Cruise Ship Strikes Rock off Italian Coast; 3 dead, 70 missing.

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  1. Rex

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  2. floskate

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    In all my years of working on cruise liners, I never remember delaying the first boat drill for passengers. This has to be carried out in a certain timeframe by maritime law and all ours were either before sailing or within an hour of sailing. It was NEVER delayed. :eek: Costa have never had the best reputation for safety within the industry but this is really shocking in this day and age. Thank goodness they were so close to land otherwise it would have been catastrophic. :(
  3. Skittl1321

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    Very scary :(
  4. skatesindreams

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    There were reports of people jumping into the water in panic.
    I hope that they can accurately account for all those onboard.
  5. Rex

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    Isn't a ship supposed to conduct the boat drill within a certain amount of time after its departure from a port?
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    They've just said on the evening news that the missing are now 40.
  7. pingu

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    Some passengers said it was supposed to be done today
  8. skipaway

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    I heard on CNN that the safety drill, on board that ship, is supposed to be conducted within 24 hours of leaving port. I think the ship was within that time period and the safety drill had yet to be done.
  9. floskate

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    That sounds about right but as I already said, practically every other line does them immediately prior to, or just after departure. You cannot guarantee that nothing will happen on the first night at sea and the company has a responsibility to ensure that passengers know what to do in such an eventuality. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see that timeframe significantly narrowed as a result of this.
  10. Parsley Sage

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    I was reading on a Cruise board that while a few passengers had boarded in Civitavecchia on Friday, most passengers would either be getting on or off in Savona on Saturday and that is why they were doing the muster drill on Saturday.

    The newsticker on CBC Newsworld is saying that the captain has been charged with manslaughter and abandoning ship.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/01/14/cruise-italy.html
  11. Rex

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    The cruises I've been on, they had the boat drill 2-3 hours after leaving port.
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    Carnival---it seems I've heard that name before when it comes to big problems/ accidents/ tragedies associated with cruises (ABC said the ship was booked with Carnival customers.)
  13. Rex

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    Carnival owns Costa, as well as Cunard, Holland America, Princess, P&O, Seabourn, as well as AIDA.

    I saw on ABC News tonight that the captain has been arrested. (This story confirms it).

    Allegedly the captain left the ship before some of the passengers and other crew members!
  14. nubka

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    They keep mentioning the Titanic, but in most ways I think it's a lot more similar to the listing/evacuation/sinking of the Italian liner, Andrea Doria. :( :(
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    The articles are really interesting - I know people in NYC with all of the same last names as the people quoted.
  16. Rex

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    I do remember reading some of the cruise forums where old-timers predicted that one of the megaships would meet a nasty end.

    The gash is very nasty - I mean, bit of boulder is actually imbedded in the hull!
  17. HeatherC

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    I saw the ship images first thing this morning when I had just woken up and I actually sat up in my bed thinking I couldn't be seeing that sideways ship right while laying down. It looked horrible and I'm glad the casualties weren't worse. Thoughts and prayers to all the survivors and to the families of those still missing. :(

    Shame on that captain for abandoning his ship. :revenge: :eek:
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    This night, 24h after the disaster, three missing people were founded, it seems that they are in good condition.
    Now there are still 38 missing.
  19. Ozzisk8tr

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    Dreadful tragedy. Oh, Titanic was only 45,000 ton this ship in the article was 110,000 ton, Oasis of the Seas is 225,000 ton.
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    From CNN: At least two more bodies have been found aboard the Costa Concordia, the Italian news agency ANSA reports.

    Some of those missing have been found safe, ashore, also.
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    What a nightmare! I am so sorry for the loss of life and those still missing, as also for the survivors who will likely get nightmares for a long time to come.:(
  23. Rex

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    I so hope that they can get the fuel off the ship before it starts to leak.
  24. Southpaw

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    Oh, lordy. The captain overrode the programmed route and scooted the ship past the island so that the head waiter could wave to his parents who live there. The word "hubris" doesn't nearly cover the depth of this folly.
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    ^^^
    Beyond belief!
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    Bet he's feeling like the world's biggest idiot right about now.
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    And no wonder the captain ran after doing that, he reacted like a kid who clobbered a baseball through a neighbor's window. Seriously, I'm sitting here with my jaw hanging open after reading that. Good thing it's really cold out or I'd be getting a throat full of flies right now. What a total fckng IDIOT. How do you say "total fkng idiot" in Italian??
  28. Rex

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    I feel so bad for the poor old couple whose bodies they found near the restaurant. I cringe when folks compare this to the Titanic disaster, but this does sorta remind me of the Strauses, the old couple who chose to die together rather than be separated.

    This captain should do jail time. In his defense, he did try to beach the ship, but he never should have sailed so close to land like that. There are still millions of uncharted rocks on the coasts worldwide - he should have known that.
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    I agree that this is nothing like the Titanic. This act of supreme jackassery of the highest order has more in common with Steve Irwin playing with a stingray than a ship meeting a wayward iceberg in the North Atlantic.
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    :wall: :wall: :wall:

    There's not enough walls to knock my head onto for that one. :wall:
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    I thought it was just a rumor, but it seems to be true. Wow. Disasters and human errors happen, but that was flat-out arrogance and stupidity.

    I read they came 300 yards from the island's coast while they were supposed to be at least 4 miles away.

    Is that true? If so, it's good to know.

    One of the people I pity the most are the rescuers. Those divers who have to look for bodies? I could not do that job.
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    I'm sure the head waiter that asked the favor of the captain must also be feeling stupid right now. I'm sure both of their brains are going "What if?"
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    I'm still sitting here with my mouth gaping open thinking about the exchange between the Captain and the Head Waiter and in my mind I see a scene right out of "Night at the Opera" with Groucho as the Head Waiter and Chico as the Captain. Because THAT'S how ridiculous this is to me. It's so preposterous that it's like something right out of a freaking Marx Brothers movie.
  34. galaxygirl

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    Apparently, the head waiter didn't ask for or know about the detour. I don't have a link but I either read it on a link provided in this thread or CNN.
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    The Herald Sun said the waiter's sister claimed on Facebook (of course :p ) she was told that the ship was "going to pass really close", and was sending "a big hello to my brother."

    The article also claims the waiter didn't request the detour. :( He must be ridden with guilt, although it's not his fault directly.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/wo...nic-role-captain/story-e6frf7lf-1226245930161

    Even so, did everyone on the bridge think the detour toward a known rocky coast was a good idea?? :huh:

    And it also may turn out that the ship didn't call in a distress signal:

    If that's not behavior after a huge f*ckup, I don't know what is!

    http://gcaptain.com/cruise-line-blames-captain-costa/?37693
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    It's like when Bush ordered the troops to invade Irag. I'm sure many of the soldiers were like WTF but they felt they had to follow order from the top. Ok, that was perhaps an extreme example, but I'm sure the guy steering the ship was just carrying out order.

    Is there a co-captain on board? And a navigator also? If so, I'd like to know what sort of conversations they had when the captain decided to take the detour. In the olden days, there would've been a guy situated on the top mast keeping watch for protruding rocks, ice bergs, etc. I wonder if modern ships are equipped with some sort of sonar devices to detect such thing.

    Part of me do feel bad for the captain actually. He's probably good friend with the head waiter and wanted to do something special for him to show off to the family. I'm sure some of us had done things in the name of showing off that went awry. But the captain was in a position where he shouldn't have been goofing off, and his mistake caused great damages and cost human lives.
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    I've sent you a PM ;)
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    Grazie mille!
  40. Rex

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    Apparently it was two men they found together, not a man and woman. And I have no idea if they were a couple or not now. My bad.

    Five more bodies have been found, the total death toll is 11.