Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Jenna, Oct 10, 2011.
No "official" word yet, but the hearsay news isn't good.
OMG how awful.
Get well soon, please....
NJL (...just reading about it hurts.......)
Poor thing, sound very painful.
Oh, dear. Poor Courtney.
I hope youth will be on her side and that she'll bounce back quickly. I was really looking forward to seeing her progress this season.
We should wait for confirmation, but if alhrayth is correct about the break being below the knee, it is not her thigh bone, it's the tibia (shin bone). As I just posted in the Ladies thread, I broke my tibia (near the ankle) skating 2 years ago, so I know how Courtney must feel right now. Hopefully, she won't need surgery and will heal according to schedule. I was off the ice for 6 months, perhaps Courtney could go back a little sooner.
Sending lots of healing vibes to Courtney!
Ouch! She is young and hopefully will heal quickly!
Wishing her a speedy and full recovery.
Whatever the injury, I hope she takes time for it to heal completely before getting back on the ice.
All the best to her.
Oh, no! We just saw her a week ago @ Mike's show. Hope she takes the time to heal completely from this.
Major . I hate to say it, but I thought she was pushing way too hard this season with quads, combinations ending in triple loop, and really tricky footwork in and out of jumps. It was very exciting to watch but I wonder if it was too much all at once.
Best wishes for a quick and full recovery.
Really tough if she's injured like that away from home. I hope one of her parents was at the competition with her, though I'm sure the team leader and other team adults are very supportive.
Poor Kid. It will seem like the end of the world for her at the moment.
Went through a similar injury with one of my kids, took 7 months to get back on the ice, it's a long haul.
Hopefully she has good strong support to help her get well and fit as she is an amazing young lady to watch!
But she wasn't trying quads when this happened. I know a skater who broke her leg doing a three turn ... I hope her recovery is non eventful and she is back next season. I also hopes she continues to push the technical envelope.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery Courtney!
I cannot imagine the pain.
Poor thing. I hope she has a speedy and complete recovery.
Wow. I imagine we'll hear something somewhat official in the next week or so if she is out for the season or not. I wish her a complete recovery.
Regardless, can you imagine flying home so soon with such an injury? That's a really long set of flights back home to CA, with no real opportunity for comfort all of those hours.
I've seen many people on crutches, in hard casts, soft casts, walking casts, in wheel chairs, etc. fly... but is it even advised/permitted to fly within just a couple of days of a serious bone fracture (assuming that's the actual injury)?
I'm one of those. I'd had falls that were a lot harder than that - I just got off-balance during an RBO 3-turn, left foot came down as I fell, left toepick got stuck in the ice, and I ended up falling on my left leg as it twisted around underneath me. I was skating pretty slow into the turn, it was just the way I fell. My type of tibia fracture (spiral) is caused by a violent twisting motion. There's really nothing anyone can do to decrease their risk (well, except not play sports, but you could also have a car accident, or fall in your house....). I did work with my PT (who is also a skating coach) and my coach on the correct way to fall - I tend to stiffen up and try to keep from falling, when I should be bending my knees and just sitting down - it's possible my gut reaction right after the turn made things worse, so I am making a conscious effort to react differently now.
I can't imagine it, either. Hopefully, she can get an aisle seat (maybe they could even get her in first or business class) and be able to keep her leg elevated. There is always a clot risk, but Courtney is young and in top physical condition, so she is probably less at risk than average. Hopefully, she's got some good painkillers, too.
Poor girl!! Yes, I have broken BOTH ankles (once the tibia & fibula, once just the fib) doing a whole lotta nothing. Stuff like this can be a total fluke (although of course there are various conditions that can make a person more fracture prone), and it really, really SUCKS. I hope she can recover soon and get some good PT to help get the strength back.
How awful Debbie, I'm in pain just thinking about it. The first thing I learned when I skated was how to fall. You transfer the momentum across the ice as opposed to straight down, and make sure both your feet go up. I took so many bad looking falls where I went maybe 15 feet across the ice on my butt or back or side, but never broke a bone.
I really hope she has a speedy recovery, but I wonder how this will affect her in the future. She's still going to be picking that right leg in for flips and lutzes, and now with a weakened bone after the fracture heals, I wouldn't be doing too many of those again. She has such a wondeful flip too, I'm surprised it happened on that jump.
Aww, poor thing! That's terrible! Hope she takes adequate time to rest and bounces back soon! I guess this means no nationals or world/junior worlds for her this season tho
There's no reason why her bone wouldn't be just as strong after it heals as it was before it was broken, esp given Courtney's age and physical condition. In my experience, the biggest hurdle is mental, but Courtney is a much better skater (and more confident) than I am, so I'm optimistic she'll be fine.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery Courtney. How unfortunate.
Best wishes to Courtney. I was very impressed with her performance in Brisbane a few weeks ago. Courtney has a great future.
Sad to hear this. I hope she recovers soon and comes back strong next season.
Heard from a reliable source in the SoCal skating community that Courtney "has to have surgery she broke her tibia close to the knee".
This one of the toughest parts of the sport and something that skating parents fear; a major injury to your child.
Best wishes to Courtney for a successful surgery (if needed) and a speedy recovery. We all hope to see her back on the ice soon!
Oh no! I think if it's close to the knee (or ankle) they put in a plate and not a rod, so that should at least avoid her knee. Actually, a friend of my mom's broke her tibia close to the knee skiing and had a couple screws, no other hardware. Hopefully, Courtney won't need anything extensive and will be able to skate as soon as the bone heals.
Sending virtual hugs and vibes for speedy healing!
Don't they even say that the part where the bone once broke is unlikely to ever break again? (unless it's a stress fracture when you start training again too early)
She broke it on the takeoff?? I've never heard of such a thing. Poor girl!
Once a broken bone heals, it is stronger than it was before. Of course, it can always break again if the forces are just right, but it's going to take more force than the first time.
Although I had a friend who had a broken collarbone and they put a plate in to help hold it in place while it healed. He didn't get the plate taken out and then had a similar fall to the first one and this time the bone snapped right along the edge of the plate.
So it's going to depend on the exact break and how it is treated...
I have a friend who fell and broke her arm (upper humerus) earlier this summer and they put in a rod. It was nearly healed, and she fell again and it snapped along the bottom edge of the rod just above her elbow.
There is a lot of torque generated on a lutz takeoff.
OK, these stories are not what I needed to hear, lol.
I have read that plates sometimes cause stress to the area of the bone at each end of the plate - metal handles force differently than bone - so I guess if there is enough force, there could be a break at that point.
I guess if a bone isn't healed, there is a risk of refracture even with hardware, but yikes, that has to be awful for your friend, Rob. I hope she's doing OK.
I ran the bone-will-never-break-again theory by my ortho at one point and he said that there is always a chance that a bone could break, if there's enough force/torque. He did say that the rod and screws would prevent my tibia from breaking again (of course, the fibula could break....) and advises people to keep it in, but I was having a lot of discomfort both walking and skating, and given that I'm fairly young, and active, I didn't want to deal with that the rest of my life, so I got it all removed.
And I sure hope I never, ever, ever break a bone again.
Oh no. Sending Courtney a million virtual hugs.
So sad! I was looking on YouTube for the video of her freeskate and no wonder I couldn't find it. Hopefully she makes a full recovery, she's an amazing skater!
Does anyone have a video of this? I'd still like to see it.
Fortunately the ISU had the good sense not to upload the beginning of Courtney's FS in Milan.
Best wishes to Courtney for a complete recovery! As I posted in another thread, even if her season is over, her JGP gold medal in Australia should qualify her to be placed in the Team C funding envelope next season at least.
How awful! My best wishes and prayers go out to Courtney for a full recovery.
Oh, so it wasn't the lutz but the flip. Even w/o the counter-rotation, I imagine there is still a lot of torque involved.
Four months is actually a pretty good recovery time. Best wishes to Courtney for a speedy recovery. I hope she next season!
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