka Connection

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by chipso1, Dec 10, 2012.

  1. nlyoung

    nlyoung Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2002
    Messages:
    524
    In defense of PJ, V/M did receive one more L4 element than did D/W. This can be taken to mean that D/W lost it with "a mistake" as lost levels are extremely costly in dance and this difference accounts for the difference in their respective technical scores. The "errors" everyone talks about in V/M's FD were minor and not on elements, not to mention that most viewers wouldn't have noticed them at all if perfectionist Tessa herself hadn't made mention of them after their skate. Had D/W scored L4 on footwork as did their rivals the results might have been different.
  2. literaryfreak

    literaryfreak Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2008
    Messages:
    2,471
    Quite a few people noticed V/M's mistakes before she ever mentioned them. It was clear Worlds was not V/M's best performance of that FD.
  3. Jessiebanana

    Jessiebanana Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,476
    I'm referring to PJ. I'm only speaking about their careers as commentators.
  4. lauravvv

    lauravvv Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    1,363
    I noticed only one slight stumble by Scott, and that was not on an element, as nlyoung already wrote. Since then I have rewatched the performances very carefully at least several times, but I still haven't noticed any other mistake from them. Probably I have to rewatch once again, as it may be that there was something that I was not able to notice previously (as I am not an expert). What I did notice, though, that Meryl and Charlies edges in that particular performance were not as deep as usual (and not only in step sequences). Tessa and Scott's edges were deeper overall, so that might be one of the reasons why they received a higher mark for their skating skills despite Scott's slight stumble.
  5. literaryfreak

    literaryfreak Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2008
    Messages:
    2,471
    Tessa had a slip as well.
  6. lauravvv

    lauravvv Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    1,363
    I now rewatched their Worlds performance. I guess I had forgotten about it, or even sort of registered both of their slips as a one mistake in my head because they happened so close together, almost at the same time. I can also see how many people might even not have noticed those barely there stumbles without the slow motion playback, as they happened during the faster part of their FD, and it all went by so quickly. I agree that those slips should have influenced their SS, and P/E marks a bit, but certainly not by so much that they could loose the gold even after winning the SD by close to one and half points and with a higher technical mark in their FD. I didn't write this to start a new argument, especially in this thread, I just wrote my honest opinion. But if someone disagrees so strongly that they feel like they absolutely have to respond, please PM me instead of responding here.
  7. nlyoung

    nlyoung Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2002
    Messages:
    524
    I agree it wasn't their best performance. I pointed out the technical levels and scores only because of the indignation of some posters that PJ could imply that D/W's skate was anything but perfect. Both could have skated better. D/W lost a level and points as a result. The fact that V/M's slips were on non scoring elements was just luck.
  8. mollymgr

    mollymgr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2010
    Messages:
    1,202
  9. Whitneyskates

    Whitneyskates New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2012
    Messages:
    1,007
    Their Phantom/Bollywood costumes stayed the same throughout the 09/10 season.
  10. mollymgr

    mollymgr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2010
    Messages:
    1,202
    Oh yeah, that's right.

    I loved this polka costume too :)
  11. circuscandy

    circuscandy New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Messages:
    567
    Team Canton has been costume stable all year long. I think that must be a record! (Now watch all three teams randomly swap costumes at Worlds. :lol:)

    I looove Meryl's purple SD dress. I also really loved the peachy one, but jewel tones really help keep her from washing out. Charlie looks fabulous in a cravat. He was channeling some glorious Regency flair that year. Paging Colin Firth as Darcy!
  12. mollymgr

    mollymgr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2010
    Messages:
    1,202
    I agree, the light peach was the second best one that year IMO. I'm expecting the same costumes for Worlds because they have been quite fabulous. But with MerylÂ…who knows :)
  13. Cachoo

    Cachoo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2010
    Messages:
    2,414
    Yep I wish we could have seen that one more. It is not only beautiful but so put together from head to toe.
  14. suki

    suki New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2006
    Messages:
    90
    Is there any truth to the rumor that Marie Bowness of Canada
    willbe the techncial caller for ice dancing this year at worlds? Wasn't she the tech caller last year as well? Thetechncial caller is the one who decides the levels, correct?

    I guess it pays to have a powerful skating federation at the ISU:slinkaway
  15. sap5

    sap5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2006
    Messages:
    7,915
    I think she was already tech caller for this season's GPF, so I don't believe she can be the caller for Worlds. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...
  16. DORISPULASKI

    DORISPULASKI Watching submarine races

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2002
    Messages:
    9,880
    I heard that, but wonder whether it can be true. The source is a usually reliable source. She said Judy Blumberg would be the Asst. Tech. Specialist, which makes sense, since I don't think she's done a major event this year? She did not say who would be the tech controller.
  17. mollymgr

    mollymgr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2010
    Messages:
    1,202
    Does the ISU specify how many events one can judge?


    The online version of the Skating Magazine issue from last month is now available.
  18. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

    Joined:
    May 27, 2002
    Messages:
    30,005
    The Professional Skaters Association (PSA) announced the 2013 U.S. Nationals winners of their EDI Awards for Best Performance on March 4.

    From the PSA's Facebook page:
  19. leafygreens

    leafygreens Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2009
    Messages:
    1,648
    :rofl::rofl:

    If she had anything nice to say about the Shibs it's because they aren't threats to V/M. Throw a nice comment in about any non-D/W American team and it makes up for talking trash about D/W.
  20. volunteer

    volunteer Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2013
    Messages:
    176
    Why do you think she has to "make up" for what you call trash talk about DW? She stated her opinion, glad to know you can interpret her intentions.
  21. DORISPULASKI

    DORISPULASKI Watching submarine races

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2002
    Messages:
    9,880
    It isn't necessary, but it's often done in skating. It's not done in ice hockey, for example. Or football.

    People throw in a nice comment about a person unlikely to win,place or show, from another club/city/country/state to make it seem like they are not a blatant hometown rooter; to give themselves more credibility.
  22. ~tapdancer~

    ~tapdancer~ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2006
    Messages:
    5,083
    I remember listening to PJ back in 07 and 08 and she was usually quite complimentary towards D/W. Now that D/W have beaten V/M and more than once, the compliments aren't as forthcoming and the uber wars have escalated. It's all about being threatened. And the situation will not be improving with the Olympic season next year. For sure its time to put the armor on!

    ETA: Lately I've been thinking of us D/W fans as "teflon-coated". We've got to just let that crap slide right off us and enjoy our favorite team. D/W's skating and results speak for itself anyway. :)
    shan and (deleted member) like this.
  23. circuscandy

    circuscandy New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Messages:
    567
    Like water off the back of a duck~
    shan and (deleted member) like this.
  24. TanithandBenFan

    TanithandBenFan U.S. Ice Dance Junkie

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    5,829
  25. circuscandy

    circuscandy New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Messages:
    567
    Ahh thank you!!

    I've been found out! :rollin:
    tinypawsxxoo likes this.
  26. literaryfreak

    literaryfreak Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2008
    Messages:
    2,471
    It's beautiful! Meryl's hair is the star of it for me. :swoon:
  27. TanithandBenFan

    TanithandBenFan U.S. Ice Dance Junkie

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    5,829
    Oh, that's so cool! I didn't even notice the circus theme! *doh* Your work is so beautiful!
  28. CassAgain

    CassAgain Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Messages:
    805
    It's beautiful--I pinned it before I knew the connection.
  29. Cachoo

    Cachoo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2010
    Messages:
    2,414
    So what is it like to have talent? Truly gorgeous circuscandy!
  30. circuscandy

    circuscandy New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Messages:
    567
    Thanks so much!! I just love drawing Meryl. She has the perfect face for it and I get wildly carried away when I reach her hair. :lol: I want to do one for Giselle, as well. I did something for DF last year. (Sometimes I think of going back and drawing something for every FD.)
  31. sap5

    sap5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2006
    Messages:
    7,915
    I want to know more about Meryl's haircare routine. ;) Which products, which appliances, how she deals with humidity, anything and everything! I'd like to imagine if I just follow what she does, my hair will be just as fab -- although I know that will never happen. :lol:
  32. circuscandy

    circuscandy New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Messages:
    567
    So do I. Her hair is truly one of the wonders of the world.
  33. Bournekraatzfan

    Bournekraatzfan New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2005
    Messages:
    1,748
    me too! I would love to see an interview about this. Her hair is always so beautiful. Meryl is just so stunning.

    welcome volunteer and other newbies! I hope you enjoy the board:)

    Wishing Meryl and Charlie and all the skaters a wonderful time at worlds!

    eta: thanks for the link, TaBFan. circuscandy, your work is lovely!
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2013
  34. DORISPULASKI

    DORISPULASKI Watching submarine races

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2002
    Messages:
    9,880
    circuscandy, Amazing work! I hope you'll link some of other other drawings of Meryl & Charlie :respec: :respec:
  35. shan

    shan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2003
    Messages:
    16,721
    Yes please!! :D
  36. lmarie086

    lmarie086 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2008
    Messages:
    3,019
    circuscandy, you are wildly talented! I hope you do go back and do every FD! That would be a treat to see :)

    Add me to those who want Meryl's hair secrets. I swear, she needs to do a Pantene commercial or something. Anything related to hair-she's a spokesperson waiting to be found.
  37. Bournekraatzfan

    Bournekraatzfan New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2005
    Messages:
    1,748
    Yes, please! I hope Meryl and Charlie get to see your beautiful work, circuscandy. I am sure it would mean so much to them. Just gorgeous.
  38. Jessiebanana

    Jessiebanana Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,476
    Lol Brilliant!
  39. Piper

    Piper Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2012
    Messages:
    148

    They do. :)
  40. DORISPULASKI

    DORISPULASKI Watching submarine races

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2002
    Messages:
    9,880
    I hope no one boos them in London. Or if some do boo them, that they are drowned out by cheers.
    euterpe and (deleted member) like this.