Confirmed: Daisuke Takahashi will be coached by Nikolai Morozov again

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, Jun 15, 2012.

  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

    Joined:
    May 27, 2002
    Messages:
    30,197
    Posted today in the Japanese skating news thread - confirmation of the news in the Japanese media:
    itsartemis posted this Russian article link yesterday in which Morozov was quoted as saying he will be coaching Takahashi again: http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20120614/601084215.html

    Posted in the Russian skating news thread:
    ETA link to new article: http://www.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120615&content_id=33344752&vkey=ice_news
    (This article link shows up in post #43 of this thread: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3595715&postcount=43 )
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2012
  2. Libertango

    Libertango New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2006
    Messages:
    623
    Why :drama: ? I wonder how it will work out with Florent.
  3. chika3

    chika3 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2008
    Messages:
    32
  4. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2002
    Messages:
    20,569
    So much for Russian coaches not being able to work with foreign students.

    I guess Morozov is special and those restrictions don't apply to him. :p

    Or maybe the fact that he only consults Amodio and Morozov (who retain their primary coaches) means he can get round that.
  5. Andrey aka Pushkin

    Andrey aka Pushkin Brezina's Nemesis

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2001
    Messages:
    15,821
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    meggonzo, smurfy, flutzilla1 and 3 others like this.
  6. Badams

    Badams Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2002
    Messages:
    4,912
  7. love_skate2011

    love_skate2011 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2011
    Messages:
    1,476
    :yikes: :scream:

    consolidation when Miki left
  8. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2003
    Messages:
    30,183
    there is serious death in my soul :wuzrobbed
  9. beepbeep

    beepbeep Resident Rude Brazilian

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    3,270
    Oh dear, why? Whyyyyyyyy???
  10. Zemgirl

    Zemgirl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2009
    Messages:
    4,878
    What Andrey said.

    And yes, I think this does not bode well for Florent Amodio. In fact, I'm not sure who it does bode well for. Hanyu? Chan?
  11. 4STh

    4STh New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2011
    Messages:
    5
    Some quotes from a japanese article (http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/f-sp-tp0-20120615-968059.html):

    Takahashi have Morozov as one of his coaches as an adviser.
    Morozov approached him before this year's world championships.

    Takahashi said:
    I have only two years before the Sochi Olympics.
    I have hesitated over accepting his offer but I decided because I think he will offer me good advice for the Olympics.

    Morozov said:
    Daisuke was my favorite skater I have ever trained.
    I felt sorry about the way I split with Daisuke and I have many regrets.
    In the past he was one of the great skaters but he is now memorable.
    I am no match for him without my improvement.
  12. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

    Joined:
    May 9, 2002
    Messages:
    11,250
    But it doesn't automatically mean he has to use Morosov for choreography right?

    His students typically get consistency and undeservedly high PCS so this might just be what he needs to beat Chan.
  13. love_skate2011

    love_skate2011 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2011
    Messages:
    1,476
    aww so sweet of Morozov :rofl: :slinkaway
  14. manleywoman

    manleywoman podcast mistress

    Joined:
    May 8, 2003
    Messages:
    7,827
    Me too. Ugh.
  15. DaiKozOda

    DaiKozOda Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2011
    Messages:
    522
    I'm a huge huge fan of Takahashi and I'm really curious about how it will turn out to him. Maybe people are overreacting a bit. Morozov is known for bringing the best out of his students. He makes them feel more confident and eventually that shows on their skating and improves their overall results.
    I am aware that Morozov is not one of the most popular guys over here but he sure knows how to turn skaters into winners.
    Off course that Daisuke is already a winner but maybe Morozov will work things in order to highlight Daisuke's qualities even more.
  16. 4STh

    4STh New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2011
    Messages:
    5
    Quotes from another japanese article:
    http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2012/06/15/kiji/K20120615003475620.html

    Morozov said: I would like him to win the gold medal at the Olympics, the only thing missing for him.

    http://www.asahi.com/sports/update/0615/TKY201206150654.html
    Takahashi said: I have hesitated over Morozov's offer, but I decided to put myself into a tough environment.
    Morozov said: He must be go down in the history of figure skating. I'd like to provide help to him with my full effort so that he will win the Olympic medal.
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2012
  17. Sparks

    Sparks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2002
    Messages:
    7,168
    I do enjoy Morosov eating crow...
  18. itsartemis

    itsartemis Enjoy your doron, Daisuke!

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2006
    Messages:
    2,232
    I did not see this coming at all. I just really really hope he won't be doing Morozov choreography for his programs. Dai has been nothing but original since he started working with Camerlengo and other choreographers. Does this mean we won't see Dai do any of Kenji's choreography again? I wish the articles said something about choreo.

    Sigh, I think I'm just going to find a corner and :wuzrobbed now.
  19. t.mann

    t.mann New Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Messages:
    256
    Dai himself's decision(after all) and Morozov's drive for Dai OG and his role as advisor(just?) all look a little weird. lol
  20. ice9

    ice9 Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2002
    Messages:
    730
    Hmm, so, doesn't Morozov want Plush to win OGM? :lol:

    But then again, he already coached Arakawa to win OGM over Slutskaya so it's not a big deal for him it seems. ;)
  21. l'etoile

    l'etoile New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2010
    Messages:
    4,891
    OMG I totally forgot about Florent. Is he still under Morozov's tutelage?
  22. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

    Joined:
    May 27, 2002
    Messages:
    30,197
    Yes, according to this link that was posted in the Russian skating news thread yesterday:
    ETA: Is Morozov's role clearly stated in the Japanese articles as being Takahashi's primary coach or an advisor? Does this mean Utako Nagamitsu will continue to coach him and we should expect to see her in the Kiss and Cry?
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2012
  23. LadyNit

    LadyNit moving right along Staff Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2002
    Messages:
    7,037
    Who wouldn't want to coach the most brilliant skater in the world?

    If Morozov brings something to the table that Dai wants, no objections from me.
    Meredith and (deleted member) like this.
  24. love_skate2011

    love_skate2011 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2011
    Messages:
    1,476
    :sekret:
    maybe its some sort of plot against Dais chances for 2014, lol
  25. morqet

    morqet Active Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2010
    Messages:
    947
    Technically yes, he's joint coached by Morozov and Bernard Glesser, but as far as I know, he was only in NJ with Morozov's group for a week this summer, and has been in France since he finished AOI Shanghai. It'll be really interesting to see how this all shakes out.
  26. ChelleC

    ChelleC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2002
    Messages:
    4,437
    Sums up my feelings so well. :sigh:
  27. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2011
    Messages:
    3,541
    My recollection may be faulty, but I think that when Morozov moved back to Russia, there was something posted here to the effect that he said that not only could he keep his existing foreign students but that the door was left open to coaching others.

    Also, according to the smatterings of Leonova's blog posted elsewhere on this board, he is in New Jersey at the moment. Maybe he's planning on staying there.
  28. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

    Joined:
    May 27, 2002
    Messages:
    30,197
  29. taf2002

    taf2002 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2003
    Messages:
    13,834
    I want Dai to win the OGM so whatever it takes....as long as Oily Nicky doesn't touch him. If there is fondling in the K&C I suggest a bunch of FSU get together & :lynch:.
  30. Moka-Ananas

    Moka-Ananas Man's Ruin

    Joined:
    May 1, 2010
    Messages:
    4,220
  31. vexlak

    vexlak Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2012
    Messages:
    104
    I am confused a bid. Many of you here do not like Morozov?
    OK, personality aside, he is one of the most consistent medal earner. Frankly what ever he does or choreograph is amazing and it surely works. I saw him work and he is very dedicated, creative and very detail oriented. Daisuki was great under Morozov.
    Good luck to both of them.
  32. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2002
    Messages:
    20,569
    Because his choreography is usually terrible.

    Having said that, he is great with making his skaters consistent and comfortable. At the expense of having any choreography. :p

    I don't know what to think about this. Swan Lake (Hip Hop Version) was a super voidy program so if Takahashi gets more of that, why not.

    Although Miyamoto's and Camerlengo's programs for him worked extremely well so I was hoping for more of that.
  33. ice9

    ice9 Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2002
    Messages:
    730
    I'm :confused: at why many people assume Morozov will choreograph Takahashi's programs. The article only say he will act as an "advisor" in Takahashi's coaching team, and there is no mention of choreo. Nagamitsu will still be coaching.
  34. Jenna

    Jenna Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Messages:
    7,139
  35. Emdee

    Emdee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    1,544
    Maybe we will be now be able to see Dai's 'pirate' side!
  36. Southpaw

    Southpaw Saint Smugpawski

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2008
    Messages:
    11,967
    These two are like Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor.
  37. 4STh

    4STh New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2011
    Messages:
    5
    I've just remembered this article:
    http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120525&content_id=32207752&vkey=ice_news
    I don't know whether Nichol and Takahashi have finished his choreo or not, but I won't be surprised if Morozov will NOT choreograph Takahashi's program, esp. for this season.

    Sorry for inaccurate descriptions.
    Some articles says Morozov will form part of Takahashi's coaching team (including his longtime coach Nagako Utamitsu and Takeshi Honda for jumps) as an adviser. But other articles says Morozov will be one of his coaches...
    Maybe the writer was insensitive to the difference between their roles in a "team."

    Anyway, it is not mentioned where he will train or who he will normally train with in the articles.
  38. Willowway

    Willowway Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2002
    Messages:
    1,612
    Morozov left NJ (and Ice House) and moved to Russia several years ago.

    However - and I heard this just this morning at the rink - Morozov will be teaching a 7-week summer session in Danbury, CT...or so the folks I know had heard. Very standard for elite coaches to go "elsewhere" for the summer - perhaps Connecticut is "elsewhere" for Nikolai this year.
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2012
  39. analia

    analia Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    135
    Somehow I think Lori Nichol is a worse idea than Morozov.
    I believe Daisuke and Morozov had a love/hate relationship and complicated feelings toward each other. I remember reading an interview in which Daisuke said if he could speak English better, the first person he wants to talk skating with is Morozov.
  40. arakwafan2006

    arakwafan2006 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2009
    Messages:
    696
    :eek::eek::eek::confused::confused::eek::eek:

    This off season has been just... i dont even know what to say. Next thing you know, Michelle Kwan will be returning to Olympic eligible competition or something...