Coaching change for Florent Amodio

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  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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  2. joeperryfan

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    Agh, I almost beat you to post this! :lol:

    Frankly when I read about this I wondered if it was April's fools again!
  3. joeperryfan

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    Sorry, double post.
  4. morqet

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    Article summary

    - Amodio still has huge respect for Morozov, but he felt when he went to the US this year that it was no longer working
    - He has been working in Lyon for the last 3 weeks on his free skate to La Vie en Rose
    - He's temporarily working with Katia Krier (coach of Brian Joubert) says it has been working very well, having success even with quad toes
    - He knows he needs to find a new permanent coach, has had several meetings with Didier G. about it. He had almost come to an arrangement with Alexei Yagudin (has worked with him the last 2 summers) but believes that Morozov has scuppered that option.

    I guess if he didn't go straight back to Bernard Glesser he'll be looking outside France, perhaps back to Switzerland after working with Lambiel earlier this summer? Whatever happens I'm glad he's moving and hope that he'll go back to producing wonderful programs like in his last Olympic season :cheer:
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  5. Zemgirl

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    I just saw this linked elsewhere. I'm pleased that Amodio has finally left Morozov, who helped him become more consistent but also managed to make him consistently unappealing. OTOH, it can't be good for him to be going into an Olympic year with his coaching situation so unsettled... I hope he can find someone who'll help him realize his potential.

    Does anyone know who his choreographer is for this season?
  6. Jeschke

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    great, to see amodio skate to some great music like 'la vie en rose' and not another funny/sexy dance number.

    hope he finds another coach in time; with pupils running away of morozov he should have time to take miki back :p just joking
  7. kirkbiggestfan

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    Quick translation of the main points:
    *he hasn't had a coach in 1 month
    *things were not working with Morozov anymore, so it is a "divorce"
    *it happened when he joined Morosov in the US. It was supposed to be in Ny, then he went to LA and realized after 3 days that things were not working anymore
    *he still has a lot of respect for Morozov
    *He came back to Lyon and created his own FP: La Vie en Rose by L Armstrong
    *He then joined the French team in Vaujany and worked with Katia Krier. She did a great job and Florent even did 4T
    *He had meetings with Didier Gaillaiguet and almost found a new coach: Alexei Yagudin!!! But he thinks that Morozov made sure the deal did not happen.
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  8. morqet

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    He worked with Lambiel at the start of the summer on "program ideas", and then said he was going to finish off the programs with Morozov, but the article says he was only in the US for a very short time before deciding to leave, so I doubt Morozov will have done much more with him.
  9. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    I hope he gets settled in soon. I find it interesting that he was serious about Yags. I have only heard of Yags assisting other coaches, so I'm surprised that he would select him as a primary coach for the Olympic season.
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  11. Jaana

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    This is not a good time to change the coach, in my opinion. He should have done it latest in last summer.
  12. ioana

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    From what I've seen of Krier's students, they seem to have solid jumping technique and consistency so this should be a good move for him.
  13. ostile17

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    I say good riddance, but it's the worst time to change coach! He's such a beautiful skater, I would hate him to go to waste!
  14. kirkbiggestfan

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    She almost has all the senior French men and women at the moment: Brian Joubert, Florent Amodio, Chafik Besseghier, Yretha Silete, Mae-Berenice Meite, Lena Marrocco?, Lenaelle Gilleron-Gory. She also coaches with Claude Peri, but it is very weird to see all these skaters in Paris at the same training center.
  15. Zemgirl

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    I thought Chafik trained in Grenoble and Romain Ponsart was in Paris? Or is that out of date?
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    First one who came to mind was Candice Didier who improved a lot once she went to her, IMO. Didn't realize she has that many skaters these days. Must make for a busy day at the rink!
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    Ponsart is with Annick Dumont. I believe that Chafik moved to Paris this year. There has been a lot of changes lately and there will obviously be more changes in the near future since Brian and Florent's coaching situation is subject to change. Didier Gaillaguet pressured a lot of skaters to change coaches.
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    I must admit that's what I was wondering, if Didier forced him to go to a French coach. Although I certainly agree that getting away from Morozov was an excellent idea, as poor Florent's programs this year were just horrid.
  19. LynnW

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    Lambiel! :cheer: I agree with Zemgirl that Morozov made Florent unappealing. I think Lambiel should be a good influence on his skating.

    Yes, but even though it is not the optimal time to change coaches, at least he did. IMHO, better late than never.
  20. DaiKozOda

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    Good luck to Florent in this new phase of his career.
    I can't deny that it's kind of surprising that Amodio considered Yagudin as coach since he has no experience as lead coach and is extremely busy in Russia.
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    Are morozov and yagudin still close as to where morozov could convince yaguidn not to become a coach of amodio?!?
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    Not a French expert by any means, but the article linked earlier didn't mention any convincing, just that Morozov ensured this didn't happen (I think faire capoter means to capsize, i.e. turn things upside down). There are plenty of ways to do that without contacting the other coach.
  23. Hanna

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    I barely read the thread but my reaction to the title only: :cheer: :cheer2: :cheer: FINALLY!
  24. caseyedwards

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    True- they could stuff out there generally. This couldn't be worse though in timing and everything! He bombed at worlds in march! It's July almost august! What a delay!
  25. unicorn

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    I don't think Amodio was thinking ask Yagudin as a full time coach. Yagudin is not interested in coaching right now either. It's more like if he has Morozov as a coach, he also wanted to get some help from Yagudin. I think it's good it didn't work, the guy is dangerous, he can charm people. lol
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    Hmm, I must be reading the wrong article because I don't see Yagudin's name mentioned anywhere in the material Sylvia linked here. I would be very surprised to know Yagudin even considered being a primary coach for an elite skater like Amodio. Never heard Yagudin mention any coach he would have assisted in recent years other than Morozov and he just sporadically helped some of Morozov's students improve their technique on the jumps.
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    Yagudin or Morozov?? Or both? :D
  28. Nours

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    The most hilarious thing in this article is : (short version) "Amodio is aiming for Olys bronze at least". What a "journalist".
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    Oops, forgot Morozov is dangerous too, :lol: I was thinking about Yagudin
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    It was in the article when it was first posted, it must be been edited to remove it since then.
  31. ChelleC

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    Such good news!!!! His programs have been horrible the last two seasons. Looking forward to watching his freeskate this year.

    Florent is Free!!!!!!!!!!!!
  32. allezfred

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    It's about 2 years too late. :slinkaway
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  33. skatesindreams

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    The change can only be an improvement!
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    I really really wish this had been last off-season instead, but still :cheer2:
  35. JasperBoy

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    Thank god he has changed coaches. Now I will be able to watch him skate without cringing, and watch him in the K&C without barfing.
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  36. made_in_canada

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    My reaction too!! Better late than never.
  37. sus2850

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    In the article it says, he (Florent) aims for a place on the podium in Sochi. So it is an indirect quote. This is simple reporting and no commentary piece, so no need to be angry with the journalist, if Florent says a medal might be a possibility. The article did mention that Florent was only twelfth at worlds. (I read the version linking from the main page of L'Equipe that still has the bits about Yagudin in it.)
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  39. lily

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    Looks like "chemistry" between them didn't work any more... I'm happy that maybe now Amodio gets normal programs. Last 2 years they were more than awful. But IMHO Morozov wasn't only bad for him. With him he got stamina, self-confidence and rose from a promising boy to a big name and medal-contender. Not sure how things will work out with a new coach... When I watch Adam Rippon who changed coaches from Morozov, Orser to...etc he didn't get any better.
  40. Nours

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    I'm not angry at the journalist simply because there's no in this newspaper (anyway there's almost no journalist left in France). And when I read it, it was writed "Florent vise la m├ędaille de bronze au minimum" which shows how delirious the person is / try to please a french crowd who doesn't care at all for skating while giving high hopes to the few who are interested in but don't know the sport very well. Both option showing I'm right in my first sentence.
    Anyway, we'll soon be cleared of Amodio as he doesn't plan to compete after next year.